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On July 31 2014 23:43 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 23:37 Teemursu wrote:On July 31 2014 23:32 Lord Tolkien wrote:
His play is vaguely like what it was last game, the issue is I don't think having two identically poor playstyles is...good.
He may have just been lurking and trying to keep both himself and DC alive. What with their concerted push onto you...it's confusing to read him given his past meta. If I didn't play with him last game, I would read him scum partner to DC, and both scum were spotted D1, with DC being the sacrificial lamb. Lol, yeah, this and the fact I thought there were more votes on meatpudding was the reason why I was so paranoid he was town.Now that the flip happened, I gotta reread some people and see where I stand. There were more votes on DC since like I swapped my vote on him, tho. Not sure how it looked previously, but I think DC was def set to be lynched. This doesn't check out I think. Or are you saying you miscounted the votes. In which case, O_o
Nonono, yeah, I just miscounted for some reason.
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First order of business for me when I get back to the computer is to find out who 666 didn't communicate/give reads on and find the scum potentially there.
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On July 30 2014 11:54 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 11:48 Seeyalater wrote:On July 30 2014 11:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
Roman Numeral Guy I would officially no longer bang. Care to elaborate? Oh man I know I just went off on Teemursu on this if you don't follow up on this or post your opinions too I will not be happy.
Battery still holding up.
Not sure what to think of this.
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Remember to PM both me and sqrt all night actions, or type it in your coach QT. I will check.
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On July 31 2014 23:48 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 23:43 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 31 2014 23:37 Teemursu wrote:On July 31 2014 23:32 Lord Tolkien wrote:
His play is vaguely like what it was last game, the issue is I don't think having two identically poor playstyles is...good.
He may have just been lurking and trying to keep both himself and DC alive. What with their concerted push onto you...it's confusing to read him given his past meta. If I didn't play with him last game, I would read him scum partner to DC, and both scum were spotted D1, with DC being the sacrificial lamb. Lol, yeah, this and the fact I thought there were more votes on meatpudding was the reason why I was so paranoid he was town.Now that the flip happened, I gotta reread some people and see where I stand. There were more votes on DC since like I swapped my vote on him, tho. Not sure how it looked previously, but I think DC was def set to be lynched. This doesn't check out I think. Or are you saying you miscounted the votes. In which case, O_o Nonono, yeah, I just miscounted for some reason.
Meatpudding was set to be lynched. It was 4 vs 4 votes with meatpudding being the first to reach majority.
Now, I thought that this would make meatpudding looking town. But the signals that they were together were too strong. I've specifically pushed meatpudding to give an in depth read on 666 and he decided not to, which I find extremely indicative.
Kill meatpudding and game will be probably figured out even if he flips green.
Congrats, poof! MVP there.
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Nah, to be honest, meatpudding looked townie, even >>>>BLUEISH<<<<
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On August 01 2014 00:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Nah, to be honest, meatpudding looked townie, even >>>>BLUEISH<<<<
LMFAO
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Seeyalater, you said earlier that people kind of pressured us to vote on each other, or something. 666 pressured me for not voting on you and I just wanted to know, who was the one that pressured you to vote on me?
Whoever did that to you could be mafia with 666 trying to make us think there's a mafia between one of us, maybe.
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On August 01 2014 00:44 Teemursu wrote:
Seeyalater, you said earlier that people kind of pressured us to vote on each other, or something. 666 pressured me for not voting on you and I just wanted to know, who was the one that pressured you to vote on me?
Whoever did that to you could be mafia with 666 trying to make us think there's a mafia between one of us, maybe.
There is a mafia between you. I'm trying to figure out who.
Source: vote count
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Gooooooooooooooooood morning, and my my my what a good morning it is!
1 down, boys! This is awesome!
That brutal description though of the death, eek!
Let's see what horrors the night phase brings. Also, we can all talk during a night phase, wooot.
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Confirmed scum's interactions with people and my thoughts
GlowingBear
I think the way he goes from town, townier, townest with GB is him kind of following the town's general read on GB and him trying to pocket GB. I feel more at ease when I'm reading GB as town, tbh.
On July 30 2014 02:12 DCLXVI wrote:
You have proven me mafia twice now, why don't you back up your words with a vote?
looking suspicious there glowingbear better step up your game.
On July 30 2014 04:51 DCLXVI wrote:
Some scum do just sit back and ask questions about other people/the game, not actually contributing much GlowingBear. It was a decent way to get the real conversation started however, and now that everyone is here (except meatpudding?) we can actually play.
On July 30 2014 05:49 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 05:32 lilwade wrote:On July 30 2014 05:23 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 05:22 lilwade wrote:On July 30 2014 05:14 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 30 2014 04:14 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 04:09 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 30 2014 04:07 lilwade wrote:
Just gauging reactions m8, I like to get to know who I am playing with. I just thought it was funny you changed your vote just based on that. But hey, that might be your playstyle. I don't like this post. You might actually be mafia. Why do you think so? Apologetic to me seemed to be understanding of my style... bump that he doesn't know me maybe this is exactly how I play as mafia. Felt like he knew I was town and wanted to be sorta friendly not really start anything early. ##Unvote: tehpoofter Want to explain your vote a bit? Testing peoples actions and reactions, tehpoofter is the most town person in the game right now. If time is the concern how about posting just the top 1 mafia/town tehpoofter? For me Glowingbear is easily the top town, between getting the town started working and keeping it on track. I would be interested to hear your opinions on people GB.##Vote Tehpoofter
He then goes to talk about GB as if he kind of "knew" that GB is town. I don't really see scum partner talking about his other scum partner like this. I might be wrong, but right now I'm holding GB pretty high up in the town list
On July 30 2014 14:26 DCLXVI wrote:
Teemursu you have said several times you suspect Seeyalater, is there a reason why you don't use your vote? Are you waiting till you are more sure or for GlowingBear to start the wagon rolling?
meatpudding
On July 31 2014 07:46 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 07:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Why aren't you voting meatpudding?
Why aren't people voting meatpudding? Mainly because I think teemursu is more likely to be mafia. Meatpuddings posts have been sparce and subpar, but that could be attributed to an uninterested vanilla as well as a lurking mafia. Teemursu I have a strong feeling of scum. That being said, Teemursu is at least talking and giving some information whereas Meatpudding is completely useless to the town, I can see why people would rather see him go.
This is kinda interesting. I think I asked him about this (why is he the first over the latter one?) and I don't think I got an answer before. Idk if the math adds up, but did his vote matter in the end? He could've just thrown meat to the wolves (lel) when he knew that he was going down (or weakly bus knowing that either one of them will go down either way).
JennyHell
On July 30 2014 04:51 DCLXVI wrote:
Some scum do just sit back and ask questions about other people/the game, not actually contributing much GlowingBear. It was a decent way to get the real conversation started however, and now that everyone is here (except meatpudding?) we can actually play.
We actually did get some information from jennyhell from your question. We can expect her to be attentive and on the ball, if she starts lurking we should look into it.
Very minimal interaction, kinda awkward too, but most likely he wanted to keep his options open, since she was trolling some with Banks, and I'm not sure if people town read her as much as everyone did later.
lilwade
This is very interesting. He's all like "Are you sure about what you just said, huh?" and then does two things after, one of which was to immediately "accuse" him AND then later stop his push on Banks.
First kind of implies lilwade being town, and the second mafia, but I think he most likely stopped pushing Banks because people were generally reading Banks as town.
On July 30 2014 05:49 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 05:32 lilwade wrote:On July 30 2014 05:23 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 05:22 lilwade wrote:On July 30 2014 05:14 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 30 2014 04:14 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 04:09 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 30 2014 04:07 lilwade wrote:
Just gauging reactions m8, I like to get to know who I am playing with. I just thought it was funny you changed your vote just based on that. But hey, that might be your playstyle. I don't like this post. You might actually be mafia. Why do you think so? Apologetic to me seemed to be understanding of my style... bump that he doesn't know me maybe this is exactly how I play as mafia. Felt like he knew I was town and wanted to be sorta friendly not really start anything early. ##Unvote: tehpoofter Want to explain your vote a bit? Testing peoples actions and reactions, tehpoofter is the most town person in the game right now. Are you sure about that? He says he will come up with a list of his ideas on people, then posts mostly spam afterwards. Maybe he wasn't joking about mafia on mafia action?
Tehpoofter
Going to save everyone's time and skip this confirmed wolfie. <3
Lord Tolkien
Had ZERO interaction with Tolkien. This is someone I will focus rereading a bit.
Seeyalater
On July 30 2014 11:54 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 11:48 Seeyalater wrote:On July 30 2014 11:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
Roman Numeral Guy I would officially no longer bang. Care to elaborate? Oh man I know I just went off on Teemursu on this if you don't follow up on this or post your opinions too I will not be happy.
As I said before, I'm not really sure what to think of this, he never voted or pushed on Seeyalater. I kind of want to hear from Seeyalater, since he said the following, which makes me consider that mafia tried to push the idea that there was one mafia between us two, while we're both town:
On July 31 2014 16:42 Seeyalater wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 12:56 Teemursu wrote:
I read his case and it was mostly about me switching my read on Seeyalater. First, he's like, "why aren't YOU using your vote to kill mafia" and that I'm scummy for not trying to get Seeyalater lynched, but the problem is that I don't know who the mafia aye,lol.
Me not being sure about Seeyalater and then using my vote to pressure you doesn't really make me mafia. Neither can I really defend myself about not voting until pinged to do so, like, big deal?
Idk feels like he it's trying to make up stuff to get me misslynched, but I would rather see mp dead today I'll get to other posts in a little bit(was busy for a few hours practicing DaS2 speedruns), but I have also noticed that both of us are getting pushed for not voting for each other when it was still early in the day.
This is kind of the reason why I started leaning more town on Seeyalater. I kind of have to wait and hear his answer on who pushed him, though.
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On August 01 2014 01:07 JennyHell wrote:
Gooooooooooooooooood morning, and my my my what a good morning it is!
1 down, boys! This is awesome!
That brutal description though of the death, eek!
Let's see what horrors the night phase brings. Also, we can all talk during a night phase, wooot.
Yeah, pretty weird, huh?
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On August 01 2014 00:50 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 00:44 Teemursu wrote:
Seeyalater, you said earlier that people kind of pressured us to vote on each other, or something. 666 pressured me for not voting on you and I just wanted to know, who was the one that pressured you to vote on me?
Whoever did that to you could be mafia with 666 trying to make us think there's a mafia between one of us, maybe. There is a mafia between you. I'm trying to figure out who. Source: vote count
Idk if this is true yet, since the votes towards the end weren't consolidated by that much. I'll leave the vote logic to Banks and he's probably the only one I can trust about it.
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If there is one person I could be wrong about, it's GB, I guess, but I want to trust the logic that scum is kind of unlikely to interact with each other when there is a bigger town:scum ratio in the game.
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On August 01 2014 01:08 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 01:07 JennyHell wrote:
Gooooooooooooooooood morning, and my my my what a good morning it is!
1 down, boys! This is awesome!
That brutal description though of the death, eek!
Let's see what horrors the night phase brings. Also, we can all talk during a night phase, wooot. Yeah, pretty weird, huh?
Super weird!
But awesome!
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On August 01 2014 01:10 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 00:50 GlowingBear wrote:On August 01 2014 00:44 Teemursu wrote:
Seeyalater, you said earlier that people kind of pressured us to vote on each other, or something. 666 pressured me for not voting on you and I just wanted to know, who was the one that pressured you to vote on me?
Whoever did that to you could be mafia with 666 trying to make us think there's a mafia between one of us, maybe. There is a mafia between you. I'm trying to figure out who. Source: vote count Idk if this is true yet, since the votes towards the end weren't consolidated by that much. I'll leave the vote logic to Banks and he's probably the only one I can trust about it.
Wait, what? Votes were 4 on meatpudding (set to be lynched) and 4 on 666. You don't think this is consolidated?
Basic vote logic: not considering a little WIFOMy scenario, mafia wouldn't probably vote on themselves. Therefore, lets check people who are voting on someone else.
That leaves only you and Seeyalater. Meatpudding decided not to vote on himself so an ok logic.
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On August 01 2014 01:36 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 01:10 Teemursu wrote:On August 01 2014 00:50 GlowingBear wrote:On August 01 2014 00:44 Teemursu wrote:
Seeyalater, you said earlier that people kind of pressured us to vote on each other, or something. 666 pressured me for not voting on you and I just wanted to know, who was the one that pressured you to vote on me?
Whoever did that to you could be mafia with 666 trying to make us think there's a mafia between one of us, maybe. There is a mafia between you. I'm trying to figure out who. Source: vote count Idk if this is true yet, since the votes towards the end weren't consolidated by that much. I'll leave the vote logic to Banks and he's probably the only one I can trust about it. Wait, what? Votes were 4 on meatpudding (set to be lynched) and 4 on 666. You don't think this is consolidated? Basic vote logic: not considering a little WIFOMy scenario, mafia wouldn't probably vote on themselves. Therefore, lets check people who are voting on someone else. That leaves only you and Seeyalater. Meatpudding decided not to vote on himself so an ok logic.
In the end, it was 5-3.
It's not a WIFOM scenario, mafia vote on mafia all the time if they see their member go down. If what you said was true 100% of the time and ONLY town voted on 666, from my PoV the mafia team would be 100% confirmed Seeyalater and meatpudding, and Idk if that is the case yet.
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On August 01 2014 01:41 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 01:36 GlowingBear wrote:On August 01 2014 01:10 Teemursu wrote:On August 01 2014 00:50 GlowingBear wrote:On August 01 2014 00:44 Teemursu wrote:
Seeyalater, you said earlier that people kind of pressured us to vote on each other, or something. 666 pressured me for not voting on you and I just wanted to know, who was the one that pressured you to vote on me?
Whoever did that to you could be mafia with 666 trying to make us think there's a mafia between one of us, maybe. There is a mafia between you. I'm trying to figure out who. Source: vote count Idk if this is true yet, since the votes towards the end weren't consolidated by that much. I'll leave the vote logic to Banks and he's probably the only one I can trust about it. Wait, what? Votes were 4 on meatpudding (set to be lynched) and 4 on 666. You don't think this is consolidated? Basic vote logic: not considering a little WIFOMy scenario, mafia wouldn't probably vote on themselves. Therefore, lets check people who are voting on someone else. That leaves only you and Seeyalater. Meatpudding decided not to vote on himself so an ok logic. In the end, it was 5-3. It's not a WIFOM scenario, mafia vote on mafia all the time if they see their member go down. If what you said was true 100% of the time and ONLY town voted on 666, from my PoV the mafia team would be 100% confirmed Seeyalater and meatpudding, and Idk if that is the case yet.
Yeah, I do understand what you say, but you gotta admit that the probability of what I've brought is higher.
In the end it was 5-3 because I switched from meatpudding to 666. Check my filter and my reasoning. Top town now?
BUT MAFIA KILL MEATPUDDING HE IS BLUUUUUE
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On August 01 2014 01:45 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 01:41 Teemursu wrote:On August 01 2014 01:36 GlowingBear wrote:On August 01 2014 01:10 Teemursu wrote:On August 01 2014 00:50 GlowingBear wrote:On August 01 2014 00:44 Teemursu wrote:
Seeyalater, you said earlier that people kind of pressured us to vote on each other, or something. 666 pressured me for not voting on you and I just wanted to know, who was the one that pressured you to vote on me?
Whoever did that to you could be mafia with 666 trying to make us think there's a mafia between one of us, maybe. There is a mafia between you. I'm trying to figure out who. Source: vote count Idk if this is true yet, since the votes towards the end weren't consolidated by that much. I'll leave the vote logic to Banks and he's probably the only one I can trust about it. Wait, what? Votes were 4 on meatpudding (set to be lynched) and 4 on 666. You don't think this is consolidated? Basic vote logic: not considering a little WIFOMy scenario, mafia wouldn't probably vote on themselves. Therefore, lets check people who are voting on someone else. That leaves only you and Seeyalater. Meatpudding decided not to vote on himself so an ok logic. In the end, it was 5-3. It's not a WIFOM scenario, mafia vote on mafia all the time if they see their member go down. If what you said was true 100% of the time and ONLY town voted on 666, from my PoV the mafia team would be 100% confirmed Seeyalater and meatpudding, and Idk if that is the case yet. Yeah, I do understand what you say, but you gotta admit that the probability of what I've brought is higher. In the end it was 5-3 because I switched from meatpudding to 666. Check my filter and my reasoning. Top town now? BUT MAFIA KILL MEATPUDDING HE IS BLUUUUUE
No, I get that, and I'm not calling you mafia (check my post about 666's interactions), but your vote kind of makes the least amount of difference, because meat looked like he was going down anyway. And I do n't know the probability of what you're proposing. Mafia is a game about reads, not probability. If you go by probability only, all games would only have like one possible outcome (obviously the extreme scenario, but you get my point?).
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Ok, 3 things, while I nom on some bacon and cheese risotto.
1. What the bleep is WIFOM, never heard that abbreviation before.
2. To me noone is confirmed town apart from myself. Confirmed means 100% positive, and I can't even say I am about my husband.
3. Meatpudding, take this nightphase to explain to us the logic you were trying to put forth. Why did you go so hard on Teemu, why did you decide to defend someone else than yourself when you were both on the block?
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