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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 25 2014 19:07 GMT
#2241
On August 26 2014 04:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 03:58 Hapahauli wrote:
Why the hell would I address SK suspicions? It's paranoid nonsense, and I'm surprised that so many people are buying into it.

For those who think I"m SK, answer me this: what is the difference between SK and Town play on Day 1? Because the answer is "nothing." There's literally every incentive for an SK to play completely normally and simply scumhunt. Perhaps you could pick up on someone being a bit too "survivalist", but does my play look like I"ve been concerned with my survival at all? I'll let the Rayn case speak for itself.

I know I haven't played a game in a while, but it's like my town game has been deified to the point where I'm never going to live up to the unrealistic expectations that people set for me. And there being an SK in this game is apparently the perfect outlet for those expectations.

Alright let's assume your Rayn case was actually good and not shit, as Rayn says.
What's your excuses for the shitty cases on me and Damdred?
Why do you back down immediately when resistance is shown?
Why haven't any of your cases been able to hold any water to the point where people should continually be following them?

I also don't think anyone ever questioned whether you were playing in a survivalist manner, either. I know I didn't. Of course you can play super town on D1. You can play super town all you want and not play survivalist at all when you know there's only one other KP and it's not likely to be directed at you when there are, say, two confirmed townies in the game and a hell of a lot more strong townies.

As far as your 'deified' towngame goes, you can ignore the meta stuff people are throwing at you whee we say 'this isn't like town Hapa' if you wish, but the fact remains, as supertown as you think you are, there are still glaring issues with your play.


You still haven't answered my question.
Let's assume I'm SK for a moment: why wouldn't I play completely normally and make sense?

I haven't played a serious game in a long time. If you're expecting me to be at the top of my game, well... that's flattering but pretty doubtful. Regardless, apparently I'm on my game enough to have my vote on mafia at the end of Day 1.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 25 2014 19:10 GMT
#2242
Like honestly, if I was SK, I would probably kill off the entire mafia team as fast as I could and let town WIFOM itself down to oblivion trying to find me with a perfect town alibi.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 19:11 GMT
#2243
The vote! I already talked about that too. You were scared of lynching me who was calling you 100% mafia and acting townish.
Writer@WriterYamato
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 25 2014 19:12 GMT
#2244
On August 26 2014 04:11 yamato77 wrote:
The vote! I already talked about that too. You were scared of lynching me who was calling you 100% mafia and acting townish.


So instead of getting rid of someone who was suspicious of me, I switched my votes 4 minutes before the deadline to lynch mafia.

Like. Really?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 25 2014 19:13 GMT
#2245
I swear to god this SK role is like fucking designed to make people paranoid of me.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 19:13 GMT
#2246
On August 26 2014 04:10 Hapahauli wrote:
Like honestly, if I was SK, I would probably kill off the entire mafia team as fast as I could and let town WIFOM itself down to oblivion trying to find me with a perfect town alibi.

Such WIFOM, many lies. Why wouldn't you just kill people dangerous to your survival like rayn?

Honestly, who else would kill rayn?
Writer@WriterYamato
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 25 2014 19:13 GMT
#2247
Rob was shenanigans though. nobody even was talking about him. Also why did you vote vayne when you had two people as stronger scum reads at the time
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 19:14 GMT
#2248
On August 26 2014 04:12 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 04:11 yamato77 wrote:
The vote! I already talked about that too. You were scared of lynching me who was calling you 100% mafia and acting townish.


So instead of getting rid of someone who was suspicious of me, I switched my votes 4 minutes before the deadline to lynch mafia.

Like. Really?

If I flip town and am calling you mafia with my last breath it looks bad.
Writer@WriterYamato
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 25 2014 19:16 GMT
#2249
On August 26 2014 04:13 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 04:10 Hapahauli wrote:
Like honestly, if I was SK, I would probably kill off the entire mafia team as fast as I could and let town WIFOM itself down to oblivion trying to find me with a perfect town alibi.

Such WIFOM, many lies. Why wouldn't you just kill people dangerous to your survival like rayn?

Honestly, who else would kill rayn?


He claimed cop. I'd assume a lot of people would justify killing him over that.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 25 2014 19:16 GMT
#2250
On August 26 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 04:12 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:11 yamato77 wrote:
The vote! I already talked about that too. You were scared of lynching me who was calling you 100% mafia and acting townish.


So instead of getting rid of someone who was suspicious of me, I switched my votes 4 minutes before the deadline to lynch mafia.

Like. Really?

If I flip town and am calling you mafia with my last breath it looks bad.


Doubt it. Do people tend to listen to you after you get lynched in your other games?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 19:17 GMT
#2251
On August 26 2014 04:16 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 04:13 yamato77 wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:10 Hapahauli wrote:
Like honestly, if I was SK, I would probably kill off the entire mafia team as fast as I could and let town WIFOM itself down to oblivion trying to find me with a perfect town alibi.

Such WIFOM, many lies. Why wouldn't you just kill people dangerous to your survival like rayn?

Honestly, who else would kill rayn?


He claimed cop. I'd assume a lot of people would justify killing him over that.

I don't think anyone took that seriously unless they were paranoid of rayn checking them, and who fits that bill?
Writer@WriterYamato
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 25 2014 19:18 GMT
#2252
This is honestly the most retarded discussion I've had in this game. And I"ve argued with JAT on Day 1.

Why are we running like idiots around paranoia of the SK when it's likely we wont have information to lynch SK until later? At a certain point, the SK's motivation changes from pro-town to pro-SK, and that's how you catch him.

We need to find mafia in the mean-time, and this discussion is literally the exact opposite of finding mafia.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 25 2014 19:19 GMT
#2253
On August 26 2014 04:17 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 04:16 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:13 yamato77 wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:10 Hapahauli wrote:
Like honestly, if I was SK, I would probably kill off the entire mafia team as fast as I could and let town WIFOM itself down to oblivion trying to find me with a perfect town alibi.

Such WIFOM, many lies. Why wouldn't you just kill people dangerous to your survival like rayn?

Honestly, who else would kill rayn?


He claimed cop. I'd assume a lot of people would justify killing him over that.

I don't think anyone took that seriously unless they were paranoid of rayn checking them, and who fits that bill?


I've played a lot of games with Rayn. Do you think I'd be paranoid of Rayn checking me? Or even believe that he was cop?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 19:19 GMT
#2254
On August 26 2014 04:16 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:12 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:11 yamato77 wrote:
The vote! I already talked about that too. You were scared of lynching me who was calling you 100% mafia and acting townish.


So instead of getting rid of someone who was suspicious of me, I switched my votes 4 minutes before the deadline to lynch mafia.

Like. Really?

If I flip town and am calling you mafia with my last breath it looks bad.


Doubt it. Do people tend to listen to you after you get lynched in your other games?

Why would you switch if not for that reason? Surely your read on Robik wasn't strong, was it? Or were you just trying to blend in?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 19:20 GMT
#2255
On August 26 2014 04:18 Hapahauli wrote:
This is honestly the most retarded discussion I've had in this game. And I"ve argued with JAT on Day 1.

Why are we running like idiots around paranoia of the SK when it's likely we wont have information to lynch SK until later? At a certain point, the SK's motivation changes from pro-town to pro-SK, and that's how you catch him.

We need to find mafia in the mean-time, and this discussion is literally the exact opposite of finding mafia.

Finding SK D2 is both possible and a good play. We know who he shot and if we kill him we halve anti - town KP.
Writer@WriterYamato
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 25 2014 19:20 GMT
#2256
On August 26 2014 04:19 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 04:16 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:12 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:11 yamato77 wrote:
The vote! I already talked about that too. You were scared of lynching me who was calling you 100% mafia and acting townish.


So instead of getting rid of someone who was suspicious of me, I switched my votes 4 minutes before the deadline to lynch mafia.

Like. Really?

If I flip town and am calling you mafia with my last breath it looks bad.


Doubt it. Do people tend to listen to you after you get lynched in your other games?

Why would you switch if not for that reason? Surely your read on Robik wasn't strong, was it? Or were you just trying to blend in?


What do you mean? Read Xatalos as town, read you as town. Therefore, better chance of literally anyone else being mafia.

You've seen me do many of these last-minute lynches before. Are you this dense?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 25 2014 19:20 GMT
#2257
On August 26 2014 04:20 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 04:18 Hapahauli wrote:
This is honestly the most retarded discussion I've had in this game. And I"ve argued with JAT on Day 1.

Why are we running like idiots around paranoia of the SK when it's likely we wont have information to lynch SK until later? At a certain point, the SK's motivation changes from pro-town to pro-SK, and that's how you catch him.

We need to find mafia in the mean-time, and this discussion is literally the exact opposite of finding mafia.

Finding SK D2 is both possible and a good play. We know who he shot and if we kill him we halve anti - town KP.


Ok you've gone off the NK WIFOM deep-end.

Yeah I'm done with this.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 25 2014 19:21 GMT
#2258
On August 26 2014 04:07 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 04:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 26 2014 03:58 Hapahauli wrote:
Why the hell would I address SK suspicions? It's paranoid nonsense, and I'm surprised that so many people are buying into it.

For those who think I"m SK, answer me this: what is the difference between SK and Town play on Day 1? Because the answer is "nothing." There's literally every incentive for an SK to play completely normally and simply scumhunt. Perhaps you could pick up on someone being a bit too "survivalist", but does my play look like I"ve been concerned with my survival at all? I'll let the Rayn case speak for itself.

I know I haven't played a game in a while, but it's like my town game has been deified to the point where I'm never going to live up to the unrealistic expectations that people set for me. And there being an SK in this game is apparently the perfect outlet for those expectations.

Alright let's assume your Rayn case was actually good and not shit, as Rayn says.
What's your excuses for the shitty cases on me and Damdred?
Why do you back down immediately when resistance is shown?
Why haven't any of your cases been able to hold any water to the point where people should continually be following them?

I also don't think anyone ever questioned whether you were playing in a survivalist manner, either. I know I didn't. Of course you can play super town on D1. You can play super town all you want and not play survivalist at all when you know there's only one other KP and it's not likely to be directed at you when there are, say, two confirmed townies in the game and a hell of a lot more strong townies.

As far as your 'deified' towngame goes, you can ignore the meta stuff people are throwing at you whee we say 'this isn't like town Hapa' if you wish, but the fact remains, as supertown as you think you are, there are still glaring issues with your play.


You still haven't answered my question.
Let's assume I'm SK for a moment: why wouldn't I play completely normally and make sense?

I haven't played a serious game in a long time. If you're expecting me to be at the top of my game, well... that's flattering but pretty doubtful. Regardless, apparently I'm on my game enough to have my vote on mafia at the end of Day 1.

Maybe you're right and you would play completely normally and make sense, except then of course scum would have you as a primary target, which I believe I already pointed out.

Want to answer my questions? If you're not playing completely normally and not making sense as you say yourself, then why, if you're town?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 19:21 GMT
#2259
On August 26 2014 04:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 04:17 yamato77 wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:16 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:13 yamato77 wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:10 Hapahauli wrote:
Like honestly, if I was SK, I would probably kill off the entire mafia team as fast as I could and let town WIFOM itself down to oblivion trying to find me with a perfect town alibi.

Such WIFOM, many lies. Why wouldn't you just kill people dangerous to your survival like rayn?

Honestly, who else would kill rayn?


He claimed cop. I'd assume a lot of people would justify killing him over that.

I don't think anyone took that seriously unless they were paranoid of rayn checking them, and who fits that bill?


I've played a lot of games with Rayn. Do you think I'd be paranoid of Rayn checking me? Or even believe that he was cop?

You would be if you were SK.
Writer@WriterYamato
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 25 2014 19:21 GMT
#2260
On August 26 2014 04:18 Hapahauli wrote:
This is honestly the most retarded discussion I've had in this game. And I"ve argued with JAT on Day 1.

Why are we running like idiots around paranoia of the SK when it's likely we wont have information to lynch SK until later? At a certain point, the SK's motivation changes from pro-town to pro-SK, and that's how you catch him.

We need to find mafia in the mean-time, and this discussion is literally the exact opposite of finding mafia.

Because there's not a whole lot else to do.
Do you want to lynch anyone outside of Onegu/VA?
If so, why?
If not, then stop bitching.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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