I wanted to say this too but I call Hapa mafia like EVERY D1 I've ever played with him. But he REALLY didn't want people to think they can't lynch VE today, which really chaps my ass, because I really DO want people to think they can't lynch VE today.

yamato77

11589 Posts

September 24 2014 01:36 GMT

#304

I love you VE

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 24 2014 01:37 GMT

#305

Yeah that was weird.
DP also weird, Im still not sure why he voted CR for mentioning 3p in the first place when that makes him more likely to be 3p but then unvotes him when he realises CR claimed.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

September 24 2014 01:37 GMT

#306

<3

What do you think about Chairman Ray's Defender claim?

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

September 24 2014 01:40 GMT

#307

I was actually leaning more townie on Hapa. I liked his explanation for voting me.

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

September 24 2014 01:45 GMT

#308

On September 24 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
CR-VE
Hapa-Abuse
Vayne--DP
Grack--Kush but Kush isn't on the sign up
Geript--MysteryMeat
Oats--Damdred

So here's where we're at.

Kush is rightinthefeels.
Which leaves Yamato/Prom paired together

Damdred

15669 Posts

September 24 2014 01:46 GMT

#309

Wwhat do you guys think of vayne atm

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

September 24 2014 01:56 GMT

#310

So while I AM partnered with Chairman Ray, I'm NOT sure what I think about the Defender claim. Statistically it's more likely that he's town/3p I guess, but does the Defender just claim like that? Like, if he's not intending to save anyone tonight then what's the point of claiming? Was it just because of Damdred (or whoever) asking the third parties to claim that caused him to claim?

Think of it from a win-condition perspective. If he's really the Defender then PRESENTLY his win-condition is to survive til endgame. If he makes a save then his win-con changes to a TOWN win condition, but from what I see it looks like PRESENTLY his win-condition is to just survive til end-game. Why wouldn't mafia kill him in the night then? If he's able to interfere with their kills, then there's literally no reason NOT to put a bullet on him REGARDLESS of the fact that he's claimed third party. How about if he actually DOES make a save?

MMMEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHH.....I'm pretty sure I don't believe the claim. I'm not sure what I think this means with regard to his alignment, though I lean mafia. I'll give a definitive answer on that a little later (he's posted exactly once in the QT, so he at the very least knows where it's located.)

However it seems like he's claimed that he's done posting for the day. If that's the case then I'm all about lynching him.

Damdred

15669 Posts

September 24 2014 01:58 GMT

#311

He claimed on his own and well before I even entered the thread. He brought up what third parties should do and claimed shortly afterwards.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

September 24 2014 02:04 GMT

#312

Okay yeah, I missed the order...so it was actually CR talking about whether thirds should claim first etc.

:/

That makes a little more sense then - he could be Defender. He didn't mention it in the QT though - it just seems to me like a real Defender would mention that in the QT BEFORE bringing it to the thread, but honestly that's just my own opinion and can see him thinking out-loud in the thread or whatever.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 24 2014 02:22 GMT

#313

On September 24 2014 10:33 yamato77 wrote:
so uh

hapa is mafia

go

No.

*pout*

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 24 2014 02:26 GMT

#314

On September 24 2014 10:35 VisceraEyes wrote:

Show nested quote +

Hey man, you make about 20 posts, I'll make a case on you, and it'll be all back to normal.

On September 24 2014 10:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
So while I AM partnered with Chairman Ray, I'm NOT sure what I think about the Defender claim. Statistically it's more likely that he's town/3p I guess, but does the Defender just claim like that? Like, if he's not intending to save anyone tonight then what's the point of claiming? Was it just because of Damdred (or whoever) asking the third parties to claim that caused him to claim?

Think of it from a win-condition perspective. If he's really the Defender then PRESENTLY his win-condition is to survive til endgame. If he makes a save then his win-con changes to a TOWN win condition, but from what I see it looks like PRESENTLY his win-condition is to just survive til end-game. Why wouldn't mafia kill him in the night then? If he's able to interfere with their kills, then there's literally no reason NOT to put a bullet on him REGARDLESS of the fact that he's claimed third party. How about if he actually DOES make a save?

MMMEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHH.....I'm pretty sure I don't believe the claim. I'm not sure what I think this means with regard to his alignment, though I lean mafia. I'll give a definitive answer on that a little later (he's posted exactly once in the QT, so he at the very least knows where it's located.)

However it seems like he's claimed that he's done posting for the day. If that's the case then I'm all about lynching him.

CR's claim is legit. I'm annoyed that it is, but it is.

While Oats is correct that a 3rd party might not counter-claim here, it's still risky for mafia to do. It's hard to claim something like this really early since there is a risk you'll be CC'd. You just can't predict what that 3rd party player will do.

So the timing makes it believable in my book. A later claim... probably not.

On September 24 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:
Wwhat do you guys think of vayne atm

Vayne is vayne. Slightly anal-retentive regarding CR, but that's normal for either alignment.