Devil's Riddle Mafia

On September 22 2014 17:24 HaruRH wrote:


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/HaruHaruRH

Go wild.

On September 22 2014 17:12 HaruRH wrote:


Those are money milking shows lol.
You will literally never see anyone remembering how good those shows were.
For example, the better mecha animes would be evangelion, RaXephon, gundam series (they have alternate series for kids and adults, like gundam 00 was for adults whereas gundam age is for kids) while the money milking mecha animes would be crap like.... i don't even remember them.

On September 22 2014 17:11 DarthPunk wrote:


Only watched Steins Gate and Clannad out of all those you mentioned so I have trouble forming a point of reference for your argument.

Anyone Watched Mirai Nikki? That is about High Schoolers but is CERTAINLY not for kids.

On September 23 2014 08:01 The_Templar wrote:

yes I am actually reading up on the theme, I want to understand what the hell is going on unlike a fire upon the deep.

On September 23 2014 08:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
alright i think i can handle this one...

/in

On September 23 2014 08:14 HaruRH wrote:


Opps, it starts in 23 hours, not 11.

On September 23 2014 08:36 HaruRH wrote:


But I'm getting up at 6am just to host this for you americans

On September 23 2014 08:52 HaruRH wrote:


AMERICA MAY BE FREE BUT YOU DONT HAVE LOL WORLDS CHAMPIONSHIP HAHAHAHAHA
+ Show Spoiler +
.... i need a life.

On September 23 2014 09:28 Blazinghand wrote:
Aldnoah.Zero is actually an excellent anime, even though it drags a little bit in the middle. Mecha anime are typically awful, and by virtue of not being awful, Aldnoah.Zero is excellent. If you imagine it as being a better version of what SEED was supposed to be (an homage to original gundam), it fills the role REALLY well. It has a very similar plot but everything feels better, the stakes feel higher, the MC isn't a whiny bitch, he isn't even a shouting overconfident dude. It's... amazingly not-bad.

On September 23 2014 14:28 Blazinghand wrote:
You can see why PTSD-San would be a better MC! But nonetheless it's a fine anime. Good fight scenes. Good sense of scale.

On September 24 2014 01:58 HaruRH wrote:


HAHAHA hapa's /in was buried and i didnt notice it.

On September 24 2014 07:15 Grackaroni wrote:
I got Kushm4sta. It might just be in order of sign ups.

On September 24 2014 07:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
Should neutrals claim?

On September 24 2014 07:29 Chairman Ray wrote:


3rd party

On September 24 2014 07:28 Chairman Ray wrote:
Since a neutral wins regardless if town or mafia wins, is there any point to keeping them a secret?

On September 24 2014 07:32 Chairman Ray wrote:


Town doesn't want to lynch 3rd party, mafia doesn't want to kill third party, because it goes against both their win-cons. 3rd party just doesn't want to die. Everyone wins I think.

On September 24 2014 07:40 Grackaroni wrote:
I guess that narrows CR/VE out of the lynch pool for today.

On September 24 2014 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
Don't think there's anything I really need to do in this game, have fun guys!

On September 24 2014 07:53 Grackaroni wrote:

I can understand disagreeing with me but I don't quite understand why this is scummy? Are you implying that I was trying to protect a scum VE before he even posted?

On September 24 2014 07:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
CR is basically a mafia medic why arent we lynching him again? there hasnt been an easier d1 lynch in ages. im fine with you correctly pointing out grack's weird dismissal of VE but not with your vote.

On September 24 2014 08:07 DarthPunk wrote:


He is not town. Anyway talk it over chaps. I hope to have a lot to read when I get back.

On September 24 2014 10:33 yamato77 wrote:
so uh

hapa is mafia

go

On September 24 2014 10:35 VisceraEyes wrote:

I wanted to say this too but I call Hapa mafia like EVERY D1 I've ever played with him. But he REALLY didn't want people to think they can't lynch VE today, which really chaps my ass, because I really DO want people to think they can't lynch VE today.

On September 24 2014 10:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
So while I AM partnered with Chairman Ray, I'm NOT sure what I think about the Defender claim. Statistically it's more likely that he's town/3p I guess, but does the Defender just claim like that? Like, if he's not intending to save anyone tonight then what's the point of claiming? Was it just because of Damdred (or whoever) asking the third parties to claim that caused him to claim?

Think of it from a win-condition perspective. If he's really the Defender then PRESENTLY his win-condition is to survive til endgame. If he makes a save then his win-con changes to a TOWN win condition, but from what I see it looks like PRESENTLY his win-condition is to just survive til end-game. Why wouldn't mafia kill him in the night then? If he's able to interfere with their kills, then there's literally no reason NOT to put a bullet on him REGARDLESS of the fact that he's claimed third party. How about if he actually DOES make a save?

MMMEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHH.....I'm pretty sure I don't believe the claim. I'm not sure what I think this means with regard to his alignment, though I lean mafia. I'll give a definitive answer on that a little later (he's posted exactly once in the QT, so he at the very least knows where it's located.)

However it seems like he's claimed that he's done posting for the day. If that's the case then I'm all about lynching him.

On September 24 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:
Wwhat do you guys think of vayne atm

On September 24 2014 08:17 geript wrote:
Oh thank god. I'm not Vayne's partner. Unfortunately I got mystery meat so who knows how that will end up.

On September 24 2014 08:19 geript wrote:
I'm half tempted to flip CR to see if VE is confirmed town or not.

On September 24 2014 08:20 geript wrote:
Vayne seems like he cares about this game. That kinda makes me want to lynch him too.

On September 24 2014 09:13 geript wrote:
I'll claim 3P. That should give me a day to reach a 7 page filter :-P

On September 24 2014 09:24 geript wrote:

It's a joke. I assumed anyone who played BH's game would get it. Apparently not.

On September 24 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
CR-VE
Hapa-Abuse
Vayne--DP
Grack--Kush but Kush isn't on the sign up
Geript--MysteryMeat
Oats--Damdred

So here's where we're at.

On September 24 2014 11:45 geript wrote:

No sir. You are not going to call me scum Hapa. If you even think it one more time I will lynch the fuck out of you.

On September 24 2014 12:44 yamato77 wrote:
I don't see much I would deem particularly interesting in that filter, Hapa.

On September 24 2014 12:50 DarthPunk wrote:


And do you think Hapa knew that? Is there some obvious reason for not questioning you on that throw away read?

Cause if you called ME mafia I would be all up in your grill about why, especially if you provided zero reasoning, and I think Town!Hapa would want to know your thought process also, rather than just ignoring it which is essentially what he did.

What do you think of my hapa post?

On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:


How did you know that? What evidence was there that the read was not genuine?

On September 24 2014 13:00 DarthPunk wrote:


Correct there was no evidence. A townie would question Yamato for that. Hell the first thing I thought when I read that was "why?" but you just ignored it. That is scummy.

---

Vayne could very well be scum. He basically has a hard on for lynching the least threatening third party we could have in this game.

I mean, sure, I could lynch third party. But I would want to try and lynch mafia first.

On September 24 2014 13:07 DarthPunk wrote:



No i think your meta is to try and figure out why people do/say stuff and there is a distinct lack of that. I also think your geript case looks and feels contrived, none of your stated explanations for scum!geript are that convincing and yet you are confident in your read for a reason I can't fathom.

On September 24 2014 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:


Or I am amazing and you are scum :D

On September 24 2014 13:14 DarthPunk wrote:


I think you are scum.

On September 24 2014 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:

Geript's posts just feel really awkward to me so I guess I like Hapa's narrative. Not realizing he has a qt doesn't really help his case.

On September 24 2014 13:23 DarthPunk wrote:


I'm being productive. Why don't you try and convince me of geript being scum if you are so certain?

On September 24 2014 13:32 DarthPunk wrote:


I don't think you are scummy every time you are town at all. So that is bullshit.

Not engaging in a discourse is anti-town and if people read you as town from what you have contributed thus far well I would be appalled honestly.

What makes Geript more likely to be scum over a townie who didn't read his pm properly and was just talking shit at the start of the game?

On September 24 2014 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:


I think mafia are more likely to read the thread properly and less likely to shitpost like that.

On September 24 2014 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:


I think mafia are more likely to read the thread properly and less likely to shitpost like that.

On September 24 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
CR-VE
Hapa-Abuse
Vayne--DP
Grack--Kush but Kush isn't on the sign up
Geript--MysteryMeat
Oats--Damdred

So here's where we're at.

On September 24 2014 13:40 yamato77 wrote:
DP tryharding is adorable.

On September 24 2014 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:


Hmmmm. I guess that is a good point actually.

It shows that Geript is not invested in being actually productive. I'm still not sure that makes him mafia though.

On September 24 2014 13:45 DarthPunk wrote:


Sorry but this is garbage Yamato.

On September 24 2014 13:52 DarthPunk wrote:


Do mafia never make good points in their cases on townies? If that was the case this game would be really really easy.

On September 24 2014 13:58 DarthPunk wrote:


No. I think the way you are behaving in totality is scummy also, I just used that case as a focal point of some pressure because it felt so contrived, but conceded that the case made at least one reasonable point.

On September 24 2014 14:02 kushm4sta wrote:
3 person game right here.

On September 24 2014 14:04 DarthPunk wrote:


Or I will just keep it to myself until I have enough to lynch you with or change my mind.

On September 24 2014 14:11 kushm4sta wrote:


hapa what do you think of dp?

On September 24 2014 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
SO basically Hapa's case is:

"Look at what geript did and how awkward it sounds. That makes him scum, I am so certain of this that I think it is a lock solid day one scum lynch.

BUT I can't really make a good case on him beyond showing you what he has posted and calling it awkward."

Am I getting this right?

On September 24 2014 15:37 DarthPunk wrote:


Your point was in the context of my Assertions that he wasn't reading the thread. Seems like he is reading the thread/ read the thread from his explanations.

On September 24 2014 15:40 geript wrote:
It's kinda funny though, I think DP is town for all that bullshit. Like, I feel like when I've seen DP be mafia, his bullshit seems to have more of a purpose behind it.

On September 24 2014 15:41 DarthPunk wrote:


Don't see how I am being a dick to be honest.

On September 24 2014 15:48 geript wrote:
Either way Hapa, what did you want to know. Right now I'm kinda in the mood to check Grack, you, DP and Yam off of the lynch list and look at other people. That actually narrows down the field pretty heavily. I won't lie and say I'm not half tempted to lynch the fuck out of Abuse to see if he flips red though.

On September 24 2014 15:51 geript wrote:

Yah but of the vets other than VE, I think you're the most likely to flip mafia imo. So lynching an AFK actually gives us better information on who to shoot.

On September 24 2014 11:43 VisceraEyes wrote:

I get 'em bitch, I gave reasoning. You just quoted a post GET OFF ME!!!

On September 24 2014 11:45 VisceraEyes wrote:

I'm guessing Hapa's reasoning, I didn't say I thought you were scummy for it. I would absolutely LOVE for you to call me confirmed town for whatever reason you want!

On September 24 2014 16:29 VisceraEyes wrote:

What I find suspicious is that there wasn't any townie points for me to have Hapa! THERE WERE NO TOWNIE POINTS FOR ME TO WREST FROM YOU WILLFULLY!!!!

On September 24 2014 16:29 geript wrote:

? Huh. I don't get what you're referencing. Swear I'm going to sleep here soon.

On September 24 2014 16:22 Grackaroni wrote:
I think VEs just jealous he had to share the townie points

On September 24 2014 16:33 DarthPunk wrote:
He already explained himself hapa

On September 24 2014 16:35 DarthPunk wrote:


It makes sense to me.

yamato is probably town - standard 1-liner posts, general observations...I don't like that he's suspicious of me, but not everyone is as perfect as me.

Damdred and I seem to be on the same wavelength at least in terms of what we're looking for to find mafia - gonna throw him in the townpile for now and see how I like that.

MM1 gets 1 Townie Brownie for making a decent case on Kush before he entered the thread. If we lynch a lurker instead of a scumspect, I'm willing to go with Kush based on MM1's observation. Will not lynch MM1 today.

CR hasn't said anything more in our QT. He's claimed 3rd Party in the thread. There you go.

On September 24 2014 16:44 DarthPunk wrote:
When you mentioned the game (does anyone see what I see) VE tried to guess what it was you were talking about. He leaves, While he is gone you post a case on geript that doesn't really contain anything that would make sense in the (do you see what I see) game.

Therefore VE finds that suspicious and something that mafia would do.

You ask for clarification, he clarifies by saying there was no townie points to be had because the game you started was unsolvable due to it being, in VE's opinion, disingenuous or fraudulent.
Which is a position I can empathize with.

On September 24 2014 16:29 VisceraEyes wrote:

What I find suspicious is that there wasn't any townie points for me to have Hapa! THERE WERE NO TOWNIE POINTS FOR ME TO WREST FROM YOU WILLFULLY!!!!

On September 24 2014 16:57 DarthPunk wrote:


The tone is not alignment indicativeand it is consistent with other posts he made during the day.

On September 24 2014 17:00 geript wrote:
I get where you're coming from Hapa re: tone. It just feels really weird for you to make a good logical post re:VE calling Damfred town bros and on the same page as him to the tone read. Something that's definitely, IMO, not really quite in your wheelhouse and less odd from VE as either alignment.

On September 24 2014 17:05 geript wrote:

I can't really remember you doing them in any of the games I've played or read. I've always remembered you as logical and methodical.

I actually am pretty sure on my read on VE. I want to sleep on it though.

On September 24 2014 17:16 geript wrote:
Also fwiw Hapa, on the face it doesn't look good. But I've seen townies do something like that a bunch.

On September 24 2014 18:05 VisceraEyes wrote:

I'm not joking around either. There was no point to the post you made referencing "townie points", which means that you never found anything suspicious about geript. Your whole "case" on him is just listing out his posts and making generic statements about them, which I could literally do about anyone in the thread as either alignment and I know geript can too, and I have a sneaking suspicion that you know that too. So don't tell ME to explain myself Hapa. YOU explain YOURSELF. WHY were there no townie points to be had? Why did you say there was something specific about geript's posts that you noticed which you never really mention? Unless you're talking about the whole "disjointed from the thread" thing which I don't even see and looks completely made up.

On September 24 2014 18:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yamato will surely verify that I can and do read him confidently, early and well.

My read on Damdred is based on him noticing the same thing about geript that I did when you mentioned it.

My read on MM is based on exactly what I said it was.

On September 24 2014 11:57 MysteryMeat1 wrote:


If i had to make a case, it would be town kush would have posted already? I dont think ive been in a game where kush was mafia iirc

On September 24 2014 18:57 DarthPunk wrote:


Yeah VE is town.

On July 08 2014 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's essentially that he felt the need to come in here and be seen interacting with people in the thread, but didn't say a single thing that could even be construed as an opinion. Everyone else who was active early on has continued to show signs of life, but mderg just made a few throwaway posts and then peaced out.

##Vote: mderg

If anyone's got anything better I'm all ears, but I'm not interested in lynching any super active players at least this phase. It's counterproductive. Active players will eventually give you more to go on.

On September 15 2014 23:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't want to lynch rayn but I will if all my townies agree he's mafia.

But frankly I don't want to lynch one of the Rock Stars either, so I don't like disagree with rayn. Palmar gave a TONE read. Does he do that? When did he die and become Robik? What's going on here?

On April 27 2014 05:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like whatever you don't like my townread of Caller. Cool story bros.

##Unvote
##Vote: Caller

Maybe you're right. The remainder of my posts will be about other players. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

On April 03 2014 12:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
iamperfection is saying all the right things to all the right people. #toptownmvpyoloswag420blazeit

I'm town too, and we're going to wreck face. Get dominated scum.

On April 03 2014 12:22 VisceraEyes wrote:


It's suspicious because you could maybe be on a team with the person you're ignoring - or maybe trying to buddy them in some way. It's suspicious because it seems like you have information that the rest of us don't have, or at least I THINK that's what Killing is saying.

I think you're town as fuck.

On April 03 2014 12:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
iamp, JAT and VE. Killing town too, maybe Wave, maybe sandroba. Maybe not sandroba. I'll lynch any lurker, including myself. Any questions? No? Good, everyone GO.

On September 24 2014 23:28 Damdred wrote:
Also hapa, VE really was like this in the fanfic game, he gave out town passes like a pedophile gives out candy and he scum hunted from that. He was totes town that game, and hes acting pretty close to it.

On July 08 2014 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's essentially that he felt the need to come in here and be seen interacting with people in the thread, but didn't say a single thing that could even be construed as an opinion. Everyone else who was active early on has continued to show signs of life, but mderg just made a few throwaway posts and then peaced out.

##Vote: mderg

If anyone's got anything better I'm all ears, but I'm not interested in lynching any super active players at least this phase. It's counterproductive. Active players will eventually give you more to go on.

On September 15 2014 10:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
For the moment, I'm referring to everyone in the above conversation as the "Rock Stars" and they're all off limits for lynch today. Like all of them. Thank you for your understanding.

On September 25 2014 07:24 Damdred wrote:
Ok hapa who do you think is the most scummy today so far and why besides ve? (I also take offense to being called a low poster this game when I have a decent sized filter with no filler from pregame!)

CR-VE

Hapa-Abuse

On September 25 2014 03:40 abuse wrote:



You either share your gum with the entire class, or don't chew it in front of everybody.

Grack--Kush/rightinthefeels
Geript--MysteryMeat
Oats--Damdred
Prome--yam

On September 25 2014 07:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyone can see that my play has changed dramatically over the period of time between when those games you quoted were played and now.

But that's MUCH better Hapa. Much.

##Unvote

Like your posts yesterday calling me mafia didn't say anything like that. Yamato's posts on the matter had no detail and because I disagree that my townplay lacks confidence I took it as him just seeing something that isn't there. But you're right, my play HAS changed that much I guess. Anyway I'm town, and I'm willing to not lynch you today based on that case. It's far more put together and detailed than I was expecting given you responses last night.

On September 24 2014 11:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I actually dont like cr's play atm either. Hes roled mafia every game on tl, and complains everytime that he isnt town. I feel like he would be happier to play.

On September 24 2014 11:57 MysteryMeat1 wrote:


If i had to make a case, it would be town kush would have posted already? I dont think ive been in a game where kush was mafia iirc

On September 25 2014 03:38 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I don't really like VE, this game. Maybe his reads on me have changed since he found out my IRL identity, but i don't think he calls me town this early. My case on kush wasn't even serious when i posted it, and yet somehow i gained massive town points for it?

On September 25 2014 03:45 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I don't really like Hap, and i have no clue on DP. This is the first time i've ever played a game and probably the first time ive heard of him on TL

On September 24 2014 14:58 geript wrote:

This post feels a bit off to me. I don't think I've seen Hapa pressure someone for a reasonable play before then withdraw pressure so quickly. Idk, I just feel like as town he'd push grak a bit more to get a better read or until something more interesting came up.

On September 24 2014 15:14 geript wrote:


This specifically bugs me. I think town Hapa would point out that, regardless of alignment, I would get a QT. Hapa lumping that in the scum pile makes me think he's not actually concerned with thinking about the game critically.

On September 24 2014 15:28 geript wrote:

This post makes me really want to lynch the fuck out of Hapa. In my experience as mafia, it's far easier to create a believable narrative than it is to create a believable case. The fact that Hapa is pushing a narrative and using that specific quote as evidence feels exceptionally off. It's very weird of Hapa to let his "stonecold lock mafia read" be described as something as low as a "narrative." Maybe that's just semantics, but that's really odd.

On September 24 2014 15:31 geript wrote:

Boooh. Idk. I'll give Hapa more time. Still not a happy panda.

On September 24 2014 15:48 geript wrote:
Either way Hapa, what did you want to know. Right now I'm kinda in the mood to check Grack, you, DP and Yam off of the lynch list and look at other people. That actually narrows down the field pretty heavily. I won't lie and say I'm not half tempted to lynch the fuck out of Abuse to see if he flips red though.

On September 24 2014 16:02 geript wrote:

To some extent it's the reminder from Yam, that Hapa does like his early game tunnels. To some extent it's just thinking that I'll be able to read Hapa more objectively when he's not tunneling me. To some extent it's Hapa's direction after tunneling me. I think he's kinda townreading you and yam; which makes him look at VE more. But that's a bit concerning now that I think about it because of the CR claim. This isn't making me think of him more positively which is yet another reason why I want to lynch the AFK Abuse. But I don't tend to have a good history of reading people correctly when they're tunneled on me unless it's already pretty mid-late game.

On September 25 2014 08:16 geript wrote:
Hapa, how in the fuck do you have a townread on Abuse. I don't see any player even Marv having any realistic sensible read on Abuse. You've quite literally been shield him all fucking game long. Explain how in the fuck he's town or we definitely are lynching you.

On September 25 2014 03:26 geript wrote:
...

Prome feels towny but his initial post made me want to lynch him. MM1 looks slightly better from what he's posted in QT but not enough that I'm sold he's town yet. Abuse's entry make me happy to lynch him.
...

On September 25 2014 08:16 geript wrote:
Hapa, how in the fuck do you have a townread on Abuse. I don't see any player even Marv having any realistic sensible read on Abuse. You've quite literally been shield him all fucking game long. Explain how in the fuck he's town or we definitely are lynching you.

On September 25 2014 08:21 Damdred wrote:
Hapa how many games have you played with MM?

On September 25 2014 08:20 kushm4sta wrote:
so hapa, your case on mm1 is
he uses "i dont like" to call things scummy?

On September 25 2014 08:24 kushm4sta wrote:

I find posts like this really townie actually, because he is rapid fire giving off lots of scumhunting ideas that all make sense. Maybe he hasn't explained them but I'm sure he could.

On September 25 2014 08:26 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
So to clarify, the only two people that i didn't like where you and VE, and i gave you a better town read after your case on VE.

On September 25 2014 08:22 yamato77 wrote:
lol if hapa already nailed the scum team

just lol

On September 25 2014 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
I like you, Prom, and Damdred for town.

DP looks bad to me but he has yet to return so meh.

On September 25 2014 08:32 yamato77 wrote:
The holes I poked in his argument with you.

On September 25 2014 08:36 yamato77 wrote:
His mindset of "hapa is scum, and I'm going to spend all these posts calling him scum/arguing with him, but I won't lynch him d1" is just atrocious.


In particular.

On September 25 2014 08:40 kushm4sta wrote:
however i would counterpoint with
1 bare minimum rationale - easy not scummy
2 follows thread sentiment - giving opinions on thread sentiment isn't scummy. being disconnected i think is more scummy.

On September 25 2014 08:42 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
lets all ignore my postings...

On September 25 2014 08:36 geript wrote:

First off, my townread on MM1 isn't terribly strong. It's mostly based off of him posting things in the QT between when I was asleep and when I woke up that pretty heavily mirrored where I was at in general without me posting those thoughts anywhere.

On September 25 2014 03:38 abuse wrote:
I mean the way he posts mainly. Also, I don't doubt his push is serious, though I do not really agree with it, because I do not see hapa being scummy.

for me, right now, vayne is scummy.
I am not done with my analysis yet though.

geript - explain why my entry makes you happy to lynch me?
Seems a bit fake, considering even what you are saying about VE right now is complimenting what I said about him in my entry post.

Promethelax, are you honestly thinking that just asking about masons is enough to be painted as town? Do you really think that kush did not read the OP of the game he signed up for? If we assume he did, would you say that these words would most likely come from a scum kush or a townie kush?

On September 25 2014 08:52 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
oats/damdred, oats play soo far has reminded me of when we played together in cell, Also not a fan of damdred who makes the case with oats in the morning and doesn't seem to re-evaluate whats happened throughout the day.

On September 25 2014 09:06 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I've only played the cell game with oats, and in cell he barely contributed at all. He was not memorable and hasn't played differently than that game.

I think a few things have happened this game, and damdred has been keeping up on it. Oats also hasn't really said anything but calling geript and DP mafia. I don't think failing to change reads is a scumtell, i think newer information needs to be taken into account, and if it supports your reads or disagrees with your reads then it matters.

On September 25 2014 09:13 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Oats only called people mafia like once. While i've only played one game with oats, when he was mafia, i kind of forgot he was even in the game until later on.

Damdred hasn't taken anything into account, and i felt that he only posted his thoughts on DP in a way that he was trying to push a mislynch.

It also seems super scummy that both players would talk about why one person would be scum in a qt.

On September 25 2014 09:28 yamato77 wrote:
well hapa, geript gave you what you wanted

5 Abuse/Hapa. Abuse has done nothing and honestly is a decent policy lynch. Hapa's been very towny and very scummy. I really don't in any way understand his thought process behind relying so heavily on tone reads. Learning how to do it, fine. Putting it into practice fine. Doing so while not equally making good pushes against people for logical reasons that actually carry weight... very bad. If there's a mafia/mafia pair in the vets, this is most likely it.

On September 25 2014 09:59 geript wrote:
Yo Hapa, explain to me why you were so keen on Abuse not being shot or lynched as a test to your alignment?

On September 25 2014 10:13 geript wrote:
lol I do find it a bit funny that we're both kinda just ignoring Vayne right now.

On September 25 2014 12:53 geript wrote:

Look at Damdred specifically what I posted.

On September 25 2014 13:06 geript wrote:

I disagree. The odds of VE/CR being a mafia/mafia pair is reasonably low. We both agree on that. Where's the double mafia pair then Hapa?

On September 25 2014 13:19 geript wrote:

Then let's lynch Oats or Damdred. If VE flips town and if CR doesn't martyr, then town is in a really shitty position.

On September 25 2014 13:23 geript wrote:

Because then we're almost priced into lynching CR because he's likely poisoner or arsonist.

On September 25 2014 13:28 geript wrote:
CR has claimed 3p defender. If he does not martyr on N1 and VE flips town, then he is most likely the arsonist or poisoner. So if VE flips town, we almost have to autolynch him or shoot him to prevent him from being able to whittle down town for a joint victory with mafia.

On September 25 2014 13:41 geript wrote:
Idk, the CR situation probably applies regardless of who is lynched. I just wish that you made me feel all super town about you and that Oats or Damdred would make me think they're actually town.

On September 26 2014 03:23 VisceraEyes wrote:

I think I want to lynch my QT mate Chairman Ray. Like - I was giving him a pass because claim, but I've been like trying to exchange thoughts and ideas in our QT and there's just no reciprocation whatsoever. He's not playing the game in the QT, and he's not playing the game in the thread. He's not trying to with the game with town, frankly he's not trying to win the game as any alignment. I don't think he's playing like a third-party who turns into a town. So I want to lynch him because that's the role he's claimed.

Any questions?

##Vote: Chairman Ray

On September 26 2014 03:40 Promethelax wrote:
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I'd like to hear from hapa why he thinks Abuse seems townie since he should have the best insight.

On September 25 2014 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jesus I guess if I'm that scummy then where I'd look next are people who have townreads on me in spite of how I'm playing. Like, if I REALLY don't look town then people who are right about me might have too much information or something.

Fuck Hapa, couldn't you have just been scum?

On September 26 2014 04:57 Damdred wrote:
@Hapa

VEs lack of being present at this point in the day is worrying, or at least sticking around. After the VE flip where would you go if we lynched him? And what do you think of MM?

On September 26 2014 05:09 geript wrote:



Here's something to look at. Both Prome and I agreed on it.

On September 26 2014 03:09 Promethelax wrote:


Can people who have played with abuse before tell me if he is usually this wishy washy? This entire post is just an attempt to push the lynch away from himself and onto anywhere else it could stick without actually scum hunting or attempting to find the correct target.

DP and Vayne have been been garnering attention up to this point but abuse doesn't say that he thinks either one is scum. Instead he wants geript to call them scum and stop calling him/hapa scum.

If I had to pick a single post to lynch someone over I would call this the most lynch worthy post thus far in the game.

On September 26 2014 06:25 VisceraEyes wrote:

This is false. I read the thread, but I'm getting pissed about CR. He's literally not doing anything in the thread OR the QT. I was suspicious of him when he made the claim and now I'm REALLY suspicious. It's not a shit vote, maybe you can tell me why CR is town/3p instead of mafia?

On September 26 2014 06:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I have a better read on CR than anyone because I'm sharing a QT with him. And I'm saying I think he's mafia instead of 3p.

He's literally not doing anything in the thread OR the QT.

Like - I was giving him a pass because claim, but I've been like trying to exchange thoughts and ideas in our QT and there's just no reciprocation whatsoever. He's not playing the game in the QT, and he's not playing the game in the thread.

On September 26 2014 06:38 DarthPunk wrote:


Wasn't the case like complete basedd on meta and I found a game that didn;t comply with that meta. What IS hapa's case exactly?

Although VE, voting for CR after I negotiated with him is like the most WHAT THE FUCK?!?! thing ever.

On September 26 2014 06:50 DarthPunk wrote:


He is doing shit, when his lynch is basically inevitable. ALSO he is acting like town VE when people call him scum as town.

See: Hero Mini Mafia for mafia VE doing this exact thing.

On September 30 2014 06:07 Blazinghand wrote:
Well, I figure since I approved the balance and people are complaining, I should listen to what they have to say so I do a better job next time.

On September 29 2014 23:28 DarthPunk wrote:


No YOU think about your game critically for two seconds please.

There is no way in HELL this game was balanced for scum.

I think Town wins 95% of the time. Without question.

On September 24 2014 15:52 Grackaroni wrote:
I think I want to lynch Oatsmaster now.

Yamato/Prom (kind of liking Yamato as town he actually seemed interested in getting discussion started this game)
DP/Vayne (leaning town on both atm but I don't have much experience reading DP)
Grack/Kush (Kush is actually a strong town read for me for the same reason as DP)
Geript/MM1 (I think Geript has seemed really townie recently)
CR/VE (CR claimed 3rd party)
Hapa/abuse (Not as confident on hapa anymore but he's easy to read based on activity later in the game anyway)

On September 26 2014 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:


You mean this?

It seems like a pretty typical newbie post, no? Plus he's very consistently suspicious of Vayne in my conversations with him in the QT, so I think that post looks better to me. Perhaps unsatisfying to you guys, but w/e.

I really don't want to get into the mindset of forcing myself to defend abuse, because my reasons for not wanting to lynch him are more along the lines of "how could everyone see VE's vote on CR and not want to lynch him with fire?"

On September 30 2014 01:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah, I don't think I played poorly at all, Haru can suck a D. It's true that I died D1, but I took the cop with me and left town in SHAMBLES with my association play.

e: Like the only reason I was even caught was on outdated meta that everyone just happened to believe. Get outta here.