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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 10 2014 21:25 GMT
#1981
On October 11 2014 06:23 Grackaroni wrote:
Which all kind of ties back to Slam's post about how we really don't know how to scum hunt and we just attack people for "not being useful", which he's probably right about.


I'd actually be okay with policy lynching the least contributive person a lot of the time. I feel like it would... feel good? even if it didn't make us win. but this is a discussion for post game. today I think OWS is where it's at.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 10 2014 21:27 GMT
#1982
On October 11 2014 05:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 05:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
Half of your case is "redcheck" nonsense, can you blame BH for being semi-illiterate?


Absolutely 0 of my case is this red check nonsense. Please show where i said that.



Como?


On October 11 2014 02:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 02:52 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 11 2014 02:47 Holyflare wrote:
Still lynching hopeless btw

[image loading]

You do that


Are you disagreeing with my

[image loading]?


U kno u been pooshin dis
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 10 2014 21:28 GMT
#1983
Speaking of slam… at the start of the game he makes reasonable posts and looks like he's trying to solve the game so everybody town reads him. Later he does nothing but post gifs and starts telling people to call him scummy? Then he makes a bunch of posts about how he's flying under the radar? After that he tells everybody that we don't know how to scum hunt?

Perhaps he may be trying to tell us something...
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 10 2014 21:29 GMT
#1984
I actually have no ability to read slam, and so I don't bother
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 21:30 GMT
#1985
On October 11 2014 06:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Speaking of slam… at the start of the game he makes reasonable posts and looks like he's trying to solve the game so everybody town reads him. Later he does nothing but post gifs and starts telling people to call him scummy? Then he makes a bunch of posts about how he's flying under the radar? After that he tells everybody that we don't know how to scum hunt?

Perhaps he may be trying to tell us something...

He's trying to Chupazi rule you. But you Hijoled him so he can't Kussplain himself sson.

or sometihng like that..
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 10 2014 21:30 GMT
#1986
I have absolutely no idea how to read him either but it actually looks like he may be mafia and wants us to catch him or something.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 10 2014 21:32 GMT
#1987
On October 11 2014 06:30 Grackaroni wrote:
I have absolutely no idea how to read him either but it actually looks like he may be mafia and wants us to catch him or something.


I could see that, I guess, but I won't pretend to understand his motivations. I'm sure you have plans for your bullet tonight, but how would you feel about shooting Slam? I feel like inevitably we'll have to lynch him anyways.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 10 2014 21:33 GMT
#1988
On October 11 2014 06:21 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
On October 10 2014 00:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:52 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:31 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:22 StorrZerg wrote:
what do you guys think of liancourt's reaction when dealing with HF, claiming vig/cop.



Unimportant.


fantastic coming from the person who got bored and wanted to talk about something yesterday.

If you want to change the subject thats fine

[] talk about liancourt
[] talk about hopeless
[] other [insert topic]


I'm pretty focused on this hopeless lynch.

And I don't think I'm going to change my mind.


then lets talk about hopeless..... i mean your around, your responding, help drive the conversation.

liancourt, avoided talking about hopeless day 1.
hopeless thought on Iian day 1, "Would #lynchwithfire"

yet dives on

On October 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 08 2014 01:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'd like everyone to bear in mind that I've presented a reason to lynch OO that is imo valid entirely independent of the fact that I RNGed him. Yes, I did RNG him so I was going to write a case on him anyways, but bear in mind that that doesn't change the facts, and the facts are: OO isn't playing this game.

yeah i'll probably end up here anyways

##Vote: ObviousOne


at this point OO was an afk person that sure was "scummy" yet afk.

i'd also say hopeless doesn't really add anything to the case on Iian, more so just agrees with my reasoning and "bad list post" yet has far more posts directed to Iian, questioning him, and calling him scum yet we come to this.


On October 09 2014 11:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 09 2014 11:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Hope why did you end up voting OO? You originally liked his tone and you were complaining about it being a policy lynch for a while.

because RNGesus told me to. No wait that was Blazinghand. same difference.

In all seriousness, it seemed inevitable and I wasnt interested in pushing damdred or lian over OO, especially since OO came in long enough to give us something and never return. I was willing to switch around up until I asked where the hell did he go?


Says he "wasn't interested" I think this is a contradiction to his actions, he was very interested in pushing liam, and his reason to vote OO was just "ill end up here"



Alternatively we can lynch him for playing like mafia.

As in the majority of his filter is filler and he's basically avoided giving his opinion on almost anything at all, IE he's avoiding stepping on any toes.

I get that you're trying to analyze his actions, but if he doesn't take any actions at all there's not going to be a whole lot to analyze.


On October 10 2014 01:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 10 2014 00:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
that's not contradictory thats called being lazy. Would you have felt better if I afk'd my vote on Lian?

right now yes, still reading lian scum. haven't reread anything yet, at work. I'll try to give updated thoughts this evening.

My never-lynch list is HF BH grack palmar bats. aside from that I dont have much right now.


Cool, a bunch of unexplained obvious townreads and a scumread that he never bothered to follow up on or pressure at any point.


Theres so much more than this too. If you said my reasons are good then by extension obi's are too. I don't thiiink I'd even written anything about hopeless at that point either.

You're scum reading obi further for not explaining his town read on me when he did and it actually makes sense (town reading him when he was under pressure etc) instead of jumping further on me whereas when hopeless exhibits all of these traits with far scummier motives you ignore him because of obi who IS actually explaining

I don't think these are very good reasons for scum reading Hopeless. These posts are a much more apt description of Palmar's play really.


This isn't the reasons I'm giving for hopeless this is that obi did give reasons but kelsier is saying he isn't.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 21:33 GMT
#1989
On October 11 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 06:30 Grackaroni wrote:
I have absolutely no idea how to read him either but it actually looks like he may be mafia and wants us to catch him or something.


I could see that, I guess, but I won't pretend to understand his motivations. I'm sure you have plans for your bullet tonight, but how would you feel about shooting Slam? I feel like inevitably we'll have to lynch him anyways.

tbh I'm hoping hes a poisoner target, assuming there is one.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 21:34 GMT
#1990
yes, but why batsnacks?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 10 2014 21:35 GMT
#1991
HF do you feel like BH has tried to discredit you recently?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 21:36 GMT
#1992
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 10 2014 21:36 GMT
#1993
On October 11 2014 06:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
yes, but why batsnacks?


wait why what?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 10 2014 21:37 GMT
#1994
On October 11 2014 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 06:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 11 2014 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
On October 10 2014 00:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:52 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:31 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:22 StorrZerg wrote:
what do you guys think of liancourt's reaction when dealing with HF, claiming vig/cop.



Unimportant.


fantastic coming from the person who got bored and wanted to talk about something yesterday.

If you want to change the subject thats fine

[] talk about liancourt
[] talk about hopeless
[] other [insert topic]


I'm pretty focused on this hopeless lynch.

And I don't think I'm going to change my mind.


then lets talk about hopeless..... i mean your around, your responding, help drive the conversation.

liancourt, avoided talking about hopeless day 1.
hopeless thought on Iian day 1, "Would #lynchwithfire"

yet dives on

On October 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 08 2014 01:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'd like everyone to bear in mind that I've presented a reason to lynch OO that is imo valid entirely independent of the fact that I RNGed him. Yes, I did RNG him so I was going to write a case on him anyways, but bear in mind that that doesn't change the facts, and the facts are: OO isn't playing this game.

yeah i'll probably end up here anyways

##Vote: ObviousOne


at this point OO was an afk person that sure was "scummy" yet afk.

i'd also say hopeless doesn't really add anything to the case on Iian, more so just agrees with my reasoning and "bad list post" yet has far more posts directed to Iian, questioning him, and calling him scum yet we come to this.


On October 09 2014 11:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 09 2014 11:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Hope why did you end up voting OO? You originally liked his tone and you were complaining about it being a policy lynch for a while.

because RNGesus told me to. No wait that was Blazinghand. same difference.

In all seriousness, it seemed inevitable and I wasnt interested in pushing damdred or lian over OO, especially since OO came in long enough to give us something and never return. I was willing to switch around up until I asked where the hell did he go?


Says he "wasn't interested" I think this is a contradiction to his actions, he was very interested in pushing liam, and his reason to vote OO was just "ill end up here"



Alternatively we can lynch him for playing like mafia.

As in the majority of his filter is filler and he's basically avoided giving his opinion on almost anything at all, IE he's avoiding stepping on any toes.

I get that you're trying to analyze his actions, but if he doesn't take any actions at all there's not going to be a whole lot to analyze.


On October 10 2014 01:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 10 2014 00:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
that's not contradictory thats called being lazy. Would you have felt better if I afk'd my vote on Lian?

right now yes, still reading lian scum. haven't reread anything yet, at work. I'll try to give updated thoughts this evening.

My never-lynch list is HF BH grack palmar bats. aside from that I dont have much right now.


Cool, a bunch of unexplained obvious townreads and a scumread that he never bothered to follow up on or pressure at any point.


Theres so much more than this too. If you said my reasons are good then by extension obi's are too. I don't thiiink I'd even written anything about hopeless at that point either.

You're scum reading obi further for not explaining his town read on me when he did and it actually makes sense (town reading him when he was under pressure etc) instead of jumping further on me whereas when hopeless exhibits all of these traits with far scummier motives you ignore him because of obi who IS actually explaining

I don't think these are very good reasons for scum reading Hopeless. These posts are a much more apt description of Palmar's play really.


This isn't the reasons I'm giving for hopeless this is that obi did give reasons but kelsier is saying he isn't.

Yeah I know. You said Obi gave good reasons. KSC said Obi didn't give good reasons. I'll have to side with KSC on this one.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 10 2014 21:37 GMT
#1995
On October 11 2014 06:35 batsnacks wrote:
HF do you feel like BH has tried to discredit you recently?


HE BETTER, BECAUSE I HAVE. HIS LEADERSHIP STYLE IS BAD AND HE SHOULD FEEL BAD.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
October 10 2014 21:38 GMT
#1996
damd could be a better lynch.
both my scum targets want him dead, if he flips town they both look worse. if he flips scum, then that means i probably am reading 2 townies wrong.


regarding hopeless, case woot nice job. this makes me consider damd as a possibility.
liam makes me not want to consider damd because his inability to make a case on damd. (his original insight struck a cord, and i wanted to know more, as well as see what he would do if he pressured damd more, instead i was meet with "why don't you make more reads storr" / "i can't read someone who is just scum reading me with no other reads" )

which also brings me to HF, and his badgering.
i don't like the phrasing "perfect defense". / yet i can agree that damd did well on his defense.

I still think the major point on obi back peddling and trying to force it off "oo" near the end isn't valid at all. That is surely at the point where "oo" is saying to his scum buddies sack me good long and hard. So i don't see it as a possibility for scum obi to make those remarks.

So this still brings me back to liam who i have been "tunneling" for a while now, and pushing him. With plenty of people saying "yes he scummy" yet unwilling to push him more. and hopeless, who i think is scum regarding his interactions with the "oo" lynch. I find his timing, far more indicative of scum behavior before "oo" has told his team he doesn't care and is giving up.
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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 10 2014 21:38 GMT
#1997
On October 11 2014 06:37 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 06:35 batsnacks wrote:
HF do you feel like BH has tried to discredit you recently?


HE BETTER, BECAUSE I HAVE. HIS LEADERSHIP STYLE IS BAD AND HE SHOULD FEEL BAD.


Do you feel that your leadership style was better?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 10 2014 21:40 GMT
#1998
On October 11 2014 06:38 StorrZerg wrote:
damd could be a better lynch.
both my scum targets want him dead, if he flips town they both look worse. if he flips scum, then that means i probably am reading 2 townies wrong.


regarding hopeless, case woot nice job. this makes me consider damd as a possibility.
liam makes me not want to consider damd because his inability to make a case on damd. (his original insight struck a cord, and i wanted to know more, as well as see what he would do if he pressured damd more, instead i was meet with "why don't you make more reads storr" / "i can't read someone who is just scum reading me with no other reads" )

which also brings me to HF, and his badgering.
i don't like the phrasing "perfect defense". / yet i can agree that damd did well on his defense.

I still think the major point on obi back peddling and trying to force it off "oo" near the end isn't valid at all. That is surely at the point where "oo" is saying to his scum buddies sack me good long and hard. So i don't see it as a possibility for scum obi to make those remarks.

So this still brings me back to liam who i have been "tunneling" for a while now, and pushing him. With plenty of people saying "yes he scummy" yet unwilling to push him more. and hopeless, who i think is scum regarding his interactions with the "oo" lynch. I find his timing, far more indicative of scum behavior before "oo" has told his team he doesn't care and is giving up.

It's mostly just BH saying this and we're never going to convince him that backtrack wasn't scummy and he's town so there's not much that can be done about that.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 21:40 GMT
#1999
On October 11 2014 06:36 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 06:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
yes, but why batsnacks?


wait why what?

You ninjavoted me more or less.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 10 2014 21:40 GMT
#2000
On October 11 2014 06:38 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 06:37 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 06:35 batsnacks wrote:
HF do you feel like BH has tried to discredit you recently?


HE BETTER, BECAUSE I HAVE. HIS LEADERSHIP STYLE IS BAD AND HE SHOULD FEEL BAD.


Do you feel that your leadership style was better?


take a look at my filter batsnacks, and look at where I talk to people and get them to develop reads and give stance and all kinds of things like that today. contrast just yelling at people and saying they're scum if they don't vote with hf. do you even need to ask the question? I'm the hero this thread needs
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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