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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 09 2014 00:20 GMT
#1161
lynch dat lm guys.
INSTANT LYNCH HIS FACE SO WE CAN GET TO THE PART WHERE EVERYONE DIES.
No gg, No skill.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 09 2014 00:40 GMT
#1162
On September 09 2014 09:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
lynch dat lm guys.
INSTANT LYNCH HIS FACE SO WE CAN GET TO THE PART WHERE EVERYONE DIES.

GOOD IDEA THEN AT LEAAT MY ROLE IS USEFUL THEN
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 09 2014 00:41 GMT
#1163
On September 09 2014 09:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
lynch dat lm guys.
INSTANT LYNCH HIS FACE SO WE CAN GET TO THE PART WHERE EVERYONE DIES.

What?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 09 2014 00:44 GMT
#1164
FYI. We're lynching today because I think the judge isn't someone we can trust.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 09 2014 01:47 GMT
#1165
On September 09 2014 07:44 slOosh wrote:
yamato, read on LoneMeow? Also please answer what the heck your read on Damdred is right now?

LM seems pretty tryhard. I remember him posting much less content and such as a townie before. Not sure he suddenly just starts bombing out cases on people as a mafia player.

Damdred I gave an answer on. It's hard to read him at the moment with his tunnel and all the pressure on him.
Writer@WriterYamato
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 09 2014 03:10 GMT
#1166
On September 09 2014 10:47 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 07:44 slOosh wrote:
yamato, read on LoneMeow? Also please answer what the heck your read on Damdred is right now?

LM seems pretty tryhard. I remember him posting much less content and such as a townie before. Not sure he suddenly just starts bombing out cases on people as a mafia player.

Damdred I gave an answer on. It's hard to read him at the moment with his tunnel and all the pressure on him.

what.
how is half a page, "tryhard"?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 09 2014 03:11 GMT
#1167
On September 09 2014 09:41 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 09:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
lynch dat lm guys.
INSTANT LYNCH HIS FACE SO WE CAN GET TO THE PART WHERE EVERYONE DIES.

What?

lynch Lone Meow
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 09 2014 03:19 GMT
#1168
lone meow has 12 fucking posts yamato.
And the last 3 are really bad. Not interacting with the thread.
just random reads, a list post in 3 posts.
Its like he saw that these people were being discussed then posted some reads without questioning them further or making any attempt to improve the accuracy of his read.
On September 08 2014 21:42 LoneMeow wrote:
raynpelikoneet

While I'd agree he's not playing as he usually does, I don't see that being alignment indicative.

I don't have a solid read on him but I do like this post for him being town:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 13:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the problem with this game is the following.
there were four people who were considered (usually) town leaders. me koshi geript and yamato.
geript people do not trust on anyways, no matter what he says.
i was not around for the most of the time.
koshi didn't do shit - i think he could have even be scum based purely on that.
yamato didn't get anything done.

That leaves Koshi and yamato. I think there is one mafia between them because i am conflicted about the fact that the d1 was shit. yes it really was shit. you guys couldnt even get a fucking lynch done without me and thats terrible. however yamato looks town so id put my bets on koshi being mafia.


In fact the point about Koshi is a very good one and I think Koshi was a decent lynch.

So I'll say leaning town. A little.

+ Show Spoiler +

On September 08 2014 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also in 36h starts my vacation and then i'll play.

He'd never say this as scum - is what I'd want to believe.

On September 08 2014 21:34 LoneMeow wrote:
Damdred

Was leaning town on him earlier for his early game suspicion of IAmRobik at a stage where I don't see scum doing that.

The way he's all defensive but not producing many reads when the pressure is on him is suspicious, but the case on raynpelikoneet shows clear effort. Except for the fact that he then pretty much says he didn't actually do a proper meta comparison and upon checking better retracts the case.

Verdict: Leaning scum. Most likely not scum if slOosh is, though.

These 2 posts are unsure and they are active when he posted this. He couldve asked questions but clearly wants to sit back and watch the day unfold.
Scummy reactiveness, not proactive.
DIE.
! !
No gg, No skill.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 09 2014 03:25 GMT
#1169
yamato -- please answer my question on damdred
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 09 2014 03:28 GMT
#1170
ACTUALLY i thought that the judge's lynch was quite reasonable. By not targeting rayn, dam or sylencia, where mafia is definitely voting for at least one, he can let mafia think judge is between oats (for voting koshi) and rayn (they have some lame ass beef) which in fact, is most likely not true. As such, i can bet my balls (virtual balls) that mafia tried to kill rayn or oats and got blocked by gobble (this is espeically true since the necro can apparently still see the target's role, so that guy will get souped)

Since it is a given that judge lynched koshi with town intents, we can start eliminating people off the list.

Geript (2) - Sylencia, HaruRH
Sylencia (2) - ritoky, raynpelikoneet
Damdred (3) - gobbeldydook, Koshi, geript
Koshi (1) - Oatsmaster
Raynpelikoneet (5) - Yamato77, Damdred, IAmRobik, SloOsh,gobbledydook

Koshi is still a wildcard so he is bolded.
robik is town because i know for sure scumrobik will not go for the grail. He will just give excuses and lurk like mad.
gobble and i are green because gobble flipped while i am town. These are given.
Yamato is green because i trust robik's townreads more than my own.

if my analysis is correct, i predict that either oats or rayn will get souped. Mafia might try to save the soup and not soup anyone d2 too. I have different sets of scumreads according to who gets souped and if nobody gets souped. I'll save them for d3 so it doesn't help the mafia.
But, my general scumreads now are :geript, sloosh, ritoky.

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 09 2014 03:34 GMT
#1171
On September 09 2014 12:28 HaruRH wrote:
ACTUALLY i thought that the judge's lynch was quite reasonable. By not targeting rayn, dam or sylencia, where mafia is definitely voting for at least one, he can let mafia think judge is between oats (for voting koshi) and rayn (they have some lame ass beef) which in fact, is most likely not true. As such, i can bet my balls (virtual balls) that mafia tried to kill rayn or oats and got blocked by gobble (this is espeically true since the necro can apparently still see the target's role, so that guy will get souped)

Since it is a given that judge lynched koshi with town intents, we can start eliminating people off the list.

Geript (2) - Sylencia, HaruRH
Sylencia (2) - ritoky, raynpelikoneet
Damdred (3) - gobbeldydook, Koshi, geript
Koshi (1) - Oatsmaster
Raynpelikoneet (5) - Yamato77, Damdred, IAmRobik, SloOsh,gobbledydook

Koshi is still a wildcard so he is bolded.
robik is town because i know for sure scumrobik will not go for the grail. He will just give excuses and lurk like mad.
gobble and i are green because gobble flipped while i am town. These are given.
Yamato is green because i trust robik's townreads more than my own.

if my analysis is correct, i predict that either oats or rayn will get souped. Mafia might try to save the soup and not soup anyone d2 too. I have different sets of scumreads according to who gets souped and if nobody gets souped. I'll save them for d3 so it doesn't help the mafia.
But, my general scumreads now are :geript, sloosh, ritoky.


Koshi was not a wild card. Robick would be more than willing to go for the grail just because he "wouldn't do that as mafia." He's done that as mafia like a billion and a half times.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 09 2014 03:41 GMT
#1172
On September 08 2014 21:42 LoneMeow wrote:
raynpelikoneet

While I'd agree he's not playing as he usually does, I don't see that being alignment indicative.

I don't have a solid read on him but I do like this post for him being town:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 13:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the problem with this game is the following.
there were four people who were considered (usually) town leaders. me koshi geript and yamato.
geript people do not trust on anyways, no matter what he says.
i was not around for the most of the time.
koshi didn't do shit - i think he could have even be scum based purely on that.
yamato didn't get anything done.

That leaves Koshi and yamato. I think there is one mafia between them because i am conflicted about the fact that the d1 was shit. yes it really was shit. you guys couldnt even get a fucking lynch done without me and thats terrible. however yamato looks town so id put my bets on koshi being mafia.


In fact the point about Koshi is a very good one and I think Koshi was a decent lynch.

So I'll say leaning town. A little.

+ Show Spoiler +

On September 08 2014 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also in 36h starts my vacation and then i'll play.

He'd never say this as scum - is what I'd want to believe.

LoneMeow why did you make this post?
table for two on a tv tray
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 09 2014 03:44 GMT
#1173
Rayn what do you think of haru and fee right now?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 09 2014 03:45 GMT
#1174
##unvote
##vote: sylencia


okay i have read enough this dude is mafia.
who knows why? there is certain proof on D2.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 09 2014 03:47 GMT
#1175
On September 08 2014 23:18 Sylencia wrote:
Hit, he pushed for gobble fairly hard with a big post, but looks like he gave up and sheeped onto the Damdred train.

He had made a post about me being scummy, but when it came time for him to trade he decided between Damdred and I somehow a single post about potential buddying meant Damdred was better lynch choice.

Read this post over and over again until you realize why Sylencia is mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 09 2014 03:47 GMT
#1176
On September 09 2014 12:28 HaruRH wrote:
ACTUALLY i thought that the judge's lynch was quite reasonable. By not targeting rayn, dam or sylencia, where mafia is definitely voting for at least one, he can let mafia think judge is between oats (for voting koshi) and rayn (they have some lame ass beef) which in fact, is most likely not true. As such, i can bet my balls (virtual balls) that mafia tried to kill rayn or oats and got blocked by gobble (this is espeically true since the necro can apparently still see the target's role, so that guy will get souped)

Since it is a given that judge lynched koshi with town intents, we can start eliminating people off the list.

Geript (2) - Sylencia, HaruRH
Sylencia (2) - ritoky, raynpelikoneet
Damdred (3) - gobbeldydook, Koshi, geript
Koshi (1) - Oatsmaster
Raynpelikoneet (5) - Yamato77, Damdred, IAmRobik, SloOsh,gobbledydook

Koshi is still a wildcard so he is bolded.
robik is town because i know for sure scumrobik will not go for the grail. He will just give excuses and lurk like mad.
gobble and i are green because gobble flipped while i am town. These are given.
Yamato is green because i trust robik's townreads more than my own.

if my analysis is correct, i predict that either oats or rayn will get souped. Mafia might try to save the soup and not soup anyone d2 too. I have different sets of scumreads according to who gets souped and if nobody gets souped. I'll save them for d3 so it doesn't help the mafia.
But, my general scumreads now are :geript, sloosh, ritoky.


who gives a shit who gets souped?
Why isnt this post about the most likely scum in the game?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 09 2014 03:51 GMT
#1177
On September 09 2014 01:53 IAmRobik wrote:
Haru might actually be mafia

Wrong. Haru is not mafia.
His case on geript actually is pretty townie although it does not make geript mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 09 2014 03:58 GMT
#1178
On September 09 2014 12:44 Damdred wrote:
Rayn what do you think of haru and fee right now?

who is fee?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 09 2014 03:59 GMT
#1179
Oats why do you not read Sylencia as scum?
Read the post i quoted. What's wrong in it?
table for two on a tv tray
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 09 2014 04:02 GMT
#1180
I think this game is more fun to play from a mechanical standpoint. We must first decipher what koshi's judge lynch and gobble's block does for us. Firstly,
However, if first the Soup target is incorrect, the witch will not be revealed and the message will instead read "a witch tried to kill targetname the [incorrect role] but failed".
This means that whoever gobble tried to protect have his role revealed by the necro already. Therefore, witch are given a free chance to guess roles without getting revealed (since they have a correct soup target already). So therefore, they can do something like: 1)robik is X. 2)Haru is Y. 3)(witch kill target blocked by gobble) is Z(which is correct). This is kinda bad since they get a free soup guess chain.

also, out of the 10 roles:
3 have a confirmed flip: Crusader, grandier, martyr.
4 can out themselves if they get a positive result: Inquisitor, exorcist, pope(only at lylo), pope*(when wraith haunts you, you know the identity), grandier*(when wraith haunts you, you know the identity).
2 can reveal if they are dead: judge (if a no lynch happens and there is no lynch selected, we can deduce that mafia killed judge at night), wandering wraith(he can haunt you and let you know he died).
Only acolyte is quite useless because you only get to confirm a player and when you out him, you must get ready to get him souped with you (if he is alive) and mafia can easily lie about being acolyte since they can say eg. koshi is inquisitor.

Therefore, it is crucial that the confirmed flip players do not die without flipping because every town flip helps a lot.

The game should solve itself at d3-d4. More details at d3 I like this game more and more now.

For now, I am content with the amount of info provided because of gobble's flip and the eventual soup that will confirm another town. Also, with gobble being an angel with koshi, it is more likely that the angelic protection comes from a town. From now on, I will be mostly using a mechanics point of view to do reads over than just reads based on posts (which I suck at).
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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