EPTAlso did you scumslip in your first post?
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Also did you scumslip in your first post? | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On June 18 2014 05:38 mderg wrote: My logic was different. I never said that they cannot both be scum. I also didn´t point out several things out that were alignment unindicative, it was one point made by YKZ that I don´t think is actually scummy. The things I didn´t like about her were the focus on the "scumslip" by YKZ, the thing about Release and townreading Artanis. Clearly more things that I think are scummy than things not alignment indicative. The thing(s) I pointed out that weren´t alignment indicative were points brought up by YKZ which I didn´t really agree with. That´s the reason for bringing it up. I think you´re "defending" me for the wrong reasons. SNIP Ops, I really missread quite badly when I looked at your post. It makes more sense now, though I still think the case is bad. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
I also don't believe you're dumb enough to consider that a scumslip. Further proof of scumminess. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On June 18 2014 05:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: BH, policy: Lynch all D1 replacements. In the past two cell games I hosted I think 4/5 replacements were mafia. It's a solid policy. Make the right lynch. Lynch Koshi. Sarcasm or just really really bad? | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On June 17 2014 15:42 goodkarma wrote: --snip-- And it's not like he's been eager to engage in conversation with you or investigate or get others to side with him. And yet he's just very much so convinced you're scum... When I present information, it now exists for town to discuss, and in my case against YKZ, it puts the onus on him to disprove my arguments. However, he has repeatedly chosen to dismiss my points and provide meaningless hypothetical defenses. This is why he seems so scum to me and remains scum more than anyone else. With regard to the Mderg situation: His first post is bad because of it vacillation but at least he takes a firm stance at the end (albeit for somewhat unclear reasons). He also accuses VE for a lack of specificity but does to a lesser extent the same thing with Artanis and SloOsh. And to a lesser extent than YKZ, he seems more focussed on himself than most others. To me he is one the the weaker candidates for mafia outside YKZ. @Lazer Someone whom I think is a stronger candidate for mafia outside YKZ is Snickers. At the beginning of the game, he casts suspsicion on 27nb following YKZ, supports the Kenpachi rule and encourages further discussion of it. Then he makes some slightly unclear buddy up to YKZ posts. Then he supports me, the he flipflops on me following a not so good case on me by artansis. He harps quite a bit on the "information" and blue talk even after I try multiple times to dissuade him from doing so. He even says "I am leaning pretty hard to vote for you. Especially when two people have posted how your post had such a great timing." And if that weren't enough, he hops straight onto the Mderg train. This is a little bit of bluehunting covered by a boatload of bandwagoning. His agenda feels like one in which he wants to blend into the town instead of making his own reads and arguments. At first, I pardoned him because he wasn't as stubborn as YKZ but this level of bandwagoning suggests to me that he is more likely scum than town. Artanis is on my suspicion list because he his reasoning against me been (I strongly believe) wrong, but he has been firm but not stubborn or inordinately foccused on one topic. His dismissal of YKZ vs 27nb is something that suggests he may be mafia with one of YKZ (my pick) or 27nb but that is a bit of a stretch atm. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 18 2014 05:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't believe you Koshi, statistics dictate that you're scum. Statistics also say I'm he guy that's actually town. I don't become bffs with scum I also don't believe you're dumb enough to consider that a scumslip. Further proof of scumminess. 4 times I replaced, 4 times town. Anyhoezels. I am on page 5. | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On June 18 2014 05:33 YouKnowZhou wrote: Where's bunnies right now, when we have more stuff to discuss? Sure, I'm not engaging the thread and talking about mderg (though nobody wants to summarise mderg stuff for me and I'm too lazy/busy at dinner to deal with it right now) but 27nb is conveniently gone! Yes, 27nb who could only think about my first post, who kenpachi rule, then kenpachi rule extended so hard, that if 27nb is scum you would all have to admit that kenpachi rule is the best policy. And yet here we are, with no votes on 27nb, and you know why? It's because you are weak. You are afraid, you don't trust the kenpachi rule. I understand, it's scary to put your faith in a rule. But when it comes down to it, kenpachi rule WORKS. Historically. People dislike the kenpachi rule, but try finding a better method of lynching people D1. RNG might cut it, but not in a game like this with a single faction. The only thing you can trust on D1 is Kenpachi Rule in a game like this imo I think you are putting way too much faith into the Kenpachi rule. I do think its a good tool to hunt scum but I wouldn't base too much of my lynch around it. I have played games where the rule didn't work. In the end Bunnies is by far the most active player in the game right now. I don't even agree with half of her reads but she does at least post reads and is being very open with her thoughts. I don't want to lynch a player like that, despite the fact that she looks bad by the Kenpachi rule. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7468 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I didn't read big posts though. skimmed them. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
Don't pursue a career in tone reading. On June 18 2014 06:15 Koshi wrote: Well. I read everything. I got nothing. I didn't read big posts though. skimmed them. Not even the tiniest of tiny scum/townreads? No questions? I find that very hard to believe. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
On June 18 2014 05:58 Release wrote: Artanis is on my suspicion list because he his reasoning against me been (I strongly believe) wrong, but he has been firm but not stubborn or inordinately foccused on one topic. His dismissal of YKZ vs 27nb is something that suggests he may be mafia with one of YKZ (my pick) or 27nb but that is a bit of a stretch atm. I didn't know being wrong was suspicious. I don't understand why I'm on your suspicion list when this is all you provide for it. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On June 18 2014 06:11 Chezinu wrote: Mafia is so chill that they are not even coming after me. *stretch* Looks like the game is about to start. You guys got to ask yo selves, who loves Chez? I am waiting with bated breath. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On June 17 2014 08:28 27ninjabunnies wrote: Gah, Release is sooo town for me. I would really like to hear an explanation on this. I mean this is a strong read, surely you have something to say on the subject. On June 17 2014 09:53 27ninjabunnies wrote: This vote on me is absolutely awful. I don't have the will to argue against it tonight, so I'll do it tomorrow. Night. Given that this is what she leaves us with. No reads or anything else, YKZ's case against her is looking to have some cred. I would very much so like to hear from her who her lead suspects are. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On June 18 2014 06:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I didn't know being wrong was suspicious. I don't understand why I'm on your suspicion list when this is all you provide for it. Wrong more than once about the same thing (my rehash repetiveness) even after SloOsh's statements. It's slight but more significant to me than null. | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
We should definitely look into VE and Snickers, though. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
I'm going to go read through nb and mderg again and make up my mind. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
Ykz if u want to see my case on mderg look at the second page of my filter. Many of you say I made an association between ykz and bunnies. I still do not see this. I have already explained why. Also I never said bad play equals scum. I said it hints towards it. Somebody said 27nb had posted the most. I am preatty sure I have . Less posts more info packed. I will maybe be able to switch my vote before the lynch. I will only switch it if it will make a difference. Also most likely will only switch to release. I will not have time to post info or read all the info in the next two hours. ( I assume a lot will be posted) Also thought it should be noted that I can't believe ykz and 27nb are both being evaluated this much. I haven't seen either post something that could be very scummy since their first posts. I think others have been saying prty scummy things since. For example I cannot believe no one (maybe one person) saw the weirdness in mdergs first post. I think his reply to me is very weak. He was slightly leaning bunnies, not heavily like he is saying now. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
Good night! | ||
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