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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 10 2014 19:48 GMT
#1901
On October 11 2014 04:40 Blazinghand wrote:
I am kinda amazed that I can't get a lynch going on OWS. It's basically my fault for not playing this right, not appealing to what people think is scumtells, instead using my own logic. My goal isn't to convince myself, it's to convince you guys now.

In any case, I'm back and will read the damdred case, and see what the deal is. Let me know if you guys need anything from me.

no i think he is scum

don't buy that reason, i think the points against you were good obi and so because hf reads you town he is now your town beyond question instead of top mafia.

so outlining my case one last time.

a) omgus on hf excessively.
b)tried to get a switch off oo but retracts immediately
c) says the lynch is outside oo but then his entry to d2 is lynch hope/lian both voted oo
d) after someone votes hope he asks "what are peoples thoughts" then only after 2 people vote he then says yeh lets get hope and attacks him.
e) one of the people voting hope is his top scum and the person he voted i hf, he doesn't even bother to question this or be suspect of hf after his claims.
f) his reasons for hope being scum.are ridiculous. He asked hf to explain a read and hope didn't stop the hf obi fight. Why is this scummy!

too many acum actions i cant lynch someone he goes after.

##vote obiwan

Zerg for Life
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 10 2014 19:49 GMT
#1902
On October 10 2014 21:26 Holyflare wrote:
Like anyone not lynching hopeless after reading his filter or his actions the past day and night needs to go do that and then stop giving excuses about other scum reads and join this wagon.

Think about hopeless' reaction to me in the last game where i lynched him "fuck you guys modkill hf for vote count, u bad" then look at this game where I'm his never lynch list


On October 11 2014 00:50 Holyflare wrote:
All you've done is stick to damd/liam being scummy and then thrown out these free town reads conveniently and you still call them scummy before even reading everyone else.


On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them

ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 10 2014 19:50 GMT
#1903
So I'm just assuming that everyone ignoring the points I made against Hopeless at day start are mafia from here on out.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 10 2014 19:52 GMT
#1904
Also, HF's points are good.

Mine are better though. Because obviously.
Retired.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 10 2014 19:52 GMT
#1905
On October 11 2014 04:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
So I'm just assuming that everyone ignoring the points I made against Hopeless at day start are mafia from here on out.

you didn't make a single good point
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 10 2014 19:52 GMT
#1906
On October 11 2014 04:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also, HF's points are good.

Mine are better though. Because obviously.


hf makes good points

but you didn't that is key
Zerg for Life
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 10 2014 19:53 GMT
#1907
Okay, I'm just going to have you lynched when Hopeless flips scum.

Nobody is that dense. Nobody.
Retired.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 10 2014 19:56 GMT
#1908
On October 11 2014 04:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Okay, I'm just going to have you lynched when Hopeless flips scum.

Nobody is that dense. Nobody.


again your not.even defending yourself you are just dodging by points

Zerg for Life
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 10 2014 19:57 GMT
#1909
On October 10 2014 15:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 11:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
i am entirely too drunk/tired to finish this right now. I stand by damdred>lian. will read kelsier storr and slam (I probably wont read slam, lets be honest here) in the morning and then try to get someone who's not me lynched. Probably damdred.


We're still 1000% lynching this guy, this is the 3rd promise of more reads into afking. Also free town read on obi.

On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them

I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game?

This post Mod 12, storr is 0


Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed.

And my red check


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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 10 2014 20:01 GMT
#1910
OWS has made noises that sound townie, but when push came to shove he tried to save OO. You can't possibly say that's townie. Hell, his backtrack was scummy as heck anyways

>:|

you guys just gotta see, OWS is scum. point me at a post that you think makes him townie or a series of posts, link or quote it, and i'll show you why that's not true
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 20:02 GMT
#1911
Which of my townreads don't make sense? Someone said their "obvious but unexplained".
On October 10 2014 01:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 00:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
that's not contradictory thats called being lazy. Would you have felt better if I afk'd my vote on Lian?

right now yes, still reading lian scum. haven't reread anything yet, at work. I'll try to give updated thoughts this evening.

My never-lynch list is HF BH grack palmar bats. aside from that I dont have much right now.


Cool, a bunch of unexplained obvious townreads and a scumread that he never bothered to follow up on or pressure at any point.


Yeah there...sure enough its tunnel rat obiwan. Obvious implies it doesnt need explaining.

Which of my townreads is not obvious?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 10 2014 20:03 GMT
#1912
Dude bh you're trying to push a counter wagon off of scum. You're doing the exact thing you're scum reading obi for. Are you now mafia?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 20:04 GMT
#1913
On October 11 2014 05:01 Blazinghand wrote:
OWS has made noises that sound townie, but when push came to shove he tried to save OO. You can't possibly say that's townie. Hell, his backtrack was scummy as heck anyways

>:|

you guys just gotta see, OWS is scum. point me at a post that you think makes him townie or a series of posts, link or quote it, and i'll show you why that's not true

The way he tunneled my felt townie, but that probably isnt what you're looking for.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 20:04 GMT
#1914
On October 11 2014 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
Dude bh you're trying to push a counter wagon off of scum. You're doing the exact thing you're scum reading obi for. Are you now mafia?

No.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 10 2014 20:05 GMT
#1915
On October 11 2014 05:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
Dude bh you're trying to push a counter wagon off of scum. You're doing the exact thing you're scum reading obi for. Are you now mafia?

No.


Wonderful of you. You've made no new comment on damd after his perfect towny defence btw. Going to stick to that one read then?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 20:07 GMT
#1916
On October 11 2014 05:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 05:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
Dude bh you're trying to push a counter wagon off of scum. You're doing the exact thing you're scum reading obi for. Are you now mafia?

No.


Wonderful of you. You've made no new comment on damd after his perfect towny defence btw. Going to stick to that one read then?

Yes I'm sticking to my read and hoping the people who havent arbitrarily decided I'm scum no matter what actually read my case instead of looking at who posted it and going "lol scum."
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 10 2014 20:08 GMT
#1917
Point is obi hasn't made a single good point on hope
he just prodded to see if he could get a wagon going and then just posted a lot of noise and drivel.

Zerg for Life
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 10 2014 20:08 GMT
#1918
hopeless is not even looking at anything i posted he just picked out a few things and tried to pain them scummy.

BH any reactions yet
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 10 2014 20:09 GMT
#1919
I read it, i didn't like it at all. Half of the things you scum read him for don't make him scum because i thought similar things. He also PERFECTLY defended everything you said. Literally PERFECTLY. You still scum read after that defence makes it even worse for you. The towniest thing you can do is drop it and find someone new.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9855 Posts
October 10 2014 20:09 GMT
#1920
I'll read your case and comment in a bit Hopeless
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