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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 09 2014 06:23 GMT
#1221
yes, i am very down for that
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:27 GMT
#1222
are you around ritoky?
who else is scum? let's talk about sloosh and one player of your choise.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 09 2014 06:32 GMT
#1223
i don't like damdred, in league game should be available soon
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:36 GMT
#1224
Did Koshi ever think Damdred is mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:37 GMT
#1225
Damdred how close did you read N&T after you died?
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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 09 2014 06:54 GMT
#1226
On September 09 2014 12:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 21:42 LoneMeow wrote:
raynpelikoneet

While I'd agree he's not playing as he usually does, I don't see that being alignment indicative.

I don't have a solid read on him but I do like this post for him being town:
On September 08 2014 13:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the problem with this game is the following.
there were four people who were considered (usually) town leaders. me koshi geript and yamato.
geript people do not trust on anyways, no matter what he says.
i was not around for the most of the time.
koshi didn't do shit - i think he could have even be scum based purely on that.
yamato didn't get anything done.

That leaves Koshi and yamato. I think there is one mafia between them because i am conflicted about the fact that the d1 was shit. yes it really was shit. you guys couldnt even get a fucking lynch done without me and thats terrible. however yamato looks town so id put my bets on koshi being mafia.


In fact the point about Koshi is a very good one and I think Koshi was a decent lynch.

So I'll say leaning town. A little.

+ Show Spoiler +

On September 08 2014 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also in 36h starts my vacation and then i'll play.

He'd never say this as scum - is what I'd want to believe.

LoneMeow why did you make this post?


Because you were one of the focal points for D1. I thought it would be useful if I commented you since you were the leading wagon.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 09 2014 06:56 GMT
#1227
On September 09 2014 05:19 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 21:27 LoneMeow wrote:
slOosh

I read him scum earlier and not much has changed.

He asks questions but there's no followup.

First says he feels better about raynpelikoneet (who he never really called scum anyway):
On September 06 2014 02:45 slOosh wrote:
I feel better about rayn after his most recent slew of posts, particularly the setup one, because it's the same plan I thought up of to myself, and I'm less inclined to think scum rayn would freely give up that info because it's dubious if town would have figured it out.


Then once Damdred makes his case on raynpelikoneet, he's suddenly up to lynching raynpelikoneet:
On September 07 2014 04:07 slOosh wrote:
Oh baby Robik just attained "I would matryr for him if I was matryr" status.
But I'd do Damdred , Rayn , geript , LoneMeow / Koshi / Oats.

I can get on the rayn lynch. His fixation on Sylencia and gobbley the whole game is basically persuing easy mislynches, and when gobbley claims he can't go after that so it's back to Sylencia. He doesn't mention anything about Damdred really, but finds it relevant to soft defend him
On September 06 2014 13:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So gobble damdred is mafia because he is calling sloosh scum an not defending himself instead..... god what the hell?

Side note: Damdred never actually calls me scum after all this. He complains about all this stuff I'm doing, but never actually calls me scum. But in anycase, he is soft defending Damdred here without commenting on him.

Are we going for the big plays?


Not a towny thought progression.

##DeadlineVote: slOosh

Why is it a scummy progression? I considered the possibility of both being scum and so considered the rayn lynch, going off of yamato's confidence and seeing Damdred trying to pull off a weak bus. Which it very well could still be seeing as how he totally reneged on it last night.


It's really opportunistic. You hardly mention him until someone starts pushing for his lynch, then you're all up for it.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:58 GMT
#1228
Damdred:
This is the typical experience I have had with Rayn in the four games that i've played with him as town. In N&T mafia he did the same thing with Koshi. Either he was goin to die or Koshi was basically, he did ease off koshi once he realized his mistake and got a warning from the mod.

Explain the bolded part. Especially the underlined given this:
I never thought Koshi was mafia in N&T which i have said multiple times in the game and after the game. I was willing to throw the game at first because Koshi was being dumb as fuck. Then i decided not to and focused on convincing VE and Haru on Onegu being scum. This is obvious to everyone who has played / followed the game.

Now besides Damdred, who needs to explain this, Sloosh and Haru also need to explain why they did not call Damdred out on D1 for this - you guys should KNOW this is wrong and Damdred is either (1) intentionally misconstruing what i did in N&T or (2) talking out of his ass as he hasn't actually read the game past N1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 06:59 GMT
#1229
On September 09 2014 15:54 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 12:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 08 2014 21:42 LoneMeow wrote:
raynpelikoneet

While I'd agree he's not playing as he usually does, I don't see that being alignment indicative.

I don't have a solid read on him but I do like this post for him being town:
On September 08 2014 13:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the problem with this game is the following.
there were four people who were considered (usually) town leaders. me koshi geript and yamato.
geript people do not trust on anyways, no matter what he says.
i was not around for the most of the time.
koshi didn't do shit - i think he could have even be scum based purely on that.
yamato didn't get anything done.

That leaves Koshi and yamato. I think there is one mafia between them because i am conflicted about the fact that the d1 was shit. yes it really was shit. you guys couldnt even get a fucking lynch done without me and thats terrible. however yamato looks town so id put my bets on koshi being mafia.


In fact the point about Koshi is a very good one and I think Koshi was a decent lynch.

So I'll say leaning town. A little.

+ Show Spoiler +

On September 08 2014 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also in 36h starts my vacation and then i'll play.

He'd never say this as scum - is what I'd want to believe.

LoneMeow why did you make this post?


Because you were one of the focal points for D1. I thought it would be useful if I commented you since you were the leading wagon.

But i am not the leading wagon on D2. You should have said what you have on D1 when it was relevant. You didn't even comment on me in any meaningful way on D1 when it actually WAS relevant, and now when it isn't you do. And i do wanna know why you think it's relevant now?

Also what's your take on Sloosh and Sylencia?
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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 09 2014 07:00 GMT
#1230
On September 08 2014 11:22 Damdred wrote:
I was halfway expecting to die during the night from the judge, which I am thankful of tonight.

Geript why do you want haru dead so much? Just because he was useless day 1? Meta wise generally town haru usually shines day 2 and onward so i'd want to see what he can do some today.


On September 09 2014 05:22 Damdred wrote:
Honestly sloosh you are my top scum read right now, and maybe haru. I was moving towards ger but i read his filter and parts of it seem pretty towny.


What changed to make you think HaruRH is scum after softly defending him earlier?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 07:05 GMT
#1231
LoneMeow let's say we lynch Damdred today. Do we lynch Sloosh the next day?
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 09 2014 07:05 GMT
#1232
alright i am here now. league game went a bit longer than anticipated.

sloosh....idk the guy is an engima to me this game. i felt he was extremely non-committal with all of his reads early on during d1. like he was posturing to see how the day would land. i also remember him getting rly angry about oats' early aggro tunnels on people and since then oats hasn't changed but sloosh stopped criticizing him for it. he does a lot of prompting of people and try to move the game along posts that don't have tons of substance too, and he switched to robik for grail off of me....

did he explain the switch? need to go look through his filter

anyways that's a lot of the negatives i can remember, but i also remember thinking he had some redeeming posts, maybe i will find them looking in his filter
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 09 2014 07:09 GMT
#1233
On September 09 2014 15:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 15:54 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 09 2014 12:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 08 2014 21:42 LoneMeow wrote:
raynpelikoneet

While I'd agree he's not playing as he usually does, I don't see that being alignment indicative.

I don't have a solid read on him but I do like this post for him being town:
On September 08 2014 13:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the problem with this game is the following.
there were four people who were considered (usually) town leaders. me koshi geript and yamato.
geript people do not trust on anyways, no matter what he says.
i was not around for the most of the time.
koshi didn't do shit - i think he could have even be scum based purely on that.
yamato didn't get anything done.

That leaves Koshi and yamato. I think there is one mafia between them because i am conflicted about the fact that the d1 was shit. yes it really was shit. you guys couldnt even get a fucking lynch done without me and thats terrible. however yamato looks town so id put my bets on koshi being mafia.


In fact the point about Koshi is a very good one and I think Koshi was a decent lynch.

So I'll say leaning town. A little.

+ Show Spoiler +

On September 08 2014 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also in 36h starts my vacation and then i'll play.

He'd never say this as scum - is what I'd want to believe.

LoneMeow why did you make this post?


Because you were one of the focal points for D1. I thought it would be useful if I commented you since you were the leading wagon.

But i am not the leading wagon on D2. You should have said what you have on D1 when it was relevant. You didn't even comment on me in any meaningful way on D1 when it actually WAS relevant, and now when it isn't you do. And i do wanna know why you think it's relevant now?

Also what's your take on Sloosh and Sylencia?


You're right that I should've said it on D1, unfortunately that was not possible. Make whatever you want of that.

My take on slOosh has not changed, he's still my top scum read.

Sylencia is quite scummy, especially for calling slOosh scum but not doing anything about it. All the while pushing geript who doesn't seem likely to get lynched right now.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 09 2014 07:11 GMT
#1234
he doesn't explain the switch, but from the jist of it i got: he thinks damdred is scum, robik agrees and gets on the damdred is scum train, i stay on sylencia. he switches to robik.

also i remember my redeeming thought on sloosh, i didn't think that dam and sloosh could both be mafia cuz of yesterday...like sloosh's bus would have had to be INTENSE. so it was a POE pass, since i think dam is more likely mafia than sloosh at this point.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 07:18 GMT
#1235
I think Damdred is generally making a lot more sense than Sloosh is.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 07:23 GMT
#1236
On September 09 2014 16:09 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 15:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 09 2014 15:54 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 09 2014 12:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 08 2014 21:42 LoneMeow wrote:
raynpelikoneet

While I'd agree he's not playing as he usually does, I don't see that being alignment indicative.

I don't have a solid read on him but I do like this post for him being town:
On September 08 2014 13:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the problem with this game is the following.
there were four people who were considered (usually) town leaders. me koshi geript and yamato.
geript people do not trust on anyways, no matter what he says.
i was not around for the most of the time.
koshi didn't do shit - i think he could have even be scum based purely on that.
yamato didn't get anything done.

That leaves Koshi and yamato. I think there is one mafia between them because i am conflicted about the fact that the d1 was shit. yes it really was shit. you guys couldnt even get a fucking lynch done without me and thats terrible. however yamato looks town so id put my bets on koshi being mafia.


In fact the point about Koshi is a very good one and I think Koshi was a decent lynch.

So I'll say leaning town. A little.

+ Show Spoiler +

On September 08 2014 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also in 36h starts my vacation and then i'll play.

He'd never say this as scum - is what I'd want to believe.

LoneMeow why did you make this post?


Because you were one of the focal points for D1. I thought it would be useful if I commented you since you were the leading wagon.

But i am not the leading wagon on D2. You should have said what you have on D1 when it was relevant. You didn't even comment on me in any meaningful way on D1 when it actually WAS relevant, and now when it isn't you do. And i do wanna know why you think it's relevant now?

Also what's your take on Sloosh and Sylencia?


You're right that I should've said it on D1, unfortunately that was not possible. Make whatever you want of that.

My take on slOosh has not changed, he's still my top scum read.

Sylencia is quite scummy, especially for calling slOosh scum but not doing anything about it. All the while pushing geript who doesn't seem likely to get lynched right now.

Yes this is how i percieve the situation aswell.
Except he does not do anything about his geript suspicion aswell. Besides calling geript mafia for sitting on his vote on gobbly which Sylencia is also guilty of (regarding geript).
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Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
September 09 2014 07:28 GMT
#1237
LM: Voting for the person I find my personal top scum read especially early on the day is in no way scummy - sloosh is 2nd on my list but I've been saying it since yesterday that I find geript to be the most scummy. If sloosh is worse in other's eyes and people want him dead, naturally I'm willing to switch.

Anyways if you guys are going to vote for me I can very easily claim, since I'd rather take the bullet tonight than have a better role die, and if I do survive it's still a win for town considering it's still more or less a confirmed townie. In addition, because of the fact the necromancer only knowing of the role of someone still alive, it'd be impossible to fake claim the role which was discovered because that person is still alive and able to CC.

Rayn: will respond to you when i get home, since I'm leaving work now
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 08:00:15
September 09 2014 07:43 GMT
#1238
Votecount:

Format:
  • Normal votes are underlined and counted right away. Deadline votes are italicized and are not counted until deadline. The vote of the Holy-Grail holder counts 2x and is bolded.
  • Votes must be both in the vote-count thread and properly formatted to be valid.


SloOsh (0) - LoneMeow
HaruHR (0) -
Geript (1) - HaruRH, Sylencia
Damdred (0) - IAmRobik
Sylencia (2) - Raynpelikoneet, Geript, ritoky

Day 2 ends in . Please submit all possible day/night actions to both hosts.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 09 2014 07:45 GMT
#1239
i don't know how to take that response from sylencia lol.....there are many parts i don't really understand in the slightest; plus my natural reaction as an american is to not negotiate with terrorists such as those who threaten; that's the second one today...

still don't understand this guy. even that post is pure defense like earlier in the game. he doesn't pursue scum in any way, and then he retroactively says hey i read this guy scum. he can't be a donkey; he has to be scum....if not my mind is blown.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2014 07:49 GMT
#1240
anyways i need to travel for about 8 hours.
i'll be around for whole night tonight.

cya later. make people talk.
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