Arnie got his gun mafia. - Page 24

On August 19 2014 10:47 Tehpoofter wrote:


the 2nd part of what you said was the answer to the question I cared about thanks.

Marv has some timing read on me he's never said what it is he used it one game and it was right I think but another game he had it and I was trying to play at specific times so I think I know the read and I'm not actually following it so its weird that geript says it unless I'm totally misunderstanding what MArv read me for.

On August 20 2014 00:11 GlowingBear wrote:


It matters because he did not give a solid read to his scumreads. He is only voting for me because my reads are "static/forced"? He doesn't like poofs n0, but I read no reasoning on his posts. He needs to show us his grounds on his scumreads.
I can not explain myself when I don't understand why I'm being voted for exactly. I had a scumread on Robik and I'm pushingh on him. I specifically asked him to talk about you but he talked about four people but did not give a read on you. He town read oats because he is "obviously town" and all people that played with him should know that (?)

On August 20 2014 00:11 GlowingBear wrote:


It matters because he did not give a solid read to his scumreads. He is only voting for me because my reads are "static/forced"? He doesn't like poofs n0, but I read no reasoning on his posts. He needs to show us his grounds on his scumreads.
I can not explain myself when I don't understand why I'm being voted for exactly. I had a scumread on Robik and I'm pushingh on him. I specifically asked him to talk about you but he talked about four people but did not give a read on you. He town read oats because he is "obviously town" and all people that played with him should know that (?)

On August 20 2014 00:26 IAmRobik wrote:


Actually this doesn't matter at all. He's given 4 town reads out of like 8 players. You and banks not being town reads logically makes you mafia reads

On August 20 2014 00:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Seriously nobody is looking into damdred as possible scum? ? ?

Xata, what changed your mind?

On August 20 2014 00:35 Xatalos wrote:


He may be scum, I just don't like lynching him right now as much as before. He reacted to pressure by posting a lot of original content and participating in the discussion - granted, it was in large part about townreading me, so maybe I'm a bit biased. At least I think his thoughts regarding me were correct. What I don't like is how he just casually threw some suspicion on GB and didn't really pursue the issue himself.

On August 20 2014 00:32 Damdred wrote:
Xata what do you think of Geript?

On August 20 2014 00:35 Xatalos wrote:


He may be scum, I just don't like lynching him right now as much as before. He reacted to pressure by posting a lot of original content and participating in the discussion - granted, it was in large part about townreading me, so maybe I'm a bit biased. At least I think his thoughts regarding me were correct. What I don't like is how he just casually threw some suspicion on GB and didn't really pursue the issue himself.

On August 19 2014 01:38 Damdred wrote:
GB, while i agree its weird that Rob is lurking and spamming he thread like he normally would he did explain that his work blocked the webpages and he will be able to be more critical when he is at home. I want to give him that chance, because it is weird having a non spammy rob.

But its not alignment indicative also. Also GB do you really think Rob is the best vote today?

On August 19 2014 01:57 Damdred wrote:


Actually your case draws strength from rob not being rob like atleast thats what it seems. Rob pointing out a scummy post by you doesn't show that hes scummy infact he wasn't the first person really to draw attention your way, and hes told the thread about his posting issues so I really don't think you have a case.

On August 19 2014 02:11 Damdred wrote:


It doesn't matter who the first wagon is honestly either you think i'm town or you don't. I didn't say Rob wasn't mafia I said your case was anon case and you should give him time to get home and be more critical to see if he acts normal or not. I'd say from his limited postings I don't see a lot of anything scummy about what he has posted.

Right now it's hard for me to ignore Yamato since he hasn't posted, but its still early in day one and certain people haven't posted at all. There just is not a lot to go on, got a few town leans right now, and you seem weird to me right now GB. You have thrown suspicion on several players, and when some pressure was added to you, you honestly threw some more suspicion and left the thread/lurked until recently when you decided to jump on Rob. Just is weird for you right now

On August 19 2014 03:32 Damdred wrote:
Right now you have two wagons GB, Rob and Damdred (go me),

To me neither wagon seems really strong one is based off of a sorta meta read where rob isn't being his normal rob self, he explained it well before you posted that his work blocked websites and hes slower than normal and not able to play as critically as when hes at home, yet you vote for him (granted i been playing in a lot of IML games so votes don't have as big of impact). You use the same excuse as Rob does that you can't post as much or quote as much since you are on the phone most of the time and you find him lurky. Neither of these reasons seem really hard enough for a vote or a good case. If someone else gave this case GB would you find it a good enough case to vote for?

Your Damdred case (or case on me XD) revolves around one of my first posts that I made shortly after getting off a long shift. I rightfully got attacked on it. This case is better than Robs case that it is a weird post but it seems to neglect a lot of the content that came after the day 1 start. Looking at the day and how its went and participation would you vote for this case over rob?

Would you vote for either of these cases or would you look elsewhere or at the person presenting the cases GB? To me neither case makes much sense and just feels like flinging stuff until you find something that sticks. And I don't like it don't like it at all. Also you cast some doubt on ray and its a good tactic mafia would use to distance themselves from the ray kill, so even though Xat would say why would they do this I can see it.

On August 19 2014 03:33 Damdred wrote:
Also gb i forgot to ask whats up with the lurkers? Almost everyone has commented on them and of course I don't want them to lurk and nobody does since we can't get good reads and it will make lylo really hard if one of them makes it

On August 20 2014 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote:

what bias.
We will revisit this tmr.

On August 20 2014 00:28 Xatalos wrote:


I didn't like your readpost earlier today where you basically set yourself up for the day with a set of players that you'd like to lynch on very lacking, even flat out wrong reasons (I think I explained about that earlier). It didn't feel like a townie looking for scum, but rather scum dumping a lynchlist to prepare for the deadline. Listing those reads so early, with a lot of (made up?) reasoning, and not really evaluating your reads ever since, feels like how scum would approach the lynch. That and process of elimination (with several townreads the odds of you flipping scum increase).

For Tehpoofter, it's just generally his apparent lack of direction / scumhunting and huge ratio of unnecessary posts that don't help the game in any way. And process of elimination.

Robik I think is town. I don't really know his meta, but the way he's been posting feels like he blends with the thread and expresses his thoughts as he thinks. It's generally hard for scum to just post stuff when anything could possibly give them away.

On August 20 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:


Last time I checked, 8-4=4, not 2

Do you seriously think that lynching people without having at least a gut feeling that they're mafia is okay?
God, how can I NOT scumread you?

On August 20 2014 00:41 Damdred wrote:


Are you serious right here? here are the posts where i pursued the issue with GB











Why are you lying on me Xata? There was NOTHING casual about this I went after GB and didn't stop and GB eventually left the thread and came back today....why are you saying things like this