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Sylencia
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Sylencia
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On September 09 2014 13:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am also extremely conflicted about Oats and LoneMeow atm but today we are lynching Sylencia. I don't like the fact that Oats does not read Sylencia as scum as per his reasoning on LoneMeow. Sylencia has been more useless than LM because he really doesn't have any scumreads except for geript (and Oats uses that reasoning for scumreading LM). LM on the other hand made an interesting set of posts. He gave two scumreads which is fine. But then he gave a random townread on me. I can't figure out what he is trying to do with that post. Like, why does he need to say he has a "little townread on rayn". It just feels out of place. I havent mentioned syl practically at all for the last 72 hours. The whole set of 3 read posts feels really off. I could lynch syl today I guess yeah. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On September 09 2014 13:41 geript wrote: I still think LM is town. He looked really towny to me day 1. He's also prone to being modkilled sadly. But we can't afford to lynch him over a few other people. Please explain which of the 9 posts he posted day 1 make him town. Also who are the 'few other people'? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On September 09 2014 17:10 Sylencia wrote: Actually on second thought I wouldn't bother revealing if I was to get lynched Nope. Now you claim. There's only a handful of roles that could get you into considering claiming prelynch. Claim or die. It's that simple. | ||
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Sylencia
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geript
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On September 09 2014 17:43 Sylencia wrote: Plz geript I know you want to soup but I'm still on the train, so you'll have to wait. Unfortunately for you though I've been sitting on this train for an hour know and it's not looking like I'm getting home any time soon =(! If I were mafia, I'd have souped last night and gotten 3 people thank you very much. I also would've just souped the martyr instead of going for a kill. This setup is really easy if you know what to look for. Hell that's a major reason why Rayn is town. In no way does he ever not soup last night. In no way does he let his team soup last night. | ||
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geript
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
On September 09 2014 18:14 HaruRH wrote: Problem is, mafia still can soup tonight. If its me ill soup for all. That doesn't explain why you'd ever consider claiming. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
As inquisitor he'd try to stay alive much more before wanting to claim. Acolyte isn't a role you ever claim. As Judge he'd do his best to get a no lynch. As Exorcist he'd know that there's not a point to claim. Oracle doesn't claim without information of 2 and even then it'd be a bad idea in this situation. Grander doesn't need to claim. Pope has no point claiming now. Crusader... Why claim here or ever? Wraith has no reason to ever claim. So again what's his reason as town to claim? | ||
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geript
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
Wait. That don't exist here. Therefore he is mafia.[/b] | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On September 09 2014 19:04 HaruRH wrote: Oh geript you never considered that he was claiming to bait a cc . His is probably the betrayer, the role that switches once he help mafia kill one, the role which.... Wait. That don't exist here. Therefore he is mafia. Fixed | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On September 04 2014 21:06 Sylencia wrote: aHaru is town. Can't explain in too much detail without souping Haru. I am pretty certain I'm seeing the ideal situation and disagree with Koshi's statement about not seeing the big picture. Null: yamato - call out with no reasoning. Impossible to say anything about it damdred - 1 post rayn - 1 post lonemeow - not in yet I'm extremely conflicted about Oats. I hate the fact he called sloosh and koshi scum without any reasoning - and still without explaining why he called it out in the first place. His case against sloosh is pretty paper thin and I disagree with his interpretation of sloosh's posts. My interpretation is that the Oracle, Inquisitor and Wraith do what they think is best in terms of both finding the best time to reveal and expose themselves to soup, and in addition who they target. All of us, including the mentioned roles should (at some point closer to deadline more likely) put in suggestions as to who are the ideal target(s). Obviously we can wait for sloosh to come back to smooth things out a bit, but I feel like Oats is just cherry picking the part that makes sloosh look the worse and ignoring everything around it. Main reason why I'm conflicted is because the way Oats has been playing is classic town Oats and some high percentage of games (I think) end up with Oats being mislynched D1 because of it -_- IAmRobik - pretty townie, can't see scum seeing the gobble grail vote reasoning before being told about it. I wouldn't ever hammer over this alone, but it's definitely a strike against gobble Gobble is null-scum - Until I think about it later, something gives me a bad feeling about the initial planning post (regarding Inquis/Oracle visiting the same person) - like it feels like a plan to stifle the information we get from the Inquisitor in order to get Oracle views, which I think is pretty average N1. Then there's the case from Robik which I still think is still decent, but as I said, it's not solid enough evidence. Scum team prediction so far: 1 of the players who haven't posted more than once or twice, oats and gobble. On September 05 2014 22:43 Sylencia wrote: Just accept I think you're town because I put myself in your shoes. I can only go so deep into my logic without saying too much. On September 08 2014 22:59 Sylencia wrote: Explained it already D1, Haru has the in depth details. Still has yet to do anything D2 either. What do you think about his constant buddying with me? buddying is alignment null, but... this is pretty excessive. | ||
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On September 09 2014 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: LoneMeow let's say we lynch Damdred today. Do we lynch Sloosh the next day? In a normal game it would depend on what Damdred flips, but since this is no-flip game I think it depends on how he plays the next day. | ||
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Sylencia
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On September 09 2014 16:28 Sylencia wrote: LM: Voting for the person I find my personal top scum read especially early on the day is in no way scummy - sloosh is 2nd on my list but I've been saying it since yesterday that I find geript to be the most scummy. If sloosh is worse in other's eyes and people want him dead, naturally I'm willing to switch. The problem is that you haven't really done anything about it. No case on him, no questioning him, nothing. The only time you've talked about him in any detail was here: On September 06 2014 14:51 Sylencia wrote: But I don't think we have a choice to see what happens after N1 :\ Anyways, Damdred may be lurky this game but the majority of his posts have been actual soft pushes and questioning of people's motives. No one ever follows up on it though, and it'd actually make it hard to get a good back and forth showing whether or not he's town. Following from that, sloosh is avoiding the majority of Damdred's replies and painting a picture of how we should be viewing Damdred - someone who lurks under the radar and doesn't have anything to show. I mean, the part with nothing to show can easily be fixed Damdred, who are your top 3 scum reads and why but my activity would be so low if I was getting ignored like Damdred was. I'm not one to want to lynch him today. Geript: He gave his opinions about a day and a half ago(?), most of which were meta cases to show who he thought was scum. Ever since then everything he's posted has been rather wishy washy and never actually pushes for anyone being scum. Instead, all you'll see are town reads which is mostly fine, but there's more than 1 scum, and sitting on gobbly as the only scum read is pretty poor. My top 3 scum reads: Sloosh, geript and goobly. I like the association between the 3, but meh. Goobly because I like to think I had already figured out who the martyr was, but I mean, that claim I feel is pretty horrible anyways. So can you run me through what he's done since then, does that look scummy or towny and why. | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
Claim or die geript? On September 09 2014 18:34 geript wrote: There's no role he could have that he'd consider claiming period. Like there's no point. Acolyte isn't a role you ever claim. Nah the brilliant part is that I didn't read who was the Inquisitor until now (to prevent myself from giving away information consciously or unconsciously) so that if the time came I would be able to role claim safely. On that note, our inquisitor is still alive and well. Alive or dead, I don't care but to me it's up to the scum team to decide what happens during the night. What goes down N2 is probably the most telling thing in terms of the scum that are left. "Why would you not read it when you first got it, other than the fact you'd be doing this to role claim later because that seems like horrible play?" - Keeps me from being too biased given my knowledge of the inquisitor (too sheepy etc) - Mathematically only a 1/12 chance of the inquisitor being lynched. Given that town players also act less scummy in general, that chance of being lynched decreases. This helps me justify not looking at it. - If they died N1, I'd check. Given we know the martyr died, there was no need. I was going to hold on to whether or not I'd read it for another 12 hours because the final 24 hours of the day are always more important but yeah, since I have 3-4 votes on me my hand was kind of forced. | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
On September 09 2014 19:11 HaruRH wrote: a What do you think about his constant buddying with me? buddying is alignment null, but... this is pretty excessive. The first quote is while I still thought you were martyr remember? Second post is because I was lazy to reiterate similar things to what you said - I mean you look at what I posted about geript in d1, and wow it's not too dissimilar to your case. | ||
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