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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 19 2014 20:08 GMT
#541
On August 20 2014 05:02 IAmRobik wrote:
Everything that you post is so fucking nonsensical. Why would you eat crow if you're "wrong on poof" if you're not even convinced that he's town. You take these absurd, unjustified stances all the time. I don't fucking get it. If you're town you're going to have to explain yourself after the game ends and then I'll berate you for an hour or so about how you play is illogical and you need to check yourself before you get into the ring with me again


You've been useless this game so i won't take any shit from you. You talk all high and mighty but god dangit you have sure let me down this game talking about how you are just going to sheep someone day one and then figure out the game day two paraphrase. You are so frustrating so go on and berate me and of course i'll eat crow if he flips mafia and i'm attacking the meta used cause i would be wrong.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 19 2014 20:11 GMT
#542
Still at work. Skimmed through posts. I still need an answer: cop checks are given already at night or just at dawn?
When is the deadline.

Xatalos this is too early in the game. Why are you asking so much for a gun shot? If the gunner misses mafia we will face LYLO really fast.
I'm adorable.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 19 2014 20:11 GMT
#543
On August 20 2014 05:01 geript wrote:
[quote=Damdred]Ok so his first real post in the thread is a list post, it looks big and good but a lot of it is no analysis really or spotty analysis at best. Also him pulling my post that he says is odd is strange its not my most scummy post by far up to this point oats got me on that one. Subsequently he has little follow up with a lot of this and some of these posts aren't as scummy in context as they appear.

This is the first thing that you came out with against me. It's also literally like the fourth or fifth time someone said something similar. You've proceeded to shit on the absolutely correct way to approach this game: Find town, organize with town, lynch everyone else.

You're attacking actual meta on Poof? Are you serious? Like why completely ignore something that's both true and nobody here has disagreed with. Lots of people have played with Banks. Lots of people COULD argue those points. They aren't. Do you think that the scum team is something like Me/Yam/Robik/Xat/Oats? Like that's 5 people. If I'm scum at least 2 of those people would HAVE to be town and aren't disagreeing with those points. I've never said all my points are right or great or amazing. Perhaps you've heard of my reputation that quite often Marv or Palmer or whoever else beat down specific points where I miss things or read things wrong or whatever else. Why are you so staunch that my good points are completely fallacious? It seems to me that all you're set on is trying to paint me as badly as possible. Hell if I wanted I could do that same for you. I'm literally not convinced you're scum, but the more obstinent you become for literally no reason pushes me towards that despite the fact that I ID* find somewhat towny things in your filter. I literally don't get it.[/QUOTE]

My freaking god your not convinced i'm scum?!? I couldn't tell otherwise after a certain point after you said I could be town you sprinkled every single post with but Damdred could be freaking mafia and you put it in almost every single post so yea I think your mafia and i'm leaning mafia on Xat now because he has this huge filter that is completely useless almost and fluff every read he gives is a one sentence shot thats mostly "Oh I think hes town" well thats great. I don't have a third lean yet i'm still trying to figure that out but right the fuck now i'm really frustrated at this damn game because only like four people are even goin to be here for dead line and yea i'm just going to walk away for a bit
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 19 2014 20:14 GMT
#544
Wow I guess I'm just getting shittier at forum mafia. :/

I'm town. Robik knows it thats why he made the post about wanting to switch to dandred.

I need to read shit as I just made a skim from what I missed since last night.

Can someone tell me briefly why they think I'm mafia?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 19 2014 20:15 GMT
#545
##Vote Geript

I forgot to do this last night before I went to bed. He is the one who wasn't around to use the shitty witch power and I don't think it was used or we would have seen 2 kills or something I imagine.

Palmar's vote counts suck cause they don't have time until EoD. :/
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 19 2014 20:19 GMT
#546
On August 20 2014 05:11 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 05:01 geript wrote:
[quote=Damdred]Ok so his first real post in the thread is a list post, it looks big and good but a lot of it is no analysis really or spotty analysis at best. Also him pulling my post that he says is odd is strange its not my most scummy post by far up to this point oats got me on that one. Subsequently he has little follow up with a lot of this and some of these posts aren't as scummy in context as they appear.

This is the first thing that you came out with against me. It's also literally like the fourth or fifth time someone said something similar. You've proceeded to shit on the absolutely correct way to approach this game: Find town, organize with town, lynch everyone else.

You're attacking actual meta on Poof? Are you serious? Like why completely ignore something that's both true and nobody here has disagreed with. Lots of people have played with Banks. Lots of people COULD argue those points. They aren't. Do you think that the scum team is something like Me/Yam/Robik/Xat/Oats? Like that's 5 people. If I'm scum at least 2 of those people would HAVE to be town and aren't disagreeing with those points. I've never said all my points are right or great or amazing. Perhaps you've heard of my reputation that quite often Marv or Palmer or whoever else beat down specific points where I miss things or read things wrong or whatever else. Why are you so staunch that my good points are completely fallacious? It seems to me that all you're set on is trying to paint me as badly as possible. Hell if I wanted I could do that same for you. I'm literally not convinced you're scum, but the more obstinent you become for literally no reason pushes me towards that despite the fact that I ID* find somewhat towny things in your filter. I literally don't get it.


My freaking god your not convinced i'm scum?!? I couldn't tell otherwise after a certain point after you said I could be town you sprinkled every single post with but Damdred could be freaking mafia and you put it in almost every single post so yea I think your mafia and i'm leaning mafia on Xat now because he has this huge filter that is completely useless almost and fluff every read he gives is a one sentence shot thats mostly "Oh I think hes town" well thats great. I don't have a third lean yet i'm still trying to figure that out but right the fuck now i'm really frustrated at this damn game because only like four people are even goin to be here for dead line and yea i'm just going to walk away for a bit[/QUOTE]
No I'm not convinced you were or are scum. Hence the reason once I narrowed down who my town was I voted you since you were from memory the most likely to be scum and rayn had his read on you. Then I read your filter, thought that you could be town. I read GB and Banks. Banks was the most likely to be scum so I voted for him. Like I'm pretty sure Robik wants to lynch you. Xat I bet could be pushed to lynch you. Like if I were more sure that you were scum over Banks, then I'd be heavily pushing you. But each time I go back to read your filter I'm not sure. Like you hit a lot of "scum points" but I'm not sure you're actually scum. I'm a player myself who has a history at points of hitting the right "points" for the wrong "reasons." Hell Prome's case on how to tell when I'm town (the definitive case on me) includes that exact phrase IIRC. Like I do what I think is right despite what anyone fucking else thinks. So yah.

Look I get the frustration. There's a bunch of people I'm not currently happy with. But at least we're lynching one of the shitty lurkers who's added nothing. That at least makes me feel a little better at the end of the day.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 19 2014 20:19 GMT
#547
On August 20 2014 05:15 Tehpoofter wrote:
##Vote Geript

I forgot to do this last night before I went to bed. He is the one who wasn't around to use the shitty witch power and I don't think it was used or we would have seen 2 kills or something I imagine.

Palmar's vote counts suck cause they don't have time until EoD. :/

sick delurk bro
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 19 2014 20:31 GMT
#548
Damdred, how did you go from this:

On August 18 2014 23:03 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man I dont understand this part at all Damdred.
also just by reading the thread it looks like Xatalos would have the biggest filter day one so even if I did feel hes scummy I wouldn't push a lynch on him at this point its more town xat.

Why big filter = town and why wont you push him if you think he is scummy regardless of his filter?

buddy much?


Town Xatalos posts a lot and posts whatever hes thinking whenever in my experience with him. His filter size shows if hes being towny. And what i've noticed hes been pretty open about his reads and opinions isn't scared to be wrong and always tries to explain his thought process. And generally its always a bad idea to lynch into the people with the biggest filters day one normally they aren't mafia, if his play tapers off and he starts to lurk i'll rethink it but i don't think hes a good lynch for day one at all.

And Xat it did feel like you were just sheeping what Ray was saying at first but looking back over the thread I thought it was pretty consitant with what you been saying. So it was probably more of a reaction to being called mafia at this point, so yea i'm pretty town on you right now.


To this:

On August 20 2014 05:11 Damdred wrote:
i'm leaning mafia on Xat now because he has this huge filter that is completely useless almost and fluff every read he gives is a one sentence shot thats mostly "Oh I think hes town" well thats great.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 19 2014 20:31 GMT
#549
On August 19 2014 13:39 geript wrote:
Since I'm finally home, I'll explain a few points on poofy:
1. The timing thing. Whether or not I'm right on what Marv saw is beside the point. Banks flat out stated he thought he knew what the timing thing was and is trying to emulate his town play. Who the fuck tries to emulate their town play as town????
2. Banks has only pushed me as mafia when he's mafia. He also very much tends to do it at Lylo or right before Lylo. This is classic scum banks.
3. Banks fucking loves to wifom fake claim as town. He has like 2 posts about being cop after Rayn did it and nothing else. He's not playing for that fun factor at all which is super scummy for him.
4. He has no interest whatsoever in actually finding town. Rather he's focus on asking questions and doing jack shit until he actually picked up suspicion.

EZPZ is scum would lynch

As for GB, he's struggled to post. He had a pretty worthless entrance and then there was this gem of a post:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 10:43 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 18 2014 10:33 Tehpoofter wrote:
I want it to be day 1 already lol. I feel like n0 is going insanely slow. Maybe because Palmar started it so late for the Euros but I want to get this shit going!!


I also want to get this going but I have no idea how to start a trend. I've brought suspicions on Rayn but people dropped it fast so... Yeah.

This is really odd. He's lost as to what he can do as town? Did he forget he could reread or go through filters? Like that's super scummy. Plus he reads me as super town but has no clue about my reads on people. Wtf?

On Dandruff. Rayn had the scumread on him and Rayn's reads early are quite good. His read on Xat was super early and almost mystical; too good for when it came. And as he progressed he softened the read from town to maybe town to more likely to be town but like 55%. How essentially detatched and idk "plAying nice" he's being rubs me the wrong way. Plus it's weird that he's able to find town reads on people but that doesn't push him to think: "if these people (Xat/Oats) are town, then the three scum must be in those other 5 so let me look at them closely."


I was saying before I emulated my scum timing as town that game I'm not doing anything regarding the timing cause Marv isn't in the game. I would naturally do my town things as town so no reason to emulate them.

I've pushed you being mafia as town before the huge game where you were claiming vigi out of the gate I thought you were mafia early is the first one that comes to mind.

I claimed cop during n0 and didn't actually claim it that much because I was hoping not claiming it as much would get me read as cop and possibly witched.

I have given my reads when they came up. I take what the thread gives me and I can link you my reads post if you wish not sure what you're meaning by me not trying to find town is scummy. I've been asking questions and trying to get interactions but there hasn't been much. 9 player game=less likely people are around I love the interaction side of things more than anything for reads.

Geript Have you found what I post to be scummy? Like your first 3 things really don't have to do with my posts you don't even quote any as scummy its just frankly stuff you're misrepresenting at best or making up at worst
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 19 2014 20:32 GMT
#550
On August 20 2014 05:19 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 05:15 Tehpoofter wrote:
##Vote Geript

I forgot to do this last night before I went to bed. He is the one who wasn't around to use the shitty witch power and I don't think it was used or we would have seen 2 kills or something I imagine.

Palmar's vote counts suck cause they don't have time until EoD. :/

sick delurk bro


Thanks although delurk should read desleep
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 19 2014 20:34 GMT
#551
On August 20 2014 05:15 Tehpoofter wrote:
##Vote Geript

I forgot to do this last night before I went to bed. He is the one who wasn't around to use the shitty witch power and I don't think it was used or we would have seen 2 kills or something I imagine.

Palmar's vote counts suck cause they don't have time until EoD. :/


This is the worst reason for a vote I've seen in a while.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 19 2014 20:36 GMT
#552
You were not town that game banks. Pretty sure about that.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 19 2014 20:36 GMT
#553
I don't think the Shitty Witch power was used either but:

1) Usually anyone in the scumteam can order the abilities as needed
2) That's far from the only reason for the ability not being used
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 19 2014 20:37 GMT
#554
On August 20 2014 05:36 geript wrote:
You were not town that game banks. Pretty sure about that.


Can you link? I'm pretty sure I was. Wasn't it the Golden Sun game?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 19 2014 20:37 GMT
#555
Btw it would be the ultimate irony if Tehpoofter was the Shitty Witch
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 19 2014 20:38 GMT
#556
On August 20 2014 05:37 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 05:36 geript wrote:
You were not town that game banks. Pretty sure about that.


Can you link? I'm pretty sure I was. Wasn't it the Golden Sun game?

I think it was golden sun. Not 100%.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 19 2014 20:39 GMT
#557
On August 20 2014 05:36 Xatalos wrote:
I don't think the Shitty Witch power was used either but:

1) Usually anyone in the scumteam can order the abilities as needed
2) That's far from the only reason for the ability not being used


Who here wouldn't use the power. I know I would Rob for fuck sure would have. I feel like GB/Damdred would have. Oats the only reason he wouldnt is because he was getting the universal town read.

Yamato I feel also would Yolo. Maybe I'm making too much out of nothing but that power is the ONLY Reason I joined this game because it was awesome and really mad for a different game and whoever had it didn't use it I don't think which makes me want to lynch them EVEN MORE than any of the other mafia. Like if mafia just gives up their witch I'm down cause that was a giant waste not to.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 19 2014 20:41 GMT
#558
On August 20 2014 05:37 Xatalos wrote:
Btw it would be the ultimate irony if Tehpoofter was the Shitty Witch


I would have used it 100000000000000%

I'm vanilla town. You're voting for a mafia btw.

Like i'm pretty sure geript is scum by the way he is using his meat on me. GB lurking is odd as was what Yamato said about him if he is actually scum.

I still haven't caught up but this is the same as the last game. I'm going to stand around and defend myself while scum is afk and convince the town that are around that I'm town I just hope enough of them are here to switch to someone who might be scum.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 19 2014 20:41 GMT
#559
On August 20 2014 05:38 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 05:37 Tehpoofter wrote:
On August 20 2014 05:36 geript wrote:
You were not town that game banks. Pretty sure about that.


Can you link? I'm pretty sure I was. Wasn't it the Golden Sun game?

I think it was golden sun. Not 100%.


I was town at the start of golden sun when I was calling you mafia I got converted on n1.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 19 2014 20:44 GMT
#560
On August 20 2014 05:19 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 05:11 Damdred wrote:
On August 20 2014 05:01 geript wrote:
[quote=Damdred]Ok so his first real post in the thread is a list post, it looks big and good but a lot of it is no analysis really or spotty analysis at best. Also him pulling my post that he says is odd is strange its not my most scummy post by far up to this point oats got me on that one. Subsequently he has little follow up with a lot of this and some of these posts aren't as scummy in context as they appear.

This is the first thing that you came out with against me. It's also literally like the fourth or fifth time someone said something similar. You've proceeded to shit on the absolutely correct way to approach this game: Find town, organize with town, lynch everyone else.

You're attacking actual meta on Poof? Are you serious? Like why completely ignore something that's both true and nobody here has disagreed with. Lots of people have played with Banks. Lots of people COULD argue those points. They aren't. Do you think that the scum team is something like Me/Yam/Robik/Xat/Oats? Like that's 5 people. If I'm scum at least 2 of those people would HAVE to be town and aren't disagreeing with those points. I've never said all my points are right or great or amazing. Perhaps you've heard of my reputation that quite often Marv or Palmer or whoever else beat down specific points where I miss things or read things wrong or whatever else. Why are you so staunch that my good points are completely fallacious? It seems to me that all you're set on is trying to paint me as badly as possible. Hell if I wanted I could do that same for you. I'm literally not convinced you're scum, but the more obstinent you become for literally no reason pushes me towards that despite the fact that I ID* find somewhat towny things in your filter. I literally don't get it.


My freaking god your not convinced i'm scum?!? I couldn't tell otherwise after a certain point after you said I could be town you sprinkled every single post with but Damdred could be freaking mafia and you put it in almost every single post so yea I think your mafia and i'm leaning mafia on Xat now because he has this huge filter that is completely useless almost and fluff every read he gives is a one sentence shot thats mostly "Oh I think hes town" well thats great. I don't have a third lean yet i'm still trying to figure that out but right the fuck now i'm really frustrated at this damn game because only like four people are even goin to be here for dead line and yea i'm just going to walk away for a bit

No I'm not convinced you were or are scum. Hence the reason once I narrowed down who my town was I voted you since you were from memory the most likely to be scum and rayn had his read on you. Then I read your filter, thought that you could be town. I read GB and Banks. Banks was the most likely to be scum so I voted for him. Like I'm pretty sure Robik wants to lynch you. Xat I bet could be pushed to lynch you. Like if I were more sure that you were scum over Banks, then I'd be heavily pushing you. But each time I go back to read your filter I'm not sure. Like you hit a lot of "scum points" but I'm not sure you're actually scum. I'm a player myself who has a history at points of hitting the right "points" for the wrong "reasons." Hell Prome's case on how to tell when I'm town (the definitive case on me) includes that exact phrase IIRC. Like I do what I think is right despite what anyone fucking else thinks. So yah.

Look I get the frustration. There's a bunch of people I'm not currently happy with. But at least we're lynching one of the shitty lurkers who's added nothing. That at least makes me feel a little better at the end of the day. [/QUOTE]


HAHAHA you're not even calling me mafia here just saying I'm a shitty lurker. You're basically pre-justifying my misslynch for when i lynch town you can say "Lol well banks was just a shitty lurker." I've just been around at times where not many have. I'm here lets talk now so you can read my correctly or at least look DUMB AS HELL for voting for me if you're mafia and want to still push this miss lynch.
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