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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 19 2014 17:13 GMT
#501
These are the notes I started to take reading Dandre's filter:

Post 7 scummy --> some nonsense about rayn being a good player not trying to get n0'd. He's basically outting that he knows Rayns is town
Post 8 really sucks --> spends words to draw a null conclusion
Post 9 in conjunction with Post 11 suck --> He calls Yamato town and then says Xat is silly for giving yamato a town read pass
I guess my point on post 8 was brought up by Rayn, per Damdred's post 12
In post 12 he also says "you don't run me!" which is awkward


Reading on the phone and trying to quote is impossible and taking notes on the work PC to then email them to myself and copy paste them is a fucking bitch, which is why I gave up rereading him. Then there was the last post he made which wasn't terrible either
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 19 2014 17:17 GMT
#502
It just seems like his defense of me is so fucking baseless. He is hard defending me even though there's no real reason to do that. I'm not getting lynched today -- or ever this game -- and theres nothing that's super townie from me content wise. I'm mostly townie from the way I'm posting -- but I don't know that that's the reason that he's defending me since earlier he said that I shouldn't be touched based off of my explanation about my inability to post -- which was Gbs main point against me. At this point I feel like I'm just rambling, but hopefully someone will understand what I'm saying.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 19 2014 17:19 GMT
#503
I hate having to explain posts. context is important instead of just one shots would be cool.

one thing i will comment on is the post about me saying yam was town to calling xat silly for town. i had a if then type deal going on yam was town if he kept prescence up....yam didn't post for 12 hours probably after my post off tge top of my head so yea he was silly especially since he scum read him in a previous post
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 19 2014 17:21 GMT
#504
Rob gbs post sucked i attacked it their were better reasons to attack you instead of activity. attacking weak points isn't hard defending you butt no you shouldn't be touched for gbs early reasons
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 19 2014 17:28 GMT
#505
robik, you're not above the whole "i'm unlynchable townie lololol" shtick as scum, so stop it
Writer@WriterYamato
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 19 2014 17:30 GMT
#506
On August 20 2014 00:59 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 00:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 20 2014 00:44 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 20 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 20 2014 00:26 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 20 2014 00:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 19 2014 23:59 geript wrote:
On August 19 2014 23:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 19 2014 23:52 Xatalos wrote:
On August 19 2014 23:34 geript wrote:
[quote]
Xat's right. Like 9 hours to go and it's like 1-1-1 or something. No lynch is not an option here. I'll consolidate on any of Dandruff, poofter or Giggles (but either of the latter is preferable). Get your shit together people.


It's plurality lynch though so consolidation isn't as crucial. In fact it might be better to have 2 competing wagons, like GB/Tehpoofter. That would provide more info. At the moment I'm leaning slightly more on GB since Tehpoofter feels so similar to his last towngame (even that marry/bang post is pretty identical to that game haha - although maybe he posted that since I was looking at his earlier game...).


Why do you scumread me and poof, exactly?

Why exactly does it matter?


It matters because he did not give a solid read to his scumreads. He is only voting for me because my reads are "static/forced"? He doesn't like poofs n0, but I read no reasoning on his posts. He needs to show us his grounds on his scumreads.
I can not explain myself when I don't understand why I'm being voted for exactly. I had a scumread on Robik and I'm pushingh on him. I specifically asked him to talk about you but he talked about four people but did not give a read on you. He town read oats because he is "obviously town" and all people that played with him should know that (?)


Actually this doesn't matter at all. He's given 4 town reads out of like 8 players. You and banks not being town reads logically makes you mafia reads


Last time I checked, 8-4=4, not 2

Do you seriously think that lynching people without having at least a gut feeling that they're mafia is okay?
God, how can I NOT scumread you?

You can start by learning how to play the game. But you're probably just mafia


I thought it was a game where town should kill mafia by giving reasons why people are mafia, not befriending other townies by sitting back and saying "lol obv town lol you scum, if you don't agree you have to l2p"
I won't take my vote off of you today.


Stop it GB and get off your tunnel right now, ROB is not geting lynched and your vote might be needed on a real wagon right now


Like you're being so contradictory.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 19 2014 17:31 GMT
#507
On August 20 2014 02:28 yamato77 wrote:
robik, you're not above the whole "i'm unlynchable townie lololol" shtick as scum, so stop it

Yes I am. I wouldn't pull that shit as scum until the way most perfect game. It's going to be 2 years down the line when nobody sees it coming. In an all-star invite-only game
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 19 2014 17:32 GMT
#508
On August 20 2014 01:40 Damdred wrote:
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On August 20 2014 00:54 Xatalos wrote:
Hm yeah, possibly. I'm fine with lynching Tehpoofter today. I can't think of much anything he's done so far despite his somewhat large filter.

##Unvote
##Vote Tehpoofter


And I hate this vote, if the only reason poof gets lynched to you is because he hasn't done much by your standard...we would be lynching you today Xata, you have an insanely long filter but I can't remember a ton of what you did and most of your reads have been one sentence or longer so please do more stuff cause i'm getting suspicious of you right now


You can't really compare me and Tehpoofter. Most of Tehpoofter's filter is posts like "your usefulness is unbound" or "that's such a contribution", absolutely useless one-liners that may even affect the town atmosphere negatively. I've went through his filter before and I still can't think of anything he's done for town from the top of my head, even if he has one of the longer filters. I'll have to look through it again, but nothing really comes to mind when I think about him. Oh, there's the marry/bang post, but it lacked reads on some players and the scumreads were pretty much baseless. Sorry Tehpoofter, I know you wanted to marry me :/

Btw I don't really feel bad about the way the wagon is going. I can easily see all of the current voters being town so it's not like it's going too easily.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 19 2014 17:32 GMT
#509
On August 20 2014 02:31 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 02:28 yamato77 wrote:
robik, you're not above the whole "i'm unlynchable townie lololol" shtick as scum, so stop it

Yes I am. I wouldn't pull that shit as scum until the way most perfect game. It's going to be 2 years down the line when nobody sees it coming. In an all-star invite-only game

I've seen you do it already

don't lie
Writer@WriterYamato
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 19 2014 17:33 GMT
#510
On August 20 2014 01:30 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 05:14 geript wrote:
On August 19 2014 05:07 Xatalos wrote:
So geript, both yamato and me ended up in your scumpile but disappeared by your following post? Or we two are just lesser reads?

yam is always scum. wasn't really look for scum but for who's town. Rayn's post actually had me rethinking about you and the more you posted the more I liked.


Actually i'm really confused now all of this ray town read Xata when all he said about xata was or his most recent posting before death

Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 19:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Should be ending now.

scum: Damdred, idk...
fishy: Oats (because he is making sense), Xatalos (i would expect more from him so far)
town: GB, yamato
dunno: Robik, geript


so i'm not understanding why rays posting would have him rethinking his scum read when he generally trusts rays reads...its just strange and implies that ray townread xata more of this later

I think you're missing the points I've made; specifically so regarding Xata. Here's the train of thought that I had; I think I already explained this but maybe just so in my own head.

On August 20 2014 01:30 Damdred wrote:I'm going to ignore the part about me here people can disect it if they want. I want to talk about GB first I really feel like the post he quotes isn't scummy at all for what was going on in the thread at the time and it could be taken out of context and shown as scummy. And he claims to trust rays reads....but ray had GB as town hrm.

So are you saying that I took the GB quote out of context or just that I could have? Are you saying that I'm not 100% following rayn's reads therefore I'm not town?

On August 20 2014 01:30 Damdred wrote:Point three about poof just doesn't make sense, and i'd rather him not be hunting for town. He should be hunting for scum. I hate this stupd stupid stupid timing read meta shit that he keeps bringing up its crappy and honestly stupid. Its not indicative of mafia or town at all and him claiming poof said he was trying to emulate his town game is just...honestly a lie or a misinterpretation of what poof actually said since he was talking about two seperate games he played with marv when explaining what this shit was to me. And then he continues to spout it to gain poof lynch support.

For point 3, anyone who knows Banks knows that his primary reason for hating being hypno'd in video (when you have to state your role at the beginning of the day truthfully) is that it completely disables him from being able to fakeclaim and wifom mafia. He in part plays to ego and in part plays to have fun. So him not doing that is exceptionally out of sorts with what he normally does as town. As for not town hunting... why? Do you realize that town reads always have a significantly higher correct percentage than scum reads? Do you realize that in a super small game like this that process of elimination reads are exceptionally easy to make and the more town you find the less you need to look for mafia? Like if you're town and you find 3 other town, then you can almost lynch indiscriminately among the rest.

My question is that both you and Poofy have come in and completely shit on what other people are saying and tried to disrupt people from actually forming town reads on each other yet haven't given any actual reasons for why you're doing that. WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT?????

On August 20 2014 01:30 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 23:59 geript wrote:
On August 19 2014 23:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 19 2014 23:52 Xatalos wrote:
On August 19 2014 23:34 geript wrote:
On August 18 2014 20:01 Palmar wrote:
Day 1


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raynpelikoneet the cop is dead




Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 19 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Any vote cast after 22:59 GMT (+00:00) will not be counted.

Xat's right. Like 9 hours to go and it's like 1-1-1 or something. No lynch is not an option here. I'll consolidate on any of Dandruff, poofter or Giggles (but either of the latter is preferable). Get your shit together people.


It's plurality lynch though so consolidation isn't as crucial. In fact it might be better to have 2 competing wagons, like GB/Tehpoofter. That would provide more info. At the moment I'm leaning slightly more on GB since Tehpoofter feels so similar to his last towngame (even that marry/bang post is pretty identical to that game haha - although maybe he posted that since I was looking at his earlier game...).


Why do you scumread me and poof, exactly?

Why exactly does it matter?


Of course yoru reads on why you scum read people matter, or in this case have an illusion of scum reading people where you take stuff out of context to make them look scummy lie about what people actually say to make them look scummy and have people spouting off he gave good reads....he hasn't done jack shit but just has the appearance of it.

Why are you missing the point here? I asked GB why Xata having a scumread on him and poof mattered. Cliff notes it doesn't. GB should have at least 3 town reads by now; I haven't looked recently but iirc he has oats as town at least. I don't get why he needs to find out why Xat has a scumread on him. He can just find town and then lynch out of the rest. He's not likely to Xat's scumread on him. He discuss poofter or the person that Xat is townreading that GB isn't. Xat's read on GB is completely irrelevant and won't help GB (if he's town) figure out Xat's alignment.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 19 2014 17:34 GMT
#511
I like being town. I like solving the game. I don't enjoy being mafia. So when I'm town I will continue to use this as a way to clear myself because then I don't have to worry about anything but solving the game. And other townies won't have to worry about me either because they'll just know I'm town. Marv agrees with me too
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 19 2014 17:36 GMT
#512
On August 20 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:
Post 9 in conjunction with Post 11 suck --> He calls Yamato town and then says Xat is silly for giving yamato a town read pass
I guess my point on post 8 was brought up by Rayn, per Damdred's post 12

This is probably the most damning thing though. I'm going to go back and reread him more carefully though.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 19 2014 17:39 GMT
#513
Oh and Yam, I'm mostly ignoring you for obvious reasons, but I fully expect you to explain why you think that Banks is the only person we're going to consider lynching today. You could of course just say that you're sheeping me because I'm the most awesomest player to ever play the game of mafia.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 19 2014 17:42 GMT
#514
On August 20 2014 02:32 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 02:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 20 2014 02:28 yamato77 wrote:
robik, you're not above the whole "i'm unlynchable townie lololol" shtick as scum, so stop it

Yes I am. I wouldn't pull that shit as scum until the way most perfect game. It's going to be 2 years down the line when nobody sees it coming. In an all-star invite-only game

I've seen you do it already

don't lie

Pretty sure it's never happened. In face I talk about it in both of my town games on vendetta starda. Plus, I don't night kill rayn, so me being mafia is absolutely implausible
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 19 2014 17:43 GMT
#515
I looked at Tehpoofter's filter again and he hasn't even voted yet... I really hope he comes back soon and does something. The last page of his filter was pretty much just noise that didn't have any purpose for finding scum (except the weird toneread on Robik and saying that Robik is a good scumplayer so he could be scum...).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 19 2014 17:45 GMT
#516
Btw there was a ton of "tonereading" on Vendetta Strada but I can't really put much weigh on it unless you're some sort of an extraordinary tonereader or you can convincingly explain the toneread.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 19 2014 17:46 GMT
#517
On August 20 2014 02:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 02:32 yamato77 wrote:
On August 20 2014 02:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 20 2014 02:28 yamato77 wrote:
robik, you're not above the whole "i'm unlynchable townie lololol" shtick as scum, so stop it

Yes I am. I wouldn't pull that shit as scum until the way most perfect game. It's going to be 2 years down the line when nobody sees it coming. In an all-star invite-only game

I've seen you do it already

don't lie

Pretty sure it's never happened. In face I talk about it in both of my town games on vendetta starda. Plus, I don't night kill rayn, so me being mafia is absolutely implausible

I swear to god if I'm goddamn wrong about my townread on you this game I will fucking never lynch anyone but you ever again. This would be like the fifth or sixth game in a row that I would have read you wrong. It would also be par for the course for you making a comment like this. fucking dammit I probably need to reread everything again instead of just dandruff.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 19 2014 17:50 GMT
#518
The game feels a bit too easy if the scumteam is Tehpoofter/GB/Damdred so I guess there's probably a scum somewhere among my townreads. I think there's a very high chance of hitting scum when lynching into this group however. Like 80-90%.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 19 2014 17:54 GMT
#519
Robik and geript I feel are very strongly town. Just look at the way they naturally participate in the discussion and evaluate scumreads. yamato is probably town too (just because his scumplay is so abysmal from my experience), although I'd like him to put in a bit more effort, and Oats I'm not completely sure about but he's been posting and I didn't see anything scummy from him. So that just leaves Tehpoofter/GB/Damdred atm.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 19 2014 17:57 GMT
#520
On August 20 2014 02:36 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:
Post 9 in conjunction with Post 11 suck --> He calls Yamato town and then says Xat is silly for giving yamato a town read pass
I guess my point on post 8 was brought up by Rayn, per Damdred's post 12

This is probably the most damning thing though. I'm going to go back and reread him more carefully though.


I think he gave a somewhat plausible explanation to this though. Something about yamato lurking for a while by then so I shouldn't townread him so easily. Still it's weird to focus on something like that when he didn't even scumread yamato.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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