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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 17:23 GMT
#2201
On August 26 2014 02:22 Xatalos wrote:
So I don't think anyone outside of VA/Onegu would be a good lynch today. Hapa is just too risky.


Onegu is pretty much confirmed to be scum at this point, our issue today is finding the third one. hapa is most likely the SK given his play but you're right its not worth it to lynch him today. Just don't make the mistake of giving him a free pass again tomorrow and lynch onegu for sure.
I come in for the scraps
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 17:25 GMT
#2202
Both turtlevine and VA throw around the term "confirmed scum" rather casually...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 25 2014 17:30 GMT
#2203
On August 26 2014 01:56 turtlevine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 26 2014 01:51 turtlevine wrote:
On August 26 2014 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Your comment is weird. Scum, whether hapa or not obviously didn't kill Rayn. But I don't think anyone thinks hapa is mafia anymore.
Do you have reason to, given the way the end of day went yesterday?


what do you mean, scum didn't kill rayn? how did he die then, if not via scum? You think a vigi shot him?


SK, obviously


"Sorry, there's no salt on this bagel, just NaCl"


I don't understand you at all
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 25 2014 17:32 GMT
#2204
Xat Could you give me a condensed version of how you read the game right now after the night kills and the VA claim?
Zerg for Life
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 25 2014 17:37 GMT
#2205
Turtlevine's use of "confirmed scum" this game:

[ ] all the time
[ ] sometimes
[ ] at least once
[x] never
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 25 2014 17:40 GMT
#2206
The only thing that would probably make me give me the most hold is if more people claimed blue. But atm he's not the lynch at all i think.

xata been pocketed by hapa who he says has been svum hunting super hard....but the only good case is a towncase he made....
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 17:44 GMT
#2207
On August 26 2014 02:14 turtlevine wrote:
You would have been claiming Vigi, either as a real vigi or an SK pretending to be one.

2 scum are dead because we're lynching VA today, who is obviously scum. He's even more obviously scum if you're actually the vig since there's no way we'd have both a vigi and a joat.


Sorry, I misremembered obviously scum as confirmed scum. There's a slight difference indeed.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 17:50 GMT
#2208
On August 26 2014 02:32 KelsierSC wrote:
Xat Could you give me a condensed version of how you read the game right now after the night kills and the VA claim?


Here are my "condensed" reads >.>

VayneAuthority -2 not really a fan of his posts so far, I think someone said that he's pretty serious as scum and trolly as town? serious so far... seems to focus only on survival + made a rather dubious roleclaim
claimed JOAT early on D2 "to survive"

Onegu -1 AFK and still catching up :/ - entered the game constructively and tried to figure out the game, probably town... Hapa made good points about him being reckless to push rayn as scum + showing suspicion towards a Mason claim haha - well hasn't done much lately so dropped points - rayn flipping town puts him into worse light especially since he just threw his vote on rayn and disappeared

Damdred 1 Pretty forgettable posts so far instead of awkward like last time.... scum(my)? - actually his more recent posts mirror my thoughts so town? - rayn made a decent(ish) point about him perhaps being SK since he's a bit forgettable/passive??? and also looked for bluetells earlier... but still not a D1 lynch - worst D1 deadline vote, not good - actually his little questions to me remind a lot of the Arnie game so rather wait and see than lynch for now, feels like potentially town

Hapahauli 2 entered with great posts on rayn & me, quite confident that he's town - then dropped rayn suddenly, weird, possible scum after all? dunno, doesn't feel like a good D1 lynch anyway - went on to lynch Mafia GF which makes him a lot more towny - possible SK still considering rayn NK?

KelsierSC 3 "tryhardish" opening post that is actually fluff - and the theme continues.... :/ ugh so awkward, but also confrontational, so maybe just awkwardly tryhard? - really eager to lynch "useless" people ugh..? what is this... well continues to antagonize people so prolly town maybe? dunno... well seems so tryhard that I guess town maybe... yeah I guess so - well he's been defending rayn and pushing me with very forced reasons so not confident about him being town anymore (though he'd be very stupid if he's scum with rayn) - well more likely town still, very fearless if scum

WaveOfShadow 3 Reveals willingly which players he's confident in reading and responds to Kelsier in a pretty casual/townish(?) way - really casual posting style so town lean for now - really active/chatty in Championship as scum though so could be scum too - but he's still pretty happily participating in the discussion and felt genuinely frustrated at some point so town after all? - away for a lot of crucial discussion which drops his points by one - well he's come back to the thread and his posts seem pretty good lately - his thoughts resonated with my thoughts around deadline quite a bit which is good

yamato77 3 said nothing noteworthy yet - well started making some jokey posts so town? very lurky though which is scummy for him - re-entered the thread with vengeance and has been very townish, I'd say even obvtown level pretty much - Hapa made some good points about him lacking confidence and going on lurking periods though - still (actively?) lurking and posting here and there... gave up exactly like in the PYP game ALERT ALERT - went on to vote & kill Robik though and started actually doing stuff so probably town after all
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 25 2014 17:55 GMT
#2209
On August 26 2014 02:44 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 02:14 turtlevine wrote:
You would have been claiming Vigi, either as a real vigi or an SK pretending to be one.

2 scum are dead because we're lynching VA today, who is obviously scum. He's even more obviously scum if you're actually the vig since there's no way we'd have both a vigi and a joat.


Sorry, I misremembered obviously scum as confirmed scum. There's a slight difference indeed.


Not sure why youd make that mistake. how could he even be confirmed scum in this situation? I don't even
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 17:55 GMT
#2210
Another way to list the reads:

Unlynchable for now: yamato, WOS, KSC

Unlynchable today: Hapa, Damdred

Lynch candidates: VA, Onegu
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 17:56 GMT
#2211
On August 26 2014 02:55 turtlevine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 02:44 Xatalos wrote:
On August 26 2014 02:14 turtlevine wrote:
You would have been claiming Vigi, either as a real vigi or an SK pretending to be one.

2 scum are dead because we're lynching VA today, who is obviously scum. He's even more obviously scum if you're actually the vig since there's no way we'd have both a vigi and a joat.


Sorry, I misremembered obviously scum as confirmed scum. There's a slight difference indeed.


Not sure why youd make that mistake. how could he even be confirmed scum in this situation? I don't even


Because VA called Onegu as "confirmed scum" so I mixed up that you had also said the same when what you said was a bit different.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 25 2014 17:57 GMT
#2212
On August 26 2014 02:55 turtlevine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 02:44 Xatalos wrote:
On August 26 2014 02:14 turtlevine wrote:
You would have been claiming Vigi, either as a real vigi or an SK pretending to be one.

2 scum are dead because we're lynching VA today, who is obviously scum. He's even more obviously scum if you're actually the vig since there's no way we'd have both a vigi and a joat.


Sorry, I misremembered obviously scum as confirmed scum. There's a slight difference indeed.


Not sure why youd make that mistake. how could he even be confirmed scum in this situation? I don't even

Says the guy who says 2 scum are dead
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turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 25 2014 17:57 GMT
#2213
nobody is confirmed scum right now
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:02 GMT
#2214
Except Robik
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:03 GMT
#2215
On August 26 2014 02:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 02:22 Xatalos wrote:
So I don't think anyone outside of VA/Onegu would be a good lynch today. Hapa is just too risky.


Onegu is pretty much confirmed to be scum at this point, our issue today is finding the third one. hapa is most likely the SK given his play but you're right its not worth it to lynch him today. Just don't make the mistake of giving him a free pass again tomorrow and lynch onegu for sure.


Why isn't your vote on Onegu if you're so sure he's scum?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:10 GMT
#2216
Hm. In hindsight it really was pretty scummy how Onegu claimed he was a rayn reader extraordinaire, voted for him without reading the thread properly and left. rayn being scum would have largely redeemed Onegu, but now it just looks pretty bad for him. Scum also probably didn't expect rayn to die anytime soon, so it just added fuel to the fire without putting Onegu himself in much danger (rayn didn't react that strongly against Onegu and he would still be able to easily park his vote on rayn for several days even).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:11 GMT
#2217
But it's hard to decide between these two :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 25 2014 18:14 GMT
#2218
But xata you said oneg case on rayn was great and insiteful. Now your post is laced with sarcasm on what you once trumpeted, find it ironic now you are now saying everything i badically said on oneg a day later XD
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:20 GMT
#2219
On August 23 2014 21:01 Onegu wrote:
Yeah rayn Im reading you scum this game buddy, here is why. Normally you will be like scum rayn doesnt do this, scum rayn never does that. This game you are posting specific reasons to read you. I saw it on page 51 that I just pointed out and page 2 of your filter.


Well Damdred, Onegu's own reason for voting rayn wasn't very good (the post above). Especially since he's supposed to be an expert on rayn. But he did explain more of his thoughts on how to read rayn and I really liked his point about how town rayn clearly believes in everything he does while scum rayn doesn't. I thought it applied pretty well to his softpush on yamato and his baseless push on you. Still Onegu didn't really apply that overall theory to anything rayn did, I did it myself. Onegu just voted rayn based on the above post that isn't very convincing. I didn't really mind it when I thought rayn was scum anyway, but now it doesn't look that good anymore.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:26 GMT
#2220
WAIT!!!!

From the OP:

"Roleblocked X-Shots and JoaT roles will have their power use refunded."

This leads me to believe that a JOAT role actually exists in the game. Also the GF role PM pointed in the same direction (or more specifically that a watcher/tracker existed I guess, but a JOAT includes that power). With these two points of circumstantial evidence I think it's quite likely for a JOAT role to exist. Since there hasn't been a counterclaim, it's reasonably likely that the claim could be genuine.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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