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Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
July 31 2014 17:21 GMT
#741
On August 01 2014 02:12 JennyHell wrote:
Ok, 3 things, while I nom on some bacon and cheese risotto.

1. What the bleep is WIFOM, never heard that abbreviation before.

2. To me noone is confirmed town apart from myself. Confirmed means 100% positive, and I can't even say I am about my husband.

3. Meatpudding, take this nightphase to explain to us the logic you were trying to put forth. Why did you go so hard on Teemu, why did you decide to defend someone else than yourself when you were both on the block?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM



Basically it's saying like,

Ok, I am town because I would never kill someone who reads me as town (in the night).

You could say it's a WIFOM, because you're using reverse psychology/you did it just because you could say that now.

That person then could respond that, well, you could be mafia making those kills, making me look bad and push on me by saying that I killed that person in the night so that I could say what I said.

Then, reverse reverse reverse psychology.

etc etc etc.

It's basically an endless loop that's based on reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse psychology.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 17:24 GMT
#742
On August 01 2014 02:21 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 02:12 JennyHell wrote:
Ok, 3 things, while I nom on some bacon and cheese risotto.

1. What the bleep is WIFOM, never heard that abbreviation before.

2. To me noone is confirmed town apart from myself. Confirmed means 100% positive, and I can't even say I am about my husband.

3. Meatpudding, take this nightphase to explain to us the logic you were trying to put forth. Why did you go so hard on Teemu, why did you decide to defend someone else than yourself when you were both on the block?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_eZmEiyTo0

Basically it's saying like,

Ok, I am town because I would never kill someone who reads me as town (in the night).

You could say it's a WIFOM, because you're using reverse psychology/you did it just because you could say that now.

That person then could respond that, well, you could be mafia making those kills, making me look bad and push on me by saying that I killed that person in the night so that I could say what I said.

Then, reverse reverse reverse psychology.

etc etc etc.

It's basically an endless loop that's based on reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse psychology.


Oooooh.. Thanks
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 31 2014 17:26 GMT
#743
On August 01 2014 01:48 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 01:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 01:41 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 01:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 01:10 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 00:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 00:44 Teemursu wrote:
Seeyalater, you said earlier that people kind of pressured us to vote on each other, or something. 666 pressured me for not voting on you and I just wanted to know, who was the one that pressured you to vote on me?

Whoever did that to you could be mafia with 666 trying to make us think there's a mafia between one of us, maybe.


There is a mafia between you. I'm trying to figure out who.
Source: vote count

Idk if this is true yet, since the votes towards the end weren't consolidated by that much. I'll leave the vote logic to Banks and he's probably the only one I can trust about it.


Wait, what? Votes were 4 on meatpudding (set to be lynched) and 4 on 666. You don't think this is consolidated?
Basic vote logic: not considering a little WIFOMy scenario, mafia wouldn't probably vote on themselves. Therefore, lets check people who are voting on someone else.
That leaves only you and Seeyalater. Meatpudding decided not to vote on himself so an ok logic.

In the end, it was 5-3.

It's not a WIFOM scenario, mafia vote on mafia all the time if they see their member go down. If what you said was true 100% of the time and ONLY town voted on 666, from my PoV the mafia team would be 100% confirmed Seeyalater and meatpudding, and Idk if that is the case yet.


Yeah, I do understand what you say, but you gotta admit that the probability of what I've brought is higher.

In the end it was 5-3 because I switched from meatpudding to 666. Check my filter and my reasoning. Top town now?
BUT MAFIA KILL MEATPUDDING HE IS BLUUUUUE


No, I get that, and I'm not calling you mafia (check my post about 666's interactions), but your vote kind of makes the least amount of difference, because meat looked like he was going down anyway. And I do n't know the probability of what you're proposing. Mafia is a game about reads, not probability. If you go by probability only, all games would only have like one possible outcome (obviously the extreme scenario, but you get my point?).


Yeah I get it. But what in trying to say is that mafia is more likely to vote for a townie than vote for a mafia an keep the vote there. You may base you play solely on reading people's posts, but you should have what I said in mind.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 31 2014 17:33 GMT
#744
@Vizzini

Never go against a Brazilian when death is on the line
Huehuehuehue
Huehuehue
Hu3
7x1 X_x
I'm adorable.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
July 31 2014 17:36 GMT
#745
On August 01 2014 02:33 GlowingBear wrote:
@Vizzini

Never go against a Brazilian when death is on the line
Huehuehuehue
Huehuehue
Hu3
7x1 X_x

lolwut
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
July 31 2014 17:37 GMT
#746
On August 01 2014 02:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 01:48 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 01:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 01:41 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 01:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 01:10 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 00:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 00:44 Teemursu wrote:
Seeyalater, you said earlier that people kind of pressured us to vote on each other, or something. 666 pressured me for not voting on you and I just wanted to know, who was the one that pressured you to vote on me?

Whoever did that to you could be mafia with 666 trying to make us think there's a mafia between one of us, maybe.


There is a mafia between you. I'm trying to figure out who.
Source: vote count

Idk if this is true yet, since the votes towards the end weren't consolidated by that much. I'll leave the vote logic to Banks and he's probably the only one I can trust about it.


Wait, what? Votes were 4 on meatpudding (set to be lynched) and 4 on 666. You don't think this is consolidated?
Basic vote logic: not considering a little WIFOMy scenario, mafia wouldn't probably vote on themselves. Therefore, lets check people who are voting on someone else.
That leaves only you and Seeyalater. Meatpudding decided not to vote on himself so an ok logic.

In the end, it was 5-3.

It's not a WIFOM scenario, mafia vote on mafia all the time if they see their member go down. If what you said was true 100% of the time and ONLY town voted on 666, from my PoV the mafia team would be 100% confirmed Seeyalater and meatpudding, and Idk if that is the case yet.


Yeah, I do understand what you say, but you gotta admit that the probability of what I've brought is higher.

In the end it was 5-3 because I switched from meatpudding to 666. Check my filter and my reasoning. Top town now?
BUT MAFIA KILL MEATPUDDING HE IS BLUUUUUE


No, I get that, and I'm not calling you mafia (check my post about 666's interactions), but your vote kind of makes the least amount of difference, because meat looked like he was going down anyway. And I do n't know the probability of what you're proposing. Mafia is a game about reads, not probability. If you go by probability only, all games would only have like one possible outcome (obviously the extreme scenario, but you get my point?).


Yeah I get it. But what in trying to say is that mafia is more likely to vote for a townie than vote for a mafia an keep the vote there. You may base you play solely on reading people's posts, but you should have what I said in mind.

Obviously it's one of the things to keep in mind when evaluating someone, I'm just saying that I don't think the scum team from my perspective should 100% be Seeyalater and meatpudding (of which both are great cop checks tonight).
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 31 2014 17:44 GMT
#747
On July 31 2014 23:20 Teemursu wrote:
Unlike what Banks said as a medic I would probably save him and not Jenny (unless there is a blue read).


Good thing ur not medic I'm a terrible save. Jenny like super confirmed.


Good job on Roman numeral guy. That means we have three lunches to get it right. Meatface/seeyalater and maybe teemu wins 80%of games.

You first two need to start spewing town. I think the last is seeyalater.


We killed mafia day 1 ladies I'm so proud!!!!!!!
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
July 31 2014 17:50 GMT
#748
On August 01 2014 02:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 23:20 Teemursu wrote:
Unlike what Banks said as a medic I would probably save him and not Jenny (unless there is a blue read).


Good thing ur not medic I'm a terrible save. Jenny like super confirmed.


Good job on Roman numeral guy. That means we have three lunches to get it right. Meatface/seeyalater and maybe teemu wins 80%of games.

You first two need to start spewing town. I think the last is seeyalater.


We killed mafia day 1 ladies I'm so proud!!!!!!!

Well, as she said, no one's confirmed, but based on day 1, you did the most to push on 666, I think, which makes you pretty towny in my eyes?

Also, it's even better if you don't think I'm the medic.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 31 2014 18:44 GMT
#749
On August 01 2014 02:50 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 02:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:20 Teemursu wrote:
Unlike what Banks said as a medic I would probably save him and not Jenny (unless there is a blue read).


Good thing ur not medic I'm a terrible save. Jenny like super confirmed.


Good job on Roman numeral guy. That means we have three lunches to get it right. Meatface/seeyalater and maybe teemu wins 80%of games.

You first two need to start spewing town. I think the last is seeyalater.


We killed mafia day 1 ladies I'm so proud!!!!!!!

Well, as she said, no one's confirmed, but based on day 1, you did the most to push on 666, I think, which makes you pretty towny in my eyes?

Also, it's even better if you don't think I'm the medic.


Are you mafia, Teemu?
I'm adorable.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
July 31 2014 19:10 GMT
#750
On August 01 2014 03:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 02:50 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:20 Teemursu wrote:
Unlike what Banks said as a medic I would probably save him and not Jenny (unless there is a blue read).


Good thing ur not medic I'm a terrible save. Jenny like super confirmed.


Good job on Roman numeral guy. That means we have three lunches to get it right. Meatface/seeyalater and maybe teemu wins 80%of games.

You first two need to start spewing town. I think the last is seeyalater.


We killed mafia day 1 ladies I'm so proud!!!!!!!

Well, as she said, no one's confirmed, but based on day 1, you did the most to push on 666, I think, which makes you pretty towny in my eyes?

Also, it's even better if you don't think I'm the medic.


Are you mafia, Teemu?


No, why do you think I might be?
Seeyalater
Profile Joined July 2014
United States217 Posts
July 31 2014 19:11 GMT
#751
On August 01 2014 00:44 Teemursu wrote:
Seeyalater, you said earlier that people kind of pressured us to vote on each other, or something. 666 pressured me for not voting on you and I just wanted to know, who was the one that pressured you to vote on me?

Whoever did that to you could be mafia with 666 trying to make us think there's a mafia between one of us, maybe.

I'm still trying to play catch up here, woke up like 30 minutes ago and at work currently but let me look.

Also did not know we got to see a lynch's alignment, that's pretty cool. Go town!

I'm going to spend some time evaluating everything up until now, so although I'll be around, I probably won't post long meaningful posts for a while.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 31 2014 19:13 GMT
#752
On August 01 2014 04:10 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:44 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:50 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:20 Teemursu wrote:
Unlike what Banks said as a medic I would probably save him and not Jenny (unless there is a blue read).


Good thing ur not medic I'm a terrible save. Jenny like super confirmed.


Good job on Roman numeral guy. That means we have three lunches to get it right. Meatface/seeyalater and maybe teemu wins 80%of games.

You first two need to start spewing town. I think the last is seeyalater.


We killed mafia day 1 ladies I'm so proud!!!!!!!

Well, as she said, no one's confirmed, but based on day 1, you did the most to push on 666, I think, which makes you pretty towny in my eyes?

Also, it's even better if you don't think I'm the medic.


Are you mafia, Teemu?


No, why do you think I might be?


You're hinting you are the medic when we have no idea who can be medic. It didn't sound like you were trying to take a bullet so... Why saying that?
If I misread anything let me know... I slept too little and I am not absorbing information very well lol
I'm adorable.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
July 31 2014 19:17 GMT
#753
On August 01 2014 04:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 04:10 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:44 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:50 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:20 Teemursu wrote:
Unlike what Banks said as a medic I would probably save him and not Jenny (unless there is a blue read).


Good thing ur not medic I'm a terrible save. Jenny like super confirmed.


Good job on Roman numeral guy. That means we have three lunches to get it right. Meatface/seeyalater and maybe teemu wins 80%of games.

You first two need to start spewing town. I think the last is seeyalater.


We killed mafia day 1 ladies I'm so proud!!!!!!!

Well, as she said, no one's confirmed, but based on day 1, you did the most to push on 666, I think, which makes you pretty towny in my eyes?

Also, it's even better if you don't think I'm the medic.


Are you mafia, Teemu?


No, why do you think I might be?


You're hinting you are the medic when we have no idea who can be medic. It didn't sound like you were trying to take a bullet so... Why saying that?
If I misread anything let me know... I slept too little and I am not absorbing information very well lol

I think you're being silly again, like you were with Koshi...

Nothing that I say tonight I think will make mafia think I'm a blue too much, mostly because I'm not sure how I can hint at it. At least I can confuse them a little bit and try to make their rolehunting a little more difficult.

Too bad I had to explain this openly, though.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 19:19 GMT
#754
Haha, some of the logic of people is just so wacko. Why even call Teemu out for it when others did it multiple times during d1? It just doesn't make sense. Stop trying to help mafia by clearing their questionmarks out for them.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
July 31 2014 19:20 GMT
#755
On August 01 2014 04:19 JennyHell wrote:
Haha, some of the logic of people is just so wacko. Why even call Teemu out for it when others did it multiple times during d1? It just doesn't make sense. Stop trying to help mafia by clearing their questionmarks out for them.

I'm not saying it's a good thing that I would be cleared to mafia, but I'm not saying it's a bad thing either. LOL.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 31 2014 19:21 GMT
#756
On August 01 2014 04:17 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 04:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 04:10 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:44 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:50 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:20 Teemursu wrote:
Unlike what Banks said as a medic I would probably save him and not Jenny (unless there is a blue read).


Good thing ur not medic I'm a terrible save. Jenny like super confirmed.


Good job on Roman numeral guy. That means we have three lunches to get it right. Meatface/seeyalater and maybe teemu wins 80%of games.

You first two need to start spewing town. I think the last is seeyalater.


We killed mafia day 1 ladies I'm so proud!!!!!!!

Well, as she said, no one's confirmed, but based on day 1, you did the most to push on 666, I think, which makes you pretty towny in my eyes?

Also, it's even better if you don't think I'm the medic.


Are you mafia, Teemu?


No, why do you think I might be?


You're hinting you are the medic when we have no idea who can be medic. It didn't sound like you were trying to take a bullet so... Why saying that?
If I misread anything let me know... I slept too little and I am not absorbing information very well lol

I think you're being silly again, like you were with Koshi...

Nothing that I say tonight I think will make mafia think I'm a blue too much, mostly because I'm not sure how I can hint at it. At least I can confuse them a little bit and try to make their rolehunting a little more difficult.

Too bad I had to explain this openly, though.


I'm not accusing you of anything, it was a genuine question.

There is a high possibility of this being an all vanilla set up. Pretty sure Haru loved the game hosted by slam.
I'm adorable.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
July 31 2014 19:21 GMT
#757
GB it's not like a Medic is going to CC me because I'm being a little "trolley".
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
July 31 2014 19:22 GMT
#758
On August 01 2014 04:21 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 04:17 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 04:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 04:10 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:44 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:50 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:20 Teemursu wrote:
Unlike what Banks said as a medic I would probably save him and not Jenny (unless there is a blue read).


Good thing ur not medic I'm a terrible save. Jenny like super confirmed.


Good job on Roman numeral guy. That means we have three lunches to get it right. Meatface/seeyalater and maybe teemu wins 80%of games.

You first two need to start spewing town. I think the last is seeyalater.


We killed mafia day 1 ladies I'm so proud!!!!!!!

Well, as she said, no one's confirmed, but based on day 1, you did the most to push on 666, I think, which makes you pretty towny in my eyes?

Also, it's even better if you don't think I'm the medic.


Are you mafia, Teemu?


No, why do you think I might be?


You're hinting you are the medic when we have no idea who can be medic. It didn't sound like you were trying to take a bullet so... Why saying that?
If I misread anything let me know... I slept too little and I am not absorbing information very well lol

I think you're being silly again, like you were with Koshi...

Nothing that I say tonight I think will make mafia think I'm a blue too much, mostly because I'm not sure how I can hint at it. At least I can confuse them a little bit and try to make their rolehunting a little more difficult.

Too bad I had to explain this openly, though.


I'm not accusing you of anything, it was a genuine question.

There is a high possibility of this being an all vanilla set up. Pretty sure Haru loved the game hosted by slam.


If it's a genuine question, what else do you think you're going to get out of it besides a simple "'No"?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 31 2014 19:22 GMT
#759
On August 01 2014 04:19 JennyHell wrote:
Haha, some of the logic of people is just so wacko. Why even call Teemu out for it when others did it multiple times during d1? It just doesn't make sense. Stop trying to help mafia by clearing their questionmarks out for them.


Saying someone is blue daytime =\= saying someone is blue night time.
I don't think mafia is stupid enough for believing that hint from Teemu.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 31 2014 19:24 GMT
#760
On August 01 2014 04:22 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 04:21 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 04:17 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 04:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 04:10 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:44 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:50 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:20 Teemursu wrote:
Unlike what Banks said as a medic I would probably save him and not Jenny (unless there is a blue read).


Good thing ur not medic I'm a terrible save. Jenny like super confirmed.


Good job on Roman numeral guy. That means we have three lunches to get it right. Meatface/seeyalater and maybe teemu wins 80%of games.

You first two need to start spewing town. I think the last is seeyalater.


We killed mafia day 1 ladies I'm so proud!!!!!!!

Well, as she said, no one's confirmed, but based on day 1, you did the most to push on 666, I think, which makes you pretty towny in my eyes?

Also, it's even better if you don't think I'm the medic.


Are you mafia, Teemu?


No, why do you think I might be?


You're hinting you are the medic when we have no idea who can be medic. It didn't sound like you were trying to take a bullet so... Why saying that?
If I misread anything let me know... I slept too little and I am not absorbing information very well lol

I think you're being silly again, like you were with Koshi...

Nothing that I say tonight I think will make mafia think I'm a blue too much, mostly because I'm not sure how I can hint at it. At least I can confuse them a little bit and try to make their rolehunting a little more difficult.

Too bad I had to explain this openly, though.


I'm not accusing you of anything, it was a genuine question.

There is a high possibility of this being an all vanilla set up. Pretty sure Haru loved the game hosted by slam.


If it's a genuine question, what else do you think you're going to get out of it besides a simple "'No"?


Genuine question = "why saying that?"
I'm adorable.
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