Newbie Mini Mafia LVII

On July 29 2014 07:09 HaruRH wrote:

Dun try to smurf lel, I will be asking gmarshal for an ip check on everyone before the game starts

if you're not a smurf, welcome to tlmafia, where shit goes down faster than you can think

On July 29 2014 11:06 Seeyalater wrote:
/in

On July 29 2014 11:09 HaruRH wrote:


Ok, thanks for the clarification :D

Btw I put you as replacement.

On July 30 2014 02:29 GlowingBear wrote:


I guess you are right.

##Unvote
##Vote: tehpoofter

On July 30 2014 03:23 JennyHell wrote:
Oh, you'd be surprised how much he sleeps. Lets do some math, shall we.. He's 6 hours behind me, I got a surprise in minecraft sometime when I was asleep, I fell asleep at 5.. He had to travel quite far away, took me about an hour to get there.. so say he did it around 6 my time, that's 12 his time and he was still playing DM when I woke up this morning around 10, so that's 4 his time.. It's currently 1 his time, so he's slept ~9 hours.

We might hear from him within 3 hours, yeah? Sounds about right..

On July 30 2014 03:53 Teemursu wrote:

Statistically? LMFAO

On July 30 2014 03:54 JennyHell wrote:
Whoa! Annoying face, eh?

And true, I didn't get a math degree, or any degree at Cambridge. I did get a certificate of proficiency, though, but again not in math.
In fact, I'm surprised my math actually held up through that post.

On July 30 2014 03:54 Teemursu wrote:

I like that you try to generate some discussion, but I think the question you asked is weird. What do you now think of her answer that she did give one? Too consciously trying to keep the appearance?

On July 30 2014 03:57 lilwade wrote:

I don't bring other games into, not that I could since this is my first on these forums, but is it really worthy of a LMFAO
I thought it was rather a LOL or a LMAO at best

On July 30 2014 04:02 lilwade wrote:
Oops somehow I managed to post in your comment!
Looks like we gotta wise guy, a bit of an overreaction would you say??

On July 30 2014 04:03 JennyHell wrote:


SMELL?! Now I'm annoying and I smell?! It better be a good smell or.. Uhm.. what to threaten with..

Oh yeah!
##Vote Tehpoofter

On July 30 2014 04:07 lilwade wrote:
Just gauging reactions m8, I like to get to know who I am playing with. I just thought it was funny you changed your vote just based on that. But hey, that might be your playstyle.

On July 30 2014 04:12 JennyHell wrote:


Maybe just a reaction test?
I'll go ahead and do this, for now..

##unvote

On July 30 2014 04:14 Teemursu wrote:

Why do you think so?

On July 30 2014 04:32 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Wait wat.

I said I was considering if I should /in, not that I was /in. i actually have a pretty busy week O_O

Oh well, i guess I'll try and make time for this. :x

On July 30 2014 04:41 GlowingBear wrote:


Nope, she actually said nothing on her post. It shows she is cautious to tell us about her play style, but it looks like mor of a town paranoia than scum hiding.
It's fine that you find that weird, but what would be a scum motive behind that question. Think about it.

On July 30 2014 04:47 JennyHell wrote:


Do you expect people that are new to mafia in general to be able to say exactly how their play differentiate depending on what role they are when they haven't actually played enough to know themselves yet?

Like, if you were to ask seeyalater the same question that you asked me, you'd probably get an even more empty answer, because he hasn't played any yet.

It's not only what is said that is important, more so the way it is said. Or is that just me?

On July 30 2014 05:23 Teemursu wrote:

Want to explain your vote a bit?

On July 30 2014 05:18 Teemursu wrote:
Yessssssss, finally hit legend in HS with rank 1663 and Captain only has 2593. Had to immortalize this somewhere.

On July 30 2014 04:55 Seeyalater wrote:

Hey don't try to throw scum at me sister! To answer said question, I'm pretty sure no matter the alignment I'd play similarly day 1 to try to figure out who the scummiest people are. Now what I'd do with said info is different though, because as you've noticed I've yet to actually call anyone mafia, just trying to notice who seems the scummiest so far.

Not sure if this is you being Mafia trying to throw off scum Jenny, or just a really defensive townie.

On July 30 2014 05:49 DCLXVI wrote:

Are you sure about that? He says he will come up with a list of his ideas on people, then posts mostly spam afterwards. Maybe he wasn't joking about mafia on mafia action?

If time is the concern how about posting just the top 1 mafia/town tehpoofter?
For me Glowingbear is easily the top town, between getting the town started working and keeping it on track. I would be interested to hear your opinions on people GB.

Top Scum for me right now is tehpoofter, he spent the first half of his posts doing nothing, then says he will get to work and immediately returns to spam.

##Vote Tehpoofter

On July 30 2014 06:11 JennyHell wrote:
I can see why people are on the fence or dislike Poofter. He's a strong player during video mafia and even during times I have a strong town read on him, it's still at the back of my mind that he could be fooling me and in fact be mafia. He's really good at portraying town when being mafia, and really good at finding that perfect position when a role to not be targeted by mafia during the night.

That said, I personally don't feel like he's the target for today.

We have yet to hear anything from meatpudding and Lord Tolkien doesn't even seem like he cares.

I'd like to hear from as many as possible before I feel comfortable enough to truly vote on anyone today.

On July 30 2014 06:27 Seeyalater wrote:
What he meant is that you said you were going to say who your top town, in-between, and mafia were, but you have yet to do so.

On July 30 2014 06:34 JennyHell wrote:



I'd rather go for more than just hope about you being town, but it is what it is I guess.

It seems you have us all divided about you right now, so don't know if that's such a good job being towny, just yet.

On July 30 2014 07:02 Seeyalater wrote:
That Bang on Tolkien is kind of odd, seeing as how he's said one thing since the game started, and has contributed nothing at all since, but I guess he got a town vibe off that, and the fact that he was considering making time for the game although very busy is something I can dig as a townie read, so I'd agree that for now Tolkien is off my immediate lynch list.

On July 30 2014 06:55 JennyHell wrote:


May I ask for some info behind your reads?

On July 30 2014 08:08 Seeyalater wrote:

If you show me that 6 pack I'll never vote for you.

On July 30 2014 08:16 JennyHell wrote:
You've seen my mouth? Now I'm a bit creeped out.. Did you hack in to the snapchat I sent to Poofter with my mouth on it?!

On July 30 2014 08:29 Tehpoofter wrote:


I wasn't suppose to share that with everyone i knew?

On July 30 2014 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:


Nah. You would be amazed if you knew how easy is to find someone's twitter typing little information on google search

On July 30 2014 06:31 lilwade wrote:

I see what you did there

On July 30 2014 08:32 Seeyalater wrote:

Well ya blew it!

And its not that I don't want to get on anyone's bad side, I could care less about that, I just want to make a more informed decision before I go spewing shit from my mouth and calling people mafia.

On July 30 2014 08:41 JennyHell wrote:
In video mafia if someone is softing a role, you're not supposed to point it out to people... That's why it's softing, not hard claiming. They're trying to keep it on a down low, in hopes that mafia will not pick up on it.

On July 30 2014 08:44 JennyHell wrote:
Okay, since most have given some kind of scum/not scum read, I'll just quickly name mine.

For day 1, I'm okay with Poofter, GB, Seeya, maaaaybe Teemu for not following the general crowd and actually questioning some things that were said and done. But it's a big maybe.

I'm on the fence with the rest of you. Pick up your game!

On July 30 2014 09:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Biggest problem for me is that the jokes and filler are permeating this entire thread. Makes filter-diving a bitch, pls be mo' srs gaiz (now I want to request a feature to delete posts in a filter, I could probably reduce most filters down to <5 posts each). And quote stuff you're responding to for meh.

Anyways, quick skim through filters:


In all other sections, yes. In TL Mafia section, double/triple/multipost away (unless it's really fking obvious you're just post-count inflating or shitposting; condense if possible).

Outside of that, I like your posts. Seeya's been more or less serious throughout with his posts, and I agree with most of his points (lurker lynch policy, check, changing reads, check, properly interpreting my first null post as null, check).

GlowingBear: Started the srs talk, but hasn't been very active past that. My experience in my second TL mafia game (fuck if I remember the number) is that moving the game out of the joke phase is an easy way for mafia to pick up extra brownie points, so I don't give any major points for that. GB, why do you peg Jenny and Seeya as your initial scum reads? Curious about that.

meatpudding: lyncherino if no good posterino, or await the unfortunate modkill/sub in.

TehPoofter: Reads as strong town to me. Not sure why we have a bandwagon on him of all people. Pls explain, DCLXVI.

JennyHell: Why is Teemu (mayyyybeee) clear in your eyes exactly? Outside of a tea made of walruses being trustworthy, all he's done is asked questions with weak followup. His filter is too wafer-thin for me to make any judgements.

#Vote lilwade
Right now, all I know is that he agrees with JennyHell, and hasn't taken a stance on anything despite a 1.5 page filter, and I quite frankly find him more scummy than TehPoofter which is a pretty bad D1 lynch, I have to say since he's been pretty active and actually contributing to town.

I'll try to post more in-depth analysis later when I have the time to be more thorough, but these are my initial thoughts.

On July 30 2014 09:50 GlowingBear wrote:


Took 2 seconds to find it. Not stalker at all.
Googled: jennyhell daily mafia. Second link.

On July 30 2014 09:12 lilwade wrote:

I disagree completely, I think you knew it was obvious and I think you are the type to be fastidious in what you do.
From what I have seen so far if you wanted to soft a role you could be more discrete.

On July 30 2014 10:11 lilwade wrote:

I have played maybe 6 games of mafia in my time. The forums I play them on people don't really care so I got bored of that.
I came here because a buddy of mine said it was a lot higher caliber and I am in to that.

P.S. fastidious means you pay close attention to detail.

On July 30 2014 10:02 Seeyalater wrote:
So my updated are-


1. GlowingBear- Leaning town so far for me, has been making decent points throughout the thread, however as others have said they seem to lack clear thoughts on what he himself is thinking. Townie enough in my book.

2. Teemursu- Very empty posts, not much substance to them, seems somewhat disinterested in the game, even though he has been posting a lot. Heavily mafia leaning.
3. DCLXVI
4. meatpudding-Afk policy lynch

5. JennyHell- Strong posts with a lot of substance to them. Any time someone asks a question to her she responds in well thought out posts, and also gives her insight a lot when others give their thoughts about the game. Top town.

6. lilwade- Much like Teemu, a good amount of points but not a lot of substance to most of them, if any at all. Another Mafia leaning player.

7. Tehpoofter- Lots of posts, good input, "friendly" demeanor, gives off a huge townie vibe. Almost too huge. Townie for today, might reevaluate further as game goes on so I don't find myself comfortably in his pocket. Although I'm probably just being extremely paranoid.

8. Lord Tolkien- In his first real post, he had more input and reasoning thrown in then all of Teemu's and lilwade's posts combined. I also liked his first post, even if it was odd. Hopefully he stays active and brings more input into the game before today ends.

9. Seeyalater- A fine townie chap who has been very active since waking up today. Doesn't have a way with words but he posts his thoughts often!

On July 30 2014 10:26 lilwade wrote:

Teemu started off active he kind of dabbled in some good questions but pursue like I would have, he had a lot of filler posts to appear more active, and he has currently been asleep for almost 16 hours.

If I had to question your marry bang kill list i would say:
1) I am not so sure that there are any marry's here yet, kudus for you actually choosing someone tho
Jennyhell seems to be very active and appear townie, albeit, I never make a true top town d1
2) I am on your kill list when I the town hero, you may not see it now but d2 is when the big boys come to play.
3) A bit quick to judge seeya, I think he has had some solid posts and is trying to contribute to town.

On July 30 2014 10:29 lilwade wrote:

I get a leaning mafia vibe every time i go over his posts, at first I thought he was really town but now I think he is on the fence/leaning mafia

On July 30 2014 10:33 Seeyalater wrote:
Oh my bad completely skipped over him. I'll be 100% honest, he's completely fallen off my radar since he talked earlier.
Actually had to go look at his previous posts in this thread, and have realized how little he's done in the game. His first read on GB seemed townie aligned, but him dropping off afterwards and the weird comment he made at teemu have made me put him on the leaning mafia side, though not someone I'd want to push on today.

On July 30 2014 10:44 JennyHell wrote:
I just went through GB's posts again, wondering what he actually brought to the table.
Other than calling me and seeya mafia partners, without any explanation, along with the continuous comments that he will give his reads soon, all he's done is initiate the more serious discussions and then himself keep trolling about and stalking me on Twitter.
Get your head in the game and give your reads on us already.
It's really difficult to keep reading you town when you won't give reasons for your reads.

On July 30 2014 10:48 Seeyalater wrote:

Even so I get a townie vibe off him so he's off my lynch list for today, but my read on him can change easily if he doesn't contribute as much.

On July 30 2014 11:10 DCLXVI wrote:
I voted for tehpoofter because he claimed he would talk about people and post opinions, then went straight back to spam. Apparently I misunderstood what he said about when he would do such, but that doesn't change the fact that he was useless for a long time. At least after my vote on him he started helping us so I am less suspicious of him now.

##Unvote

I have not felt any scummy vibes from teemursu, but apparently some people have so I will go take a look at that.

On July 30 2014 12:23 Teemursu wrote:


Why do you think so? 75% is quite strong of an opinion.

Heading off soon, so won't be posting much right now.

On July 30 2014 12:26 Teemursu wrote:

How sure are you that he is mafia? >75%?

On July 30 2014 11:51 DCLXVI wrote:
After reading through Teemursus filter several times I understand the suspicion on him. He has not posted any opinions on anyone so far other than a soft push at Glowingbear and what seems to be a suspicion on seeyalater


He starts off the day spammy, stopping once GlowingBear starts the real game. Perhaps he wanted to delay that as long as possible? Just a guess. However, later on he posts this after a long conversation with GlowingBear:



The next two people he talks to he asks short one line questions that he doesn't really follow up on. He does ask another question to seeyalater as a 'followup' but it is really just another question that he responds 'ok, thanks for your answer'. He then goes to bed, and jumps in with a couple more questions.

Let us know what you really think of the players Teemursu. You haven't taken a stance on anyone or anything so far. If you are going to tell us

and then do just that, I will vote for you. Everyone should take a long look at his filter and tell me if I am wrong, but this is pretty damning.

##Vote Teemursu

On July 31 2014 06:27 Lord Tolkien wrote:

Yes.

Rule 1: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.

Rule 2: blues are just town with special powers, don't treat them as anything other than VT if you got that role, because the only thing shit like lurking does is give you away to mafia, and make you seem scummier to town.

Rule 3: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.

On July 31 2014 06:58 JennyHell wrote:


Really?

On July 31 2014 07:04 GlowingBear wrote:
Who are you voting, poof?

On July 31 2014 08:03 HaruRH wrote:

Vote Count – Day 1

Teemursu (3): Glowingbear, DCLXVI, seeyalater, meatpudding
Tehpoofter (1): Glowingbear, Jennyhell, lilwade, DCLXVI, Teemursu
meatpudding (1): Glowingbear
seeyalater (0): Tehpoofter, Teemursu
lilwade (1): Tehpoofter, Lord Tolkien
DCLXVI (2): Tehpoofter, lilwade

Not voting (1): JennyHell

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Currently, Teemursu is set to be lynched with 3 votes.

Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!

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Day 1 will end in (14:00 GMT (+00:00)).

Seeyalater's vote on meatpudding is invalid since seeyalater did not unvote, nor put it in the correct format

On July 30 2014 15:37 Teemursu wrote:
I'm going through Banks's filter, and I don't get too much of a trolley vibe from him. He has expressed a lot of opinions and substantiated his reads. Is there anyone who still thinks he is mafia for being trolley?

I feel like he is being accused for trolliness (not sure if by wolves or villagers) and being cleared now that he has given opinions without looking too much into the opinions of themselves, which makes me think that either mafia has been pushing on him or he is mafia himself, slipping away from people's mafia circle.

On July 30 2014 15:54 Teemursu wrote:
Also, Seeyalater, I didn't imply anywhere that they were good reads. What I meant to say (kinda typo'd earlier) that town doesn't have good reads early, which means that posting an early list like that is easy as mafia to appear as townie.

It is easy because the reads are either a) sheeped and the list is mostly a recap of what's been said earlier or b) fabricated. A is the case and which is why I think you're scummy.

##Unvote

Not scummy enough to warrant a vote at this point, actually, and I think I might not be on the right track. I think you might actually think that I'm mafia now, maybe.

##Vote Tehpoofter

Until he praises how town I am or discusses reads with me.

On July 31 2014 08:16 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I suggest Teemu consolidate, since TehPoofter isn't up for lynching EVER.

On July 30 2014 17:52 Teemursu wrote:
A wolf rather. Are you one?

I can hear it..

"AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"



Is this how your QT looks like?

On July 30 2014 19:33 meatpudding wrote:


Hi Teemu.

meat - top town or tt for short
banks - town lover
jen - the devil is a woman but she's not evil
666 - definitely evil
wade - using some pressure
cya - too cautious
tea - first to post first to kill (we're no strangers to love)
gb - logic infallible therefore must have perfect info

On July 31 2014 00:59 GlowingBear wrote:
I would bang poof.
With a gun.

On July 31 2014 11:29 JennyHell wrote:
Oh nvm, looks like he's on it.

On July 31 2014 11:53 GlowingBear wrote:
JUST AT LEAST PRESSURE MEATPUDDING, GODDAMIT!

I've been saying that over and over! You're trying to kill people we have information to work on but you're letting lurkers that we have no information living!

Come ON!

Votecount, please! We need to know what wagons are happening

On July 31 2014 11:58 JennyHell wrote:


Fudgecake, why do you make me doubt my gut feeling on lilwade.. I have to sadly agree though that he picked it up a little and is looking less scummy than for instance meatpudding.
Shit.. What to do..

Okay, until I hear more from meatpudding and can reassess the situation fully, this is what I'll do.

##Unvote

You're not completely off the hook, lilwade, I still want to see you being townier than you are.

Meatpudding, I know you're in school right now but there's been some serious inactivity and huge lack of reads on your part.

##Vote Meatpudding

On July 31 2014 12:15 GlowingBear wrote:




If you think that this case is not paying attention to the thread at that moment, I don't know what is to pay attention anymore.
Anyway, tomorrow will be an easier day.

On July 31 2014 12:13 Seeyalater wrote:


I'm still really on the fence about GB. My stance on him has also definitely softened after sleeping on his case, because would mafia really go to such lengths and come up with a pretty bad case study? Or was it made so to seem more donkey townie? Or to just hope we get caught up in the shit-slinging? Also I do like him wanting pressure town into pressuring others and using their votes.

Lord Tolkien I still get a decent vibe off of. Although I surely do wish he would post more often, the few posts that he has made have been really concise, he brings up a whole bunch of reads, and just gives off a good townie vibe, and he seems to legit try to make time to read the game and put an effort into his posts.

On July 31 2014 12:22 JennyHell wrote:


It was 2-2 before I changed my vote, making it 3-2. If I change my vote again it'll only make it 2-3, so it will not be that much of a difference, and although DC is super scummy right now and his filter is shorter than a midget with no legs, I still feel that meatpudding is contributing less. He listed names and didn't give any reads.

What DC has done though that I don't agree with, nor like, is saying that Teemu is more likely to be mafia than meatpudding. I don't know how he comes to that conclusion, and then his answer to GB doesn't seem to make sense, saying he can see why we would vote meatpudding when GB was questioning why we weren't..



I'll keep this in mind and might change from meat to DC later on. I just need to have a serious think about it.

On July 31 2014 12:29 JennyHell wrote:
Okay, now that Teemu is going at meatpudding I'll change my vote to DC.
The wagons will be equal.

##Unvote
##Vote DCLXVI

On July 31 2014 12:28 Teemursu wrote:


I would almost lynch you for this question.

Anyways, Banks stepped it up a bit, and I like him a little more, but until he successfully lynches mafia, I will have doubts about him in the back of my mind.

##Unvote

##Vote MeatPudding

On July 31 2014 12:31 JennyHell wrote:


I think anyone in their right state of mind will have doubts about little Pooftah.

On July 31 2014 12:33 Teemursu wrote:
I read 666's case on me, but it wasn't good enough for me to address while I'm still naked and in bed. I'll get to it once I'm bored at work.

Also as much and as valid the accusations on Seeyalater have been, Idk if he is mafia. To me he just sounds really genuine about what he is saying. I might be overreading it (?) while I'm still half asleep, but Idk. Still needs to step up his game, though.

On July 31 2014 12:51 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I'll post stuff after I finish catching back up.

On July 31 2014 13:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
NVM forgot I had a dom4 turn to finish lol. Must script my armies of blood-sacrificing elves and werewolves to murder the undead hordes of the Romans, and gay Greek hoplites. Also Spanish Inquisition.


Anyways:

Poofter consolidated the bandwagons from the mishmash we had earlier; approve. He's pretty fucking townie atm. And in any event, I had no idea why we had votes on him in the first place as he was pretty faking active, which basically makes him a non-vote D1. Rule #1: never lynch an active player D1, because talking is good for town anyways.

But stop talking about who the medic should save. It's not even N1 yet.

Also,

As you wish.



On lilwade:
Still feels scummy to me, but eh, I think I need to start revising my opinion of him. His last few posts are better.

And in any event, it looks like he's not a viable bandwagon, so I'm not leaving a non-vote here.


On DC and the case against him:
His filter is shorter than mine lol. Warning sign #1.

His pushes onto TehPoofter and Teemu were late and hesitant, and only after suspicion was already cast onto them. He hasn't provided any new reads or interesting tidbits besides just trying to solidify behind a bandwagon. His filter...for lack of a better word, confusing and definitely scummy, but it may just be bad town play. Urgh.

I desperately want to hear more from him (and meat) so we get this right.



There a reason we shouldnt lynch you? I'm starting to like the case on DCvsMahvel, but I still want to kill you. Youre not playing anything like you did last game, where you took a (correct) read on mafia and stuck by it through thick and thin, so I'm trying to figure out the discrepancy here.



And thank you guys for bearing with me here. I probably won't be able to post as much as I would like until ~Sunday, so probably the tail-end/second half of D2 is when I can start flexing my muscle.

On July 31 2014 14:07 meatpudding wrote:





This post from 666 speaks to me. I can follow his logic the same way. I think he is town.

On July 31 2014 14:15 meatpudding wrote:


I would say Teemu. Most people seem to agree he is some way scummy. (I haven't seen everyone vote behind it though.) I think 666 and cya are both town and I would consolidate between me and Tea.

On July 31 2014 14:15 JennyHell wrote:


True, it's the motion of the ocean, but if your ocean is as dry as the sahara desert, you might want to consider a solution to your problem. Rain tham reads, dude!

On July 31 2014 14:18 JennyHell wrote:


To me he haven't been the towniest, but he is definitely not on the chopping block for today. Many have stated so, me included. Now get to the program and work some serious magic.

On July 31 2014 16:09 Teemursu wrote:

I like that there is just an awkward silence after this post.

On July 31 2014 16:13 meatpudding wrote:


Why don't you elaborate why you think he's scum? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22709181 You say he's not pushing when in fact he is. Like yeah he hasn't posted much but I do not get scum from that. I happen to think he is going in the right direction (except voting me) and I think he's town. Would you reevaluate roman when you were once "75% sure" tea was scum?

On July 31 2014 16:23 meatpudding wrote:


This still isn't enough to swing my vote. I think apathetic scum hunting could be applied more than one way. At least he put minimal effort in. Maybe I agree with you but do you put top scum based on that alone?

On July 31 2014 16:44 meatpudding wrote:


I'm really starting to lose faith in you bro. We are going to wagon on 666 when you have so little to claim on him? And Teemu is just sheeping you. This reasoning does not stand with me, and if you can't name another scum I would consider switching my vote from tea to you. Make more sense before leading a potential mislynch.

On July 31 2014 16:57 Teemursu wrote:
Woops, wrong post quoted, meant to quote the one where I asked Banks who the mafia is.

On July 31 2014 17:09 Teemursu wrote:
W/e, it doesn't really matter. She's town otherwise in her posting and that post isn't going to make her mafia in any world.

On July 31 2014 17:21 meatpudding wrote:
I hope Jenny catches up, I would like to hear her opinion.

On July 31 2014 17:27 JennyHell wrote:


I am currently reading, and keeping up.
Still waiting for something valid from you. I'd like perhaps a longer post with more thought through and explained reads.
If there's someone you really think we should reconsider, making a case might help?

On July 31 2014 17:39 lilwade wrote:
I got excited to see a bunch of posts when I got back, I am sincerely disappointed that the game had to go this direction, Meatpudding. What are your goals right now, you look like the kid in kindergarten pointing the finger and the other kid spitting gibberish because he took your toy. We are almost at the point where it would be better for you to role claim than anything else, not saying you have a role. Please put up a solid defense backed by what you think is solid leads and maybe we can get somewhere. For a bit you were leaning town but did not follow up on just about anything you have said. I am not sure if you just can not handle the pressure but if you are town hang in there and throw a few more punches.

On July 31 2014 17:36 JennyHell wrote:


Where am I at, eh?

For today, my bangs are as follow:
GB
Seeya
Tolkien
Teemu

My marry is:

Poofter/Banks/Hubby/Rhianna/Robin
(He's got many wonderful nicknames)

My kills are:

DC
Meatpuppy/pudding whatever the name was
lilwade

I was asked to re-think lilwade and I've started to doubt my scumread on him due to people convincing me to. He's my least scummiest out of the kills.

Do I need to re-tell all my reasons or is the names enough?

On July 31 2014 17:41 meatpudding wrote:


The meaning of this depends on if you prefer B or M?

On July 31 2014 17:41 lilwade wrote:

Agreed

On July 31 2014 17:43 Teemursu wrote:

If you and 666 are both town, I honestly don't know.

I'm not voting on you because you're inactive, I'm voting on you because:



I think it was really scummy to make the list, ask a couple of questions and disappear without following them up with anything.

You're not really doing anything to defend yourself, while from my perspective it's impossible to read you as town when most of what you've done is

Saying I'm mafia for reasons that I would have to find the evidence for. For example, saying that my text:content ratio isn't something you can just quote and refer to, I would have to go ahead and point to my filter as to where my reads, pushes and content is and I'm not doing that extra work to prove to you that I'm "playing townie", since almost everyone here agrees that I shouldn't be the lynch today, and you're not giving me an alternative, really.

Your push on GB isn't strong or good. You were basically saying he's mafia for using good and well-thought logic. Ok? I think you also mentioned that he was "too careful" about it, that's where YOU need to prove it and provide EVIDENCE and EXAMPLES. You're doing none of these things and instead, you're just hard defending 666 because of his push on me, while I know I'm town and while even you agree with Banks that he hasn't been adamant about getting me lynched, so why read him as town?

You being so stubborn and tunneled on me is how you played the other game as well (you were town), but do you really think there is a way for me to read you as town, IF IF IF, just assume IF I'm town?

IF you think there is, you still haven't done anything to prove or show it to us, even after Banks and I are trying to give you the opportunity to defend yourself.

On July 31 2014 17:53 meatpudding wrote:
Jenny, if you love Banks would you even consider banging Roman Numerals?

On July 31 2014 17:50 Teemursu wrote:


Can you tell me something specific to analyze? I don't really see what I need to, since I'm mostly on the same page as she is (more paranoid about you and less suspicious on lilwayne) and I'm not really too interested in going filter diving her to find the reasons for her names.

I'm also getting really paranoid that Meat might be town, as shit as his defense still is.

On July 31 2014 18:07 Teemursu wrote:


You remember the game I was mafia trying to lynch meat, right? You don't think meat is acting very similarly? That's why I'm starting to lean more on 666 but I kind of am not convinced he's mafia either. Like what you said was good, but usually I have stronger vibes on mafia than that.

On July 31 2014 18:17 Seeyalater wrote:
Man, this vote is hard. I honestly can't say I'm a fan of either Clockwork or Meat, but who to hammer before bed.

On July 31 2014 18:14 lilwade wrote:

4 hours and 45 mins

On July 31 2014 18:20 lilwade wrote:

Roman numeral guy

On July 31 2014 18:30 Seeyalater wrote:
If meat was to change his own vote to Clockwork and vote is tied 4-4, what would happen in that case? Asking in case I need to change my vote to stop a tie from happening.

Otherwise I think I'm going to stick with my gut and keep my vote on Meat.

On July 31 2014 18:25 lilwade wrote:

I am not sure if you are actually directing this question at me because I have no idea

On July 31 2014 20:35 JennyHell wrote:
What I can't wrap my head around, why would meatpudding defend DC when they're both the wagons?
It just doesn't make sense to me.
If I was up on the block with someone I'd try to defend myself, seeing as I know that I'm town, and not defend nor throw under the bus the other guy, unless I had already read him as scum and it was going to be my vote either way.
If I read him as town, just like me, depending on how strong I might have thrown in a defense or two for him, but mostly just trying to make sure that I am being read as the town that I am. Because that's where something must have gone wrong then.

On July 31 2014 23:20 Teemursu wrote:
Unlike what Banks said as a medic I would probably save him and not Jenny (unless there is a blue read).

On August 01 2014 05:15 Teemursu wrote:

Hai Banks.

Anything you want to talk about before I head off to bed (once I manage to get myself tos top playing Hearthstone as well)?

On August 01 2014 05:15 lilwade wrote:

Welcum young padawan

On August 01 2014 01:07 JennyHell wrote:
Gooooooooooooooooood morning, and my my my what a good morning it is!

1 down, boys! This is awesome!

That brutal description though of the death, eek!

Let's see what horrors the night phase brings. Also, we can all talk during a night phase, wooot.

On August 01 2014 01:48 Teemursu wrote:


No, I get that, and I'm not calling you mafia (check my post about 666's interactions), but your vote kind of makes the least amount of difference, because meat looked like he was going down anyway. And I do n't know the probability of what you're proposing. Mafia is a game about reads, not probability. If you go by probability only, all games would only have like one possible outcome (obviously the extreme scenario, but you get my point?).

On August 01 2014 05:55 JennyHell wrote:


But was it mafia hammer, trying to make himself "confirmed" as he stated in a post earlier this nightphase. Or was is town hammer?

On August 01 2014 04:13 GlowingBear wrote:


You're hinting you are the medic when we have no idea who can be medic. It didn't sound like you were trying to take a bullet so... Why saying that?
If I misread anything let me know... I slept too little and I am not absorbing information very well lol

On August 01 2014 04:19 JennyHell wrote:
Haha, some of the logic of people is just so wacko. Why even call Teemu out for it when others did it multiple times during d1? It just doesn't make sense. Stop trying to help mafia by clearing their questionmarks out for them.

On August 01 2014 06:36 JennyHell wrote:
I've had that stupid Eiffel 65 song going around in my head ever since it was linked. CURSE YOU, POOFTAH!

On August 01 2014 04:22 GlowingBear wrote:


Saying someone is blue daytime =\= saying someone is blue night time.
I don't think mafia is stupid enough for believing that hint from Teemu.

On August 01 2014 06:42 GlowingBear wrote:


Kthxbai

On August 01 2014 07:36 Seeyalater wrote:

Way to ignore my inquiry.

On August 01 2014 08:09 JennyHell wrote:
I'm almost ready for the wedding.

I have something old and something borrowed. Just missing one more piece.

(totally just said this to annoy Tolkien right now)

On August 01 2014 08:14 Lord Tolkien wrote:

I'ma gonna shoot you for that.

>:-(

On August 01 2014 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:


ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Do you all read me as mafia???
Really???

Wtf I give up

On August 01 2014 04:56 JennyHell wrote:


Lemme guess, it's part of some ridiculous math language? If so, let me just say.. I didn't go to cambridge for maths.

On August 01 2014 05:00 JennyHell wrote:


I get the jist of it.. now.. It's supposed to be a crossed over equal sign, signifying it isn't equal.
I still would have much more preferred the crocodile mouths < and >. Like this: 1 < 2

On August 01 2014 08:38 JennyHell wrote:


Hate to break it to you, no matter how strong of a read you have, noone is actually confirmed this or that before they are flipped. Just saying..

On August 01 2014 08:39 lilwade wrote:

Seriously? you are shitting town rainbows everywhere.

On August 01 2014 08:40 GlowingBear wrote:


Suggesting vigi killing me? How's that clear?
God that's awful.

Donkey? Really?
I don't even...

Nah, I give up.

On August 01 2014 09:29 JennyHell wrote:



Marry
- Pooftahboy
Will not give my reasons for this one. I think it's way too obvious already and if you haven't paid enough attention to draw the conclusions yourself then you don't deserve to know why.
Also, I'm going carpe diem mode on this and saying fuck it! Let's do it! Where mah diamond ring at, yo?

Bang
- GB
Your attitude, man... Stop giving up so easily. Unless you're actually mafia, then please do give up and let me win. Thanks.
You've had some really bonkers reads and flawed logic, but you're genuinely trying to solve this, or at least so it appears to me. You're not my lynch for today. Enjoy the bang sesh.

- Tolkien
Oh boy, you just keep coming back for more, don't you? You do need to lighten up a litte, but I love that you're showing such passion for the game that you're willing to yell at my hubby. Or is it raging jealousy?
On a more serious note though, where your posts lack in quantity you make up for it in quality.

- Teemu
I still have no clue how to even begin to read you. Sometimes you appear really towny in things you say and then you start talking smack about wolves and whatnot. It's just really confusing.
The fact that people I find scummy is pushing on you, makes me think you're more towny. So welcome to a 1 night stand. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.

Kill

- Meatpudding
I can't make sense out of why you went to such a distance of defending DC. I felt if you really wanted to swing it around and push on Teemu there were way better ways to do it than your pisspoor attempts. I said it back then and I'll say it again you were grasping at straws and you were defending the other wagon over yourself. Really odd behaviour. I need an explanation before I even begin reconsidering this scum you've smeared yourself in.

Loners
You lot are loners because you didn't get married or banged, but you're still alive, for now.

-Seeya
A lot of people read you scum and to start with I had a really hard time seeing it. But it's come to a point where I don't really know where you stand any more. People are starting to make sense about you that you're just doing what I like to call "the pope game". You play just about towny enough, nothing more than that. I want to see some passion from you!
I liked your towny approach the last few hours of the day, discussing your gut feeling about meat and what to do if a tie occurs etc.
However, why you feel I've fallen off due to some silly ass early read from DC about me being towny (when everyone but GB read me town) is just odd.
I need you to show me my gbff and how much he wants to win this for town!

-lilwade
You're getting closer to being on the banglist. I still have some qualms about you, but your early push on DC and your newfound uplifting attitude is fantastic.
The reason you didn't make my banglist is because some of the things you said earlier, asking meat to announce his role (coaching mafia mate? I dno..)
And then when I said that I didn't like that you agreed and it just felt very flipfloppy, and noone likes flip flops. They make the most annoying sounds.

On August 01 2014 09:59 JennyHell wrote:
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Wrong on a bang... Could honestly be either one of them.
The one I'm having the hardest time reading is Teemu, but that scum is pushing on him helps his case.
If it's Tolkien, good job at portraying town when you have to. This is the one I least think it is if I'm wrong on one.
GB's shown some weird ass logic and give-up attitude. Something I highly dislike seeing in town play. I once played an 8player video mafia game where the VT gave up and we ended up mislynching him, then mafia still had 2kp, and we ended up losing the game from 1 misslynch. Fairly sure the setup in that game is ridiculous, but whatever. Never give up as town. Fight fight fight and fight some more. Him giving up without even being pushed is very peculiar. Mafia trying to appeal to emotions? I dno.. It's too confusing. Could me meta GB, could be Teemu the unreadable, could not be Tolkien, unless I'm a massive donkey.

On August 01 2014 10:20 GlowingBear wrote:


Oh now you get a townie vibe from the guy you said you would shoot if you were vigi. Great!

On August 01 2014 10:23 JennyHell wrote:
slap, slap, slap, slap

On August 01 2014 10:45 JennyHell wrote:


No, it was the sound of your flip flops.

On August 01 2014 11:40 JennyHell wrote:


Wouldn't be surprised if one of us were to die in the night.. le sigh.

On August 01 2014 11:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Anybody there?

On August 01 2014 14:21 Lord Tolkien wrote:

Assumes 3 mafia.

Touching upon this before night ends, but I...cordially disagree.

On August 01 2014 15:17 meatpudding wrote:


Pardon if I missed it, but I didn't see anyone put forward a good case about 666.

On August 02 2014 00:38 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm lynching meatpudding today. I don't care. If you don't have questions for me, see you in 48 hours

On August 02 2014 04:27 Seeyalater wrote:
Woah, while somewhat expected, I'm sad Jenny died. D:

I'm getting ready for work and Fridays are usually busy so I might not have time to make a concise post for a bit, my first impression is that now I'm heavily doubting MP is the last mafia, since some of Jenny's last posts were about her concerns about how hard the bandwagon was for him.

On August 02 2014 04:48 GlowingBear wrote:
"This is not going to be a slow day"
Most active ATM: GlowingBear

Slow day it is.

On August 02 2014 05:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:
First,


whelp, im clearly mafia gaiz, pls lynch



In all seriousness tho:

As meat's new list actually makes some cognizant sense, and GB is still inconsistent (and my vote analysis leaves him and me as most suspicious after the flop considering DC's non-defense [and I know I'm town]), I'm leaving a tentative vote on him right now as I review some filters, later today. For pressure, atm since I really want to see him post more and clear himself if he's town; again I doubt we stumbled across TWO mafia D1.

Good news is I can start posting more actively starting tomorrow gaiz! inc town hero :D

#vote: meatpudding


The case against you GB is largely that you were fairly non-contributive to town's success D1 in finding and lynching mafia, and some of your cases and shit was fucking insane. As I noted, your last minute vote swap was significantly weaker than . Now as I noted, I still think it's unlikely that you're mafia and would draw attention to yourself so flagrantly near the end of the game (I would think mafia would've realized that DC was the lynch candidate at the time, and wouldn't be acting like they were the hammer vote), but I do need to re-read your filter again. You weren't heavy town lean in my eyes, and you definitely still aren't.



@seeya: if there's one thing I've learned from forum mafia, while understanding the position, it's by no means solid. I'll be looking at meatpudding's viability as town based on his merits, not on what i see dead people say. He's appearing more townie to me, but I would still push him as a D2 bandwagon unless someone puts together a BETTER case.