EPTHolyflare, unvoted because that last analysis of yours is the post that made the most sense to me since the beginnig of the game.
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Derrida
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Holyflare, unvoted because that last analysis of yours is the post that made the most sense to me since the beginnig of the game. | ||
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Giggletummy
Pitcairn200 Posts
How do you feel about the rest of derrida's filter, other than the couple posts you mentioned in your initial vote. Pull some specific things if you would. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On January 11 2014 03:16 Giggletummy wrote: @HF It's not an assumption. I personally find all the extra fluff to be anti-town. It adds pages, provides things to do for people that aren't scumhunting (even if you are using it for a purpose), and it fluffs your filter up. It also encourages rayn to add fluff now too. Regardless of what posting scooby doo stuff does for you, it has an effect on the rest of the thread, and it may not be helpful for everyone. Let alone the fact that people aren't "assuming" your scooby doo stuff to be anti-town, some people just think it is. Not an assumption, an opinion. For instance, I think it's anti-town right now. For instance, this is your opinion. You would be in a better spot if people played along. But other people may disagree. They're not assuming differently, they're not necessarily scummy for disagreeing, you are both assuming different things. @everyone that isn't HF, #HF *friendly rhinoceros noises* Holyflare attacks derrida for drawing conclusions between unflipped players. Holyflare has been drawing conclusions between unflipped players. Derrida does not turn hard on this and bop HF, but it's there. I don't care who you are; that's scummy right there. Why have you told people to vote me based on stuff that wasn't even true but not put a vote down yourself? | ||
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Giggletummy
Pitcairn200 Posts
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Giggletummy
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Giggletummy
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On January 11 2014 08:10 Giggletummy wrote: Specifically, I do think you've drawn some associations between players. You certainly have, in looking at who mocsta did or didn't respond to. Grabbing derrida's other game makes you look good though, and I agree with your statements that the two filters look different. That act alone is more than enough to make you a poor D1 lynch candidate in my opinion. Are you trying to portray my "associative tells" as bad because acting differently to a certain person is definitely substantial compared to derrida who drew associative tells based on.....? Yes, absolutely nothing. Yet you jumped on ME for that instead of him. Why is that? Why have you still failed to address anything that has happened surrounding derrida's almost lynch, his scummyness of his first posts to some people or his play thus far. All you have done is pretty much +1 what i've been saying now. | ||
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Giggletummy
Pitcairn200 Posts
On January 11 2014 08:35 Holyflare wrote: I don't care about anyone else's drawing of associative tells because I don't care about associative tells in a vacuum.Are you trying to portray my "associative tells" as bad because acting differently to a certain person is definitely substantial compared to derrida who drew associative tells based on.....? Yes, absolutely nothing. Yet you jumped on ME for that instead of him. Why is that? Why have you still failed to address anything that has happened surrounding derrida's almost lynch, his scummyness of his first posts to some people or his play thus far. All you have done is pretty much +1 what i've been saying now. I care that you make associations between mocsta and others while saying not to draw associative tells. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Vote Count Mocsta (0) - Derrida (1) - GGTeMpLaR (0) HolyFlare (0) raynpelikoneet (1) Artanis[Xp] Artanis[Xp] (1) raynpelikoneet With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Giggletummy
Pitcairn200 Posts
On January 11 2014 08:44 Holyflare wrote: Again, don't care why anyone is drawing associations, on what grounds, for the purposes of my comment on you. Only that you say not to while doing so.I think you're confusing linking 2 players together as an association of alignment with linking 2 people together based on suspicious behaviour. I drawn no conclusions of alignment from mocsta's choice of person to change his style on whereas derrida does based on interaction of unflipped players. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On January 11 2014 07:58 Giggletummy wrote: GG, how do you feel about the filters that HF posted? How do you feel about the rest of derrida's filter, other than the couple posts you mentioned in your initial vote. Pull some specific things if you would. I think he might be reading too much into Rayn's 'pretty' mini-game in light of his overall play, but regardless of that, I think Rayn's playful post made it slightly easier the scum to hide without actually obliging his pings for information because they can just ignore the request on the pretext that it's a joke post to begin with. HolyLight made the accusation much more direct though if he was right in saying that is what Rayn was getting at. I think instead of asking me what I thought of his accusations against three people who refuse to commit to reads on each other (one of which is yourself), you should actually address them yourself since they very much are against you. The very fact that you're still ignoring them and pinging me for my opinion of it reads scummy to me. If you're town in this situation you should have no problem giving your reads on Mocsta/Artanis. Artanis didn't mind at all, even if they were null/fence reads he still honestly gave them. You're stubbornly refusing/dodging the pressure while Mocsta is still lurking. Regarding the newer Derrida posts, I already gave my thoughts that they were scummy. I read Derrida's new posts as scummy because it seems like he's intentionally tunneling on HolyFlare because Holy/Rayn both said "GGTeMpLaR wouldn't tunnel so hard on Derrida if he were town" so he's trying to emulate a behavior by one player that read as town to other players. I'll grant him that this is true because all of the alignments HolyFlare have pointed out are based on things that are from the actual game and have nothing to do with scooby doo, despite his insistence that scooby doo game is solving the game. It does feel a little bit like he's sheeping the argument I already had against the scooby doo game though, but he brought up a lot of points that (even if I don't really agree with them) are unique. I'm less confident in my scumread on Derrida today, but I still think he's scummy. If you'd like me to further elaborate on his new posts, I think his saying this further feels like trying to sheep people to 'blend in' to the town. On January 10 2014 20:35 Derrida wrote: As I told you guys before, I am town. Please do not waste your precious time on analyzing my posts. Derrida confirmed town. His assumption for why HolyFlare is scum is literally the same argument I had with HolyFlare last night, except he's actually arguing what Holy/Rayn thought I was arguing when I was arguing something else. I also think it's scummy how he accused me of being with Holy for taking the most critical position against him. The only way I see him not being scum here is if he's paranoid town, and if that's the case, I'd think you are with Mocsta, which explains your unwillingness to acknowledge of HolyFlare's accusation against you by deflecting onto me and continued refusal to give any reads on the pair of Mocsta/Artanis. You just keep asking me questions about my reads without giving any of yours, and when you do critique my posts, you don't even get the context right of the arguments you use against me. When corrected by me pointing out the context, you ignore my counter-arguments and ask me more questions. ##Vote Giggle | ||
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Giggletummy
Pitcairn200 Posts
On January 11 2014 09:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote: My dear gg, it is difficult to ask you anything other than question. I cannot very well ask you platypi, or ask you trees. No no, that won't do. I'm afraid I'll stick to asking questions.You just keep asking me questions about my reads without giving any of yours, and when you do critique my posts, you don't even get the context right of the arguments you use against me. When corrected by me pointing out the context, you ignore my counter-arguments and ask me more questions. Did you read derrida's filter from his newbie game? | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On January 11 2014 09:12 Giggletummy wrote: My dear gg, it is difficult to ask you anything other than question. I cannot very well ask you platypi, or ask you trees. No no, that won't do. I'm afraid I'll stick to asking questions. Did you read derrida's filter from his newbie game? What are your thoughts on whether or not I read derrida's filter from his newbie game? How would a "yes" answer from me lead you to read me compared to a "no" answer from me? And more importantly, how is this relevant to your read on Mocsta/Artanis? | ||
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Giggletummy
Pitcairn200 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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Giggletummy
Pitcairn200 Posts
On January 11 2014 09:17 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Gotta give short answer for a moment. You were scummy on derrida. HF posted his stuff. You said you hadn't looked at past games. You told someone else, when asked, that you would look at them. What are your thoughts on whether or not I read derrida's filter from his newbie game? How would a "yes" answer from me lead you to read me compared to a "no" answer from me? And more importantly, how is this relevant to your read on Mocsta/Artanis? You never commented on them. You came back today, and were still calling him scummy. So there's something relevant to everyone else in derrida's filters that you are either disregarding for no reason, or refusing to look at. When this guy is a scumread of yours. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
I'm going over it right now though. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
I'm not going to townread him based on that fact alone but he's not my vote for today anyways. | ||
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Giggletummy
Pitcairn200 Posts
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