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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:31 GMT
#2221
##Unvote
##Vote Onegu


Maybe just lynch Onegu today. Scum/SK will need to handle VA anyways if he's actually a JOAT (either roleblocking him, which will just refund the power again and again, or killing him).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:35 GMT
#2222
I really doubt VA would be SK (it's unlikely he would bet everything on this claim when it just makes him to be NK'd / roleblocked by scum). Scum JOAT is a possibility, I guess, but he still puts himself in danger from the SK by doing this.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 25 2014 18:36 GMT
#2223
On August 25 2014 23:28 yamato77 wrote:
If we want a "safe" lynch, I'd rather go for Onegu, but if any of you have balls, we should get a wagon rolling on Hapa.

##Vote: Hapahauli


lol
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:42 GMT
#2224
Dat wagon
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 25 2014 18:45 GMT
#2225
Anyway, as for Vayne, there's a pretty easy way to tell if he's town or mafia.

We have 2 masons and a Jailkeeper confirmed. Vayne is claiming JOAT. I think the likelyhood of there being another blue is pretty low. If another blue claims, Vayne is probably mafia.

Discuss.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 25 2014 18:51 GMT
#2226
So all of the posts. that say you are the sk you pick yamatos post to lol at then you say something everyone else in the thread has already agreed with. ok any other thoughts about you being sk hap? The weak cases you presented that you can tetraact and get off of easily. How about ehere hour vote went on when me and wave were your stronger reads
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 18:52 GMT
#2227
On August 26 2014 02:13 turtlevine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 26 2014 02:11 turtlevine wrote:
So... I guess on TL people use "Scum" to mean "Mafia" rather than "anti-town". When I'm talking about mafia, I'll just say mafia or scumteam. When I'm talking about scum, I'll say scum. Why have the word if it means the same as mafia?

Because in the English language, different words can have similar or the same meaning. These words are called synonyms.
This has been today's English lesson with WaveofShadow


http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Scum

"Scum is a catch-all term for any member of an informed minority, such as Serial Killers and Mafia goons. During a day phase, everybody is seemingly trying to locate and eliminate these roles."

Also, SK isn't an informed minority. He knows only his alignment & powers. He's more like a townie in that sense, but obviously he's playing to his own win condition which is incompatible with town's so he's anti-town. Only in that way is he similar to mafia, and thus, could be categorized with them.

Mafiascum is not the place to learn about mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 18:53 GMT
#2228
On August 26 2014 03:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Anyway, as for Vayne, there's a pretty easy way to tell if he's town or mafia.

We have 2 masons and a Jailkeeper confirmed. Vayne is claiming JOAT. I think the likelyhood of there being another blue is pretty low. If another blue claims, Vayne is probably mafia.

Discuss.

I said this already.

0 points for Hapa
Writer@WriterYamato
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 25 2014 18:53 GMT
#2229
On August 26 2014 03:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Anyway, as for Vayne, there's a pretty easy way to tell if he's town or mafia.

We have 2 masons and a Jailkeeper confirmed. Vayne is claiming JOAT. I think the likelyhood of there being another blue is pretty low. If another blue claims, Vayne is probably mafia.

Discuss.

I think asking for blues to claim when we're already pretty damn sure VA is mafia is scummy (or anti-town, so as not to confuse turtlevine) as all hell.
Also enjoy the fact that you haven't bothered to address SK suspicions on yourself in any way.

Ladies and gents, I think we have this game.
Hapa/Onegu/VA ftw
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:53 GMT
#2230
I think it'd be a bit weird to include a rule about JOATs in the FAQ, or a rule about Watchers in the GF role PM, if there is no JOAT/Watcher in the game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 25 2014 18:54 GMT
#2231
Host obfuscation, my dear Xat.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:54 GMT
#2232
Host WIFOM FTW :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:55 GMT
#2233
Haha... could be I guess
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 18:56 GMT
#2234
Well I don't really mind lynching VA either, but it could be better to lynch Onegu today. At least there's a decent chance that VA is actually JOAT based on those host "clues".
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 25 2014 18:58 GMT
#2235
Why the hell would I address SK suspicions? It's paranoid nonsense, and I'm surprised that so many people are buying into it.

For those who think I"m SK, answer me this: what is the difference between SK and Town play on Day 1? Because the answer is "nothing." There's literally every incentive for an SK to play completely normally and simply scumhunt. Perhaps you could pick up on someone being a bit too "survivalist", but does my play look like I"ve been concerned with my survival at all? I'll let the Rayn case speak for itself.

I know I haven't played a game in a while, but it's like my town game has been deified to the point where I'm never going to live up to the unrealistic expectations that people set for me. And there being an SK in this game is apparently the perfect outlet for those expectations.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 19:01 GMT
#2236
I agree with that point about pushing rayn. Btw I disagree with there being no difference between town/SK play... rayn was *very* different, passive/careful, as SK in one of the Titanic games.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 19:02 GMT
#2237
On August 26 2014 03:58 Hapahauli wrote:
Why the hell would I address SK suspicions? It's paranoid nonsense, and I'm surprised that so many people are buying into it.

For those who think I"m SK, answer me this: what is the difference between SK and Town play on Day 1? Because the answer is "nothing." There's literally every incentive for an SK to play completely normally and simply scumhunt. Perhaps you could pick up on someone being a bit too "survivalist", but does my play look like I"ve been concerned with my survival at all? I'll let the Rayn case speak for itself.

I know I haven't played a game in a while, but it's like my town game has been deified to the point where I'm never going to live up to the unrealistic expectations that people set for me. And there being an SK in this game is apparently the perfect outlet for those expectations.

Well, to be fair, a good portion of the best material is the fact that rayn was shot, which both happened during N1 and is SK-exclusive.

And no, we just expect you to be more insightful than you are, which is not deification by any means.
Writer@WriterYamato
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 25 2014 19:03 GMT
#2238
On August 26 2014 03:58 Hapahauli wrote:
Why the hell would I address SK suspicions? It's paranoid nonsense, and I'm surprised that so many people are buying into it.

For those who think I"m SK, answer me this: what is the difference between SK and Town play on Day 1? Because the answer is "nothing." There's literally every incentive for an SK to play completely normally and simply scumhunt. Perhaps you could pick up on someone being a bit too "survivalist", but does my play look like I"ve been concerned with my survival at all? I'll let the Rayn case speak for itself.

I know I haven't played a game in a while, but it's like my town game has been deified to the point where I'm never going to live up to the unrealistic expectations that people set for me. And there being an SK in this game is apparently the perfect outlet for those expectations.

Alright let's assume your Rayn case was actually good and not shit, as Rayn says.
What's your excuses for the shitty cases on me and Damdred?
Why do you back down immediately when resistance is shown?
Why haven't any of your cases been able to hold any water to the point where people should continually be following them?

I also don't think anyone ever questioned whether you were playing in a survivalist manner, either. I know I didn't. Of course you can play super town on D1. You can play super town all you want and not play survivalist at all when you know there's only one other KP and it's not likely to be directed at you when there are, say, two confirmed townies in the game and a hell of a lot more strong townies.

As far as your 'deified' towngame goes, you can ignore the meta stuff people are throwing at you whee we say 'this isn't like town Hapa' if you wish, but the fact remains, as supertown as you think you are, there are still glaring issues with your play.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 19:04 GMT
#2239
On August 26 2014 03:56 Xatalos wrote:
Well I don't really mind lynching VA either, but it could be better to lynch Onegu today. At least there's a decent chance that VA is actually JOAT based on those host "clues".

Actually, the clues make his claim worse. Why would there be such obvious clues in the rules/late-posted role PM to verify his claim in a closed setup?
Writer@WriterYamato
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 25 2014 19:04 GMT
#2240
On August 26 2014 04:01 Xatalos wrote:
I agree with that point about pushing rayn. Btw I disagree with there being no difference between town/SK play... rayn was *very* different, passive/careful, as SK in one of the Titanic games.

I've been shot N1 as 3P before for being way too towny and scaring the hell out of scum. Hapa's got a very nice balance imo and a lot of townier people to soak shots before scum would think of targeting him.
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