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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 09 2014 13:27 geript wrote: I think you missed 5. I forget it because I'm watching video mafia, but there was another weird thing in that post. Probably the fact that he said Koshi switched to Damdred instead of him which should be a towntell in case Sylencia is town (or null, but NOT scumtell). | ||
yamato77
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I wanted more than that, rayn | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Sylencia is mafia. You are losing this game if you do not lynch him. Go read his filter again. | ||
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geript
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yamato77
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meh not happy with rayn | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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let's see what you got. act like a town leader if you are one. if you are not then fucking sheep me. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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yamato i am really disappointed in you. You used to discuss shit with people. Now all you have to say is "lol" or bitch about people's play when you can't even get shit done because YOU DO NOT DO ANYTHING! Why can't you just play like you used to a half-a-year ago? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 07 2014 03:52 yamato77 wrote: rayn's voting patterns and reads make absolutely no sense that's not entirely unusual, but he's also too meek for town rayn basically he's just trying to get an easy mislynch and not really trying to find mafia at all Also elaborate on this post. Especially the red part. I voted for Sylencia who i have been calling scum the whole fucking game. Then i voted for Sloosh who i alsho have had a scumread on. Then i said gobble looks scummy (which he did before the claim). Then i voted for Sylencia again. Now, how the fuck does my voting patterns not make sense? | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
robik - thought scum, hesitant after so many people said scum geript - fuck you damdred - scum yamato77 - town sloosh - null, leaning scum oats - assuming scum since he voted on the guy harurh - town rayn - wishywashy scum sylencia - isn't around enough to do anything LM - isn't around enough to do anything Why Koshi was 90% likely SCUM: Almost everyone in the game who has played with Koshi noticed that he was having a severe drop in both anger and activity from his typical town play. Here is me basically summarizing it, cuz I am the amazing Town Jesus: On September 04 2014 13:47 ritoky wrote: i don't think koshi is scum yet; but he is leaning that way. i have only played 2 games with him, and the one where he was town he wanted to actively grab the game by the balls and lead town. the fact that he doesn't want to do that and seems content passing the grail to one of his town reads in geript isn't in line w/ the previous town play i experienced of his. After quite a few people lob accusations of, Koshi felt the need to address it: On September 05 2014 01:54 Koshi wrote: It's the new and improved me. Mass posting is terrible for me because I get insanely caught within the thread. I need to be able to take a step back and look at the thread without bias. It's much better for my reads. I just need people to do the legwork for me. He claimed a change in playstyle. An excuse. It is what mafia do. I have seen mafia claim to be moving as an excuse for inactivity, mafia claim to be sick, mafia claim they had work, on these forums excuses are excuses and in my experience usually made by mafia. HOWEVER, there's 2 interesting tidbits in there. Did you notice them? Let's read the post again but with bolded parts! On September 05 2014 01:54 Koshi wrote: It's the new and improved me. Mass posting is terrible for me because I get insanely caught within the thread. I need to be able to take a step back and look at the thread without bias. It's much better for my reads. I just need people to do the legwork for me. 1) This may just be him not being a native English speaker and me being a bit of an asshole, but read that phrasing. If someone was trying to say they get easily consumed by the thread they would use the phrase "caught up in". However, he says "caught within"; as in if he posts a lot there is something of his to catch. This is probably not very believable to many, but I am a bitch about awkward phrasing, and I don't let it go. 2) "I just need people to do the legwork for me" - Let me translate this for you: "I don't want to contribute to town in any meaningful way." That is mafia mindset plain and simple. Especially coming from Koshi. So we have Koshi's inactivity and absence of anger, along with his excuse. Now after that he kinda cruises through the thread for a bit, with his only real contribution being a scum read on confirmed town who later outed as the Martyr. And then we approach the deadline. On September 07 2014 06:05 Koshi wrote: Let's get majority please. I am willing to sheep. Translation: "I am willing to GUARANTEED LYNCH ANYONE, rather than have the possibility of the judge randomly lynching me". Koshi's mindset was not that of a town, toward the end of the day all he cared about was getting oats to remove him from his tunnel, and getting a majority on ANYONE. That is not town to me in any way. Flat out. I think there is a 90% likelihood that Koshi was mafia. Now that I am pretty sure Koshi was scum, let's look at inconsistencies in what people have claimed: 1) damdred: he gave no real read at all on koshi during day 1; in fact i would say his only substantive interaction with him is rather positive and a softball: On September 07 2014 00:29 Damdred wrote: Koshi, was reading your filter. You seem pretty solid on gobble town and said in one post that her posts make you feel that way. What changed? Was it just because gobble put the vote on you and left for awhile? In a follow up post you said that gobbles early game was scummy. If you thought the early game was scummy why did you have gobble in your town pile to start with? Yet he flips his read entirely after "re-reading the entire thread" and noticing demeanor things about koshi, but not pointing them out to anyone. Do you also "want someone to do the legwork for" you? 2) rayn: this was rayn's stance on koshi faily close to the end of the day: On September 06 2014 13:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am starting to thonk i sheep Koshi tonight. this is rayn's stance on koshi right after the lynch: On September 08 2014 13:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: the problem with this game is the following. there were four people who were considered (usually) town leaders. me koshi geript and yamato. geript people do not trust on anyways, no matter what he says. i was not around for the most of the time. koshi didn't do shit - i think he could have even be scum based purely on that. yamato didn't get anything done. That leaves Koshi and yamato. I think there is one mafia between them because i am conflicted about the fact that the d1 was shit. yes it really was shit. you guys couldnt even get a fucking lynch done without me and thats terrible. however yamato looks town so id put my bets on koshi being mafia. This is rayn's stance on koshi when asked if it's a hit or miss: On September 09 2014 13:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi can say whatever he wants of "not posting much" or whatever but he can't actyually never do that when he is town. If that progression doesn't disturb you, then I am not really sure what will. 3) robik: his moving of his read to the fence is suspect in my mind. his reason was that "so many people are calling koshi a hit that i am beginning to doubt he was". sorry, but if there's one thing i know about town robik it is that he is confident in his reads to the point of having confidence and gall. your moving of your read to the fence demonstrates a healthy sense of paranoia for most people, but for you it shows wishywashyness in your reads. the last time i saw you go wishywashy you were mafia. what i learned about some people: A) i still want to lynch sylencia so much it is ridiculous. B) geript is probably town, adamant refusal to that extent is a thumbs up in my book C) oats is in a tunnel and probably town, but won't be very helpful. D) a solid read on sloosh still eludes me which makes me inherently think he might be scum. E) fuck LM F) really unsure about giving robik the grail now G) right now would lynch between syl, damdred, and rayn. My town right now: Town Jesus, probably geript, probably yamato77, probably oats, and maybe robik but he falling off. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
taking dat shower now, need to wash the swag off of me. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Just vote for Sylencia. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On September 04 2014 08:19 slOosh wrote: Could someone link the old witch setup? On September 04 2014 23:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats i understand Koshi's way of reading Sloosh although i obviously disagree with his read on hik. I think it makes him town -- not sure town but more likely to be town than mafia. Sloosh here are the last three tinyhunt game/is: http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1746&pid=110522#pid110522 http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1777&pid=116865#pid116865 http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1800&pid=122921#pid122921 On September 06 2014 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: For the record this will be the last post about setup speculation and how the setup is played. You will all listen to me now. The cop claims on D2 if they have guilty. 1-1 trade is very good because the cop gets souped on N1 and we will know the dead players roles. The oracle visits the cop on N2 if this happens. If there is one mafia left on D3, they claim. Then we massclaim. There are roles that cannot be counter-claimed. The claiming will go like this: scummiest player first ---->>> townier. people claim if they are cc-able roles or non-cc-able roles. roles that shoot are non-ccable. + some other roles. I think everyone is smart enough to figure out which roles. There IS gonna be a counter-claim if town has played well enough (the martyr has martyred on N1 -- and we have lynched mafia on D1). Insta-win gg. We literally win the game 100% if we lynch mafia on D1 and the cop gets a guilty on N1. If this does not happen do not claim. The oracle role MUST claim when there is 1 mafia left. They MUST!!!!! Sloosh said: nothing about the setup which he found sososo important before! rayn: votes for Sloosh On September 06 2014 02:45 slOosh wrote: [...] I feel better about rayn after his most recent slew of posts, particularly the setup one, because it's the same plan I thought up of to myself, and I'm less inclined to think scum rayn would freely give up that info because it's dubious if town would have figured it out. [...] There is no logic. No logic at all except for mafia trying to make me feel better about him. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On September 09 2014 14:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: what i mean by playing wrong is you cannot read properly or don't understand what you are reading. right because stating someone is wrong, and not why is constructive town behavior. thumbs up | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 09 2014 15:13 ritoky wrote: right because stating someone is wrong, and not why is constructive town behavior. thumbs up you are forgetting the chain of events and what i didn't post (for obvious reasons as the nights are silent): - Koshi makes a case on gobble which i thought was good as i implied - gobble claims, which makes Koshi incorrect - rayn assumes Koshi will act like town leader and push another lynch if he is town (unless he is the judge in which case it would make sense for him to no-lynch aswell as he can decide the lynch by himself) - Koshi does not do that - rayn asks Koshi to help him lynch mafia - Koshi does not do that - N1 becomes - D2 becomes - rayn thinks Koshi was mafia now how does that not make sense? | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On September 09 2014 15:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: you are forgetting the chain of events and what i didn't post (for obvious reasons as the nights are silent): - Koshi makes a case on gobble which i thought was good as i implied - gobble claims, which makes Koshi incorrect - rayn assumes Koshi will act like town leader and push another lynch if he is town (unless he is the judge in which case it would make sense for him to no-lynch aswell as he can decide the lynch by himself) - Koshi does not do that - rayn asks Koshi to help him lynch mafia - Koshi does not do that - N1 becomes - D2 becomes - rayn thinks Koshi was mafia now how does that not make sense? wait...i am an idiot...if he was mafia calling for a majority, then he was calling for one on you. thus you almost certainly aren't mafia if koshi is unless that bus was real. so rayn is most probably town. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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that's not how you play mafia sir... | ||
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