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Blazinghand
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KelsierSC
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Blazinghand
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 10 2014 00:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Alternatively we can lynch him for playing like mafia. As in the majority of his filter is filler and he's basically avoided giving his opinion on almost anything at all, IE he's avoiding stepping on any toes. I get that you're trying to analyze his actions, but if he doesn't take any actions at all there's not going to be a whole lot to analyze. On October 10 2014 01:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cool, a bunch of unexplained obvious townreads and a scumread that he never bothered to follow up on or pressure at any point. Theres so much more than this too. If you said my reasons are good then by extension obi's are too. I don't thiiink I'd even written anything about hopeless at that point either. You're scum reading obi further for not explaining his town read on me when he did and it actually makes sense (town reading him when he was under pressure etc) instead of jumping further on me whereas when hopeless exhibits all of these traits with far scummier motives you ignore him because of obi who IS actually explaining | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:32 Blazinghand wrote: fwiw literally 95%+ of what HF has said today is scummy since he's trying to shut down all kinds of reasonable discourse or alternative wagons by calling people scum for not voting along with him, rather than writing a real case or exploring reads. Fuck off have i not written a case. I literally just copied everything to condense it too | ||
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Hopeless1der
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:34 Holyflare wrote: Fuck off have i not written a case. I literally just copied everything to condense it too Yeah, there's the 5%. You can't deny that you have mostly spent today threatening people instead of being good and useful. When I lead town, I question people and help them develop reads (if they're town) or reveal their false mindsets (if they're scum). What the dicks do you think you're doing, telling people they're scum (even jokingly) to bully them onto the wagon, instead of fostering an environment that generates evidence? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:37 Hopeless1der wrote: Half of your "case" is redcheck nonsense, can you blame BH for being semi-illiterate? I like this emphasis better. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
unless obi literally thinks he called me scum so he is scum. Oh edit he called me town so now he is town | ||
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KelsierSC
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he asked people "thought on hopeless" then attacked him after votes if he has sucha. Great read why not go at him.straight away | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17324 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:14 KelsierSC wrote: Sorry I'm posting from a phone This isn't that hard... I post images from my phone | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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On October 11 2014 05:37 Hopeless1der wrote: Half of your case is "redcheck" nonsense, can you blame BH for being semi-illiterate? Absolutely 0 of my case is this red check nonsense. Please show where i said that. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:42 Holyflare wrote: Absolutely 0 of my case is this red check nonsense. Please show where i said that. wat | ||
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Holyflare
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:30 Blazinghand wrote: These are normal observations. Of course self-voting is weird. There's nothing wrong with looking at OO for non RNG stuff. And given that OO actually flipped town, I don't see how Damdred being all suspicious of the guy who flipped scum is an issue. The issue is that he took so long to vote OO, not that he was suspiciopus of OO. get your shit together H1 OWS is literally wrong here. OO _did_ get lynched. PEople could say "OO wasn't gonna get lynched or whatever" but basically it came down to this: OO got voted, and then he reacted with stuff. Hell, even if you agree with OWS (who, by the way, is scum) then you STILL have to show that damdred agrees with OWS, or that disagreeing is so unreasonable you must be scum. The fact that you personally believe that OO's reaction is null (and it obviously wasn't null, OO was scum and got caught, and part of why he got caught was his scummy reaction) doesn't matter. Self voting because RNG landed on you isnt a weird response. Attempting to call you (BH) scum because the RNG landed on OO would be a weird response. Attempting to call you (BH) scum because you USED RNG is slightly better but not really. In any case, the reasons for calling OO scum should have nothing to do with his response to being RNGed. Damdred pulls up super early to cast suspicion without committing to it for dubious reasoning. Being suspicious of anyone is fine if its for the right reasons. Damdred doesnt have the right reasons to call someone scum here. OWS may have ultimately been wrong, but at the time that was a reasonable thought process because RNG is not sufficient to lynch someone. OO was scummy outside of the RNG, his reaction to the RNG is in fact null. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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Grackaroni
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I don't like that Damdred never made an effort to try to get Lian lynched today. When I write out a case on somebody I'm doing it because I want to try to convince people to lynch him today rather than just to show that I am suspicious of somebody. It's not like HF wrote out an amazing case and the lynch was decided for the day. I could see Damdred as scum choose to not push Lian today because he doesn't want to get on HF's bad side. The points I dislike: The bussing posts. It's mostly just speculation. I could reasonably see a townie being suspicious of somebody for voting themselves after being RNGed and for his reaction. (I wasn't suspicious of OO for those posts but I could see someone else suspecting him) the post where he tries to get OO to contribute doesn't have to be made in thread; He could just tell him to do something in the scum QT if he is mafia. There's no real reason why Damdred's vote on OO is him bussing OO compared to anyone else's vote on OO. In fact your vote is the one i think is most likely to be a bus vote because you actually liked OO's tone at the start of the game and you were fighting policy lynches earlier in the day. The BH points are quite bad in my opinion. it's pretty clear Damdred wasn't trying to make a suspicion of BH in that post and I don't mind the insufferable post either. Overall I'm not convinced that Damdred is a better lynch than you. I think a better case could be made for you being scum. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13911 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:44 Holyflare wrote: If anyone wants to lynch not hopeless you have to absolutely prove to me why he is not mafia. I don't want to hear something like "because of obi". what about "because of liam" | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Potentially feasible but I'd rather you did something else | ||
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