World Heavyweight Championship mafia - Page 67

On October 04 2013 17:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think sloosh is the only one who is even the least bit likely of those 4.
The rest are pretty much town.

On October 04 2013 17:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Clarity could have easily stood by and obstinantly declared that Sloosh was the wagon of justice and we should swap to his wagon. If he was scum with Sloosh it would be almost certainly the best play. Instead, his final vote just as the deadline approached, averted a no-lynch and ensured a scum-lynch.

Sloosh is the only guy on the Rayn wagon who IMO isn't basically confirmed town coming out of that exchange, since as scum one might easily imagine him deciding that the drunken and almost-wagoned rayn was unlikely to survive, and he, Sloosh, was the superior scum, the one who would be more likely to win if allowed to live past D1. I have no evidence for this theory, but honestly Sloosh is the only one who I could even begin to have a scumread on, and last I checked he seemed really townie to me.

Ultimately, most of what ANYONE has to say is irrelevant unless it shows one of the following is scum. And ultimately, the only one who can really potentially be scum is Sloosh.

Tell me if you have a scumread on any of The Four in light of recent events, and most importantly, why. Especially RE: Sloosh. I want to be able to wake up tomorrow, and read what you think and be able to write some good final thoughts for you guys to work off of. Also if there's a flaw with my "lynch marv, oats and dirk so town auto wins" strategy (besides the possibility of sloosh scum) let me know too.

On October 04 2013 19:15 marvellosity wrote:
if there's a plan, that sounds lovely. means i can stop thinking about the game.

should i read what i missed?

On October 04 2013 19:21 marvellosity wrote:
also why is slOosh town?

On October 04 2013 19:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why me clarity

On October 04 2013 19:28 Clarity_nl wrote:


I don't remember a single thing you've done this game

On October 04 2013 06:46 slOosh wrote:

I've already said in my initial post. You spend a couple of posts, solely stating "I don't know how I feel about BH. I don't want to lynch him though. But I don't know how I feel.", and showed no interest in actually pursuing that. Plus you shut down a possible rayn - BH interaction by answering on behalf of BH.

You did have some overlap with marv, but I took that to be too small a sample size. Given another 20+ pages, as well as some resilience to prodding, I don't feel as strong about the initial feelings.

On October 04 2013 06:48 slOosh wrote:
Plus I was contemplating a Clarity BH scum team. It made sense to me at the time.

On October 04 2013 07:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
sloosh has no reads but when people call people scum he agrees so easily.

On October 04 2013 07:53 slOosh wrote:
Am I agreeing to invalid reasons? I still find it strange that BH finds me town somehow, but he claimed doctor. Does that nullify my reasoning?

On October 04 2013 08:25 slOosh wrote:
So here's my problem marv. You say you respect my play. From your filter I glean that you have very iffy reads on Risen and Dirkzor. I also glean that your scum read of me is not substantially strong, mainly based on what I haven't done rather than what I have done.

And yet you are content to let me sail is disconcerting.

But objectively thinking that's me just being upset for being, what I feel like, as unfairly lynched. Maybe I did play really poorly. Ok. That's that.

Umm ...

Risen is #1 pick for having 0 followup on the clarity case. Additionally he finds rayn suspicious of finding him town, which is strange as if he was town that should be the norm. You don't actively look people with town reads on you and then do a PBPA on them.

Still don't see what the problem with Dirkzor is. I think he made an honest mistake with what he perceived as a contradiction in my view of Risen's case and my vote on Clarity.

Oats I probably feel moderate to strong town. We've played a bunch of games back to back so maybe that's where I'm getting it from. He is surprisingly consistent and even predictable, and his playstyle looks like that this game.

Rayn I don't know too much since the majority of his posts were in the 21~40 range, which I was only able to skim. Prior to that he was pretty lackluster. Lack of activity isn't alarming (I recall he has like a 12 hr job or something), but what he did with that time "I don't know what BH is doing" and then the lack of followup on him was lame.

Holyflare I felt like a meticulous person, very structured in his posts (My brain says this is what Oats initially voted him for, cause Oats doesn't like wordiness), so I relate with Holyflare. I would still take care not to let him blindside everyone b/c he is a newbie or whatever. Koshi did that during Sicilian I thinks.

This leaves the trio of Marv BH and clarity.
If BH didn't claim doctor I probably would still go after him.
I don't like marv, but only because I'm sulky.
Clarity as I have explained, you had intertwining earlier, and as i have said, I didn't feel like that was a large enough sample size. Scum can intertwine with town. But they usually won't over large portions of time, which is what pg 20~40 showed me.


Yup that's it. Umm ... I'm sort of ok with dying right now ... I've made peace with it. In anycase, here's my vote of confidence fwiw after my flip.
##Unvote: Blazinghand
##Vote: Risen

On October 04 2013 06:57 slOosh wrote:
Ok so I'm approaching this game from a Foolishness-esque townie elimination approach. Cause why not right? There's only 8 players to evaluate, and picking out townies can somewhat be easier than finding scum.

Right now there is a very lazy wagon on me, mostly from what I can tell, a lack of good alternatives. Scum would be ok with this. They want it to eventually land on me, but in the meantime they want to make a pretense of contribution (but not too much lest the wagon actually shifts).

So I'm working with a pool of rayn and BH ... ehhh ....

On October 04 2013 07:16 slOosh wrote:

I'm looking into rayn right now so we can talk about that soon after I finish.

In the meantime, could you explain how you have a strong town (not null) read on me?

On October 04 2013 07:56 slOosh wrote:
Clarity, summarize the case on me and why I'm a substantially, or even remotely better lynch than Risen or Dirkzor (or whoever).

On October 04 2013 08:25 slOosh wrote:
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Rayn I don't know too much since the majority of his posts were in the 21~40 range, which I was only able to skim. Prior to that he was pretty lackluster. Lack of activity isn't alarming (I recall he has like a 12 hr job or something), but what he did with that time "I don't know what BH is doing" and then the lack of followup on him was lame.

-snip-

Clarity as I have explained, you had intertwining earlier, and as i have said, I didn't feel like that was a large enough sample size. Scum can intertwine with town. But they usually won't over large portions of time, which is what pg 20~40 showed me.

-snip-

On October 03 2013 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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Sloosh: Scummy. I don't understand his townread on Dirk. Says he will get to Risen & HF when he has time. Never follows that up. Then votes for Clarity with his -- apparenly -- scumread Risen.
Dirkzor: Horrible opening post. Horrible follow up. Then he says he wants to lynch me or Sloosh, i don't see any reasons from him. When the thread sentiment turns into "Sloosh looks bad" (Clarity voting for him etc.), THEN he places his vote on Sloosh. Best lynch.

##Vote: Dirkzor

On October 04 2013 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so, i need to decide my vote now.
I prefer Dirkzor. Clarity you are bad or scum.
I guess my other options are Risen and Sloosh?

If i should switch marv tell me now who to switch on. I trust you the most. I don't wanna lynch Risen, i don't wanna lynch Sloosh either.. because they have not been here, and i can't tell what they are gonna say when they come back (if they do).
I don't accept Oats or marv as lynch.

On October 04 2013 02:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i do not think Sloosh is necessarily mafia. I do not think Risen is mafia.
I think Dirkzor is mafia.

I hope i am gonna be back before the deadline. cya fuckers!