EPTAperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 - Page 119
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Clarity_nl
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On September 03 2013 19:40 Koshi wrote: The problem is that he didn't play selfish. He played destructive. What about his actions was selfish? Axle: "So yeah, unless Alak pulls his head out of the sand and realises there were other townies playing this game and that he needs to do whatever is his best... Then as town or scum PM recipient given his play so far he is going to get lynched one day soon. " Not really considering that having hissy fit and rearranging the item effected everyone else who was town. Marry up the yes's in these two. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19662521 (last 3 sentences of my post get 'yes' 'yes' and an explanation of sorts) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19662559 I am not saying it wouldn't lynch the crap out of every other player on the forum with those actions and this answer. This is alakslam. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On September 03 2013 19:44 Oatsmaster wrote: I kinda like hassy's explanation cause its not like he was instantly accusing kita for being scum. It felt like he was genunienly confused. Does a scum hassy not do the same? I kinda get where you're coming from but if hassy is scum then kita is obviously town, and hassy would know that. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On September 03 2013 19:44 Oatsmaster wrote: I kinda like hassy's explanation cause its not like he was instantly accusing kita for being scum. It felt like he was genunienly confused. The thing is, how could he even accuse kita of being scum? The results of kita's action where shown us all. Hardly can you imagine he's scum for revealing all actions used on VE? I don't necessarily agree that was the best choice, but at least it confirmed us his alignment, and as things look now I would look into lynching Hassy as well. Top 3 lynches for today: Oatsmaster geript Hassybaby | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 03 2013 19:51 AxleGreaser wrote: Axle: "So yeah, unless Alak pulls his head out of the sand and realises there were other townies playing this game and that he needs to do whatever is his best... Then as town or scum PM recipient given his play so far he is going to get lynched one day soon. " Not really considering that having hissy fit and rearranging the item effected everyone else who was town. Marry up the yes's in these two. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19662521 (last 3 sentences of my post get 'yes' 'yes' and an explanation of sorts) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19662559 I am not saying it wouldn't lynch the crap out of every other player on the forum with those actions and this answer. This is alakslam. On September 03 2013 19:51 AxleGreaser wrote: Axle: "So yeah, unless Alak pulls his head out of the sand and realises there were other townies playing this game and that he needs to do whatever is his best... Then as town or scum PM recipient given his play so far he is going to get lynched one day soon. " Not really considering that having hissy fit and rearranging the item effected everyone else who was town. Marry up the yes's in these two. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19662521 (last 3 sentences of my post get 'yes' 'yes' and an explanation of sorts) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19662559 I am not saying it wouldn't lynch the crap out of every other player on the forum with those actions and this answer. This is alakslam. Again. What he did was destructive. Not selfish. Point me out to the excellent scumhunting he did today. Let me recap Alakaslam his actions: Day1. Talk nonsense and threaten town if his buddy BH dies, whos allignement he doesn't know. Night 1. Swaps around items. (This may or may not helped town in the end, but he didn't do it to help town) Day 2. Apologize & do nothing except give me a townread and vote for ShiaoPi who has a (questionable?) greencheck. I still don't understand this chronosphere thing he keeps talking about. It seems to be charging... | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On September 03 2013 20:06 Cephiro wrote: The thing is, how could he even accuse kita of being scum? The results of kita's action where shown us all. Hardly can you imagine he's scum for revealing all actions used on VE? I don't necessarily agree that was the best choice, but at least it confirmed us his alignment, and as things look now I would look into lynching Hassy as well. Top 3 lynches for today: Oatsmaster geript Hassybaby kita could be lying. Ok whatever. Give any reasons why Im scum Ceph PLEASE. I BEG YOU. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 03 2013 19:43 Clarity_nl wrote: Koshi how do you feel about this whole hassy/kita business? You seemed quick to agree with hassy's explanation of his role being messed with. I am not interested in lynching hassy atm. I liked his posts early on D1 iirc. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On September 03 2013 20:11 Oatsmaster wrote: kita could be lying. Ok whatever. Give any reasons why Im scum Ceph PLEASE. I BEG YOU. As mentioned earlier.. you do not commit, you don't contribute, you flip-flop. Most of all, your reactions against any pressure made on you point out your alignment incredibly clearly. The amount of OMGUS from you on me is just ridiculous, yet you haven't even bothered to try and convince others of killing me for as much you believe me to be scum. Don't worry, you'll get killed soon enough. | ||
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cakepie
985 Posts
On September 03 2013 19:01 AxleGreaser wrote: perhaps by giving geript that kind of control and Alak a randomiser button marked "Dont press this button" then we are getting the RNG game we or someone(Dandel loves RNG IIRC) deserves? maybe we are playing aperture and got what we each signed up for. lol thanks that helped me lighten up a bit. More seriously do you agree that double lynch is actually a tricky situation? At the very least, this is not the time to be toying around with a repeat attempt at your shenanigans (which you suggested at some point earlier D2) -- if it is hard enough to find two clear consensus wagons, we might really need all the votes we can get where they matter -- lynching people rather than toying with powers. It certainly wouldn't be funny if you ended up getting mislynched (though that's rather unlikely). The downside is we might not get another chance to try your plan if we lose you tonight. About Alakaslam, on D1 clearly showed signs of being item/power drunk, I just wish we'd paid more attention -- he doesn't help by being so unintelligible, but he did state his intentions and the trigger condition beforehand. Bloody stupid selfish attention-seeking plan or scummy act? He seems repentant, at least, with a coherent (if incredibly stupid) story, whereas geript still doesn't give a shit. If I had to choose between Alakaslam and geript, Imma lynch into geript first. --- On September 03 2013 20:09 Koshi wrote: I still don't understand this chronosphere thing he keeps talking about. It seems to be charging... On September 03 2013 15:05 Alakaslam wrote: came back not reading much not caring rather all giddy with "I must follow through on my promise" and making up C&C RA fake flavor & stuff because I always thought the chronosphere story was awesome if the actual building/power in game basically sucked. Basically, chronosphere is all bollocks from slam, if I understand correctly. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On September 03 2013 20:09 Koshi wrote: Again. What he did was destructive. Not selfish. Point me out to the excellent scumhunting he did today. Let me recap Alakaslam his actions: Day1. Talk nonsense and threaten town if his buddy BH dies, whos allignement he doesn't know. Night 1. Swaps around items. (This may or may not helped town in the end, but he didn't do it to help town) Day 2. Apologize & do nothing except give me a townread and vote for ShiaoPi who has a (questionable?) greencheck. I still don't understand this chronosphere thing he keeps talking about. It seems to be charging... He did jack shit. (on his best day he wont(I think cant) do a lot more), I am happy to lynch him tomorrow if we dont find another better. I prioritise geript today as today he claims to have negative vote power. Today we have a double lynch, [/b]plurality[b]... (plurality is a different kind of lynch I want to see if this kind kills him) if his role talks about a majority of people voting for him it may not work today... (that may even have been an unpleasant surprise) His role if scum must have an achillies heel, if it wasn't getting shot last night it better be the double lynch today IMO? I agree It(alaks shuffle) was destructive as a fact and as perceived from where you stand. it was also (if he is town) done by him as he didnt think about its effect on others. he either was actually pissed BH got lynched or chose to continue role playing that for his own amusement, without think of others. AKA selfish. Also why does it matter if he used the wrong word(selfish)? Does that not make it ring as truth and as made up stuff? PS the shuffle random shuffled all items IIRC. Did scum have any? are their plans ruined. There are fewer scum so I still think its net destructive. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
I still don't understand this chronosphere thing he keeps talking about. It seems to be charging... When I googled it Chronosphere is in Red Alert, I have been told it moves stuff around in that game. My best guess it was just Alak being Alak and adding flavor for fun. | ||
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AxleGreaser
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 03 2013 20:30 AxleGreaser wrote: When I googled it Chronosphere is in Red Alert, I have been told it moves stuff around in that game. My best guess it was just Alak being Alak and adding flavor for fun. ahhh. ok. Well I am torn about Alakaslam tbh, because I somewhere can believe he did this as town, but I am lynching him. The only reason I would swap off him is if he can't get lynched and I can decide in lynching somebody else. geript, Oats also sound pretty ok atm. I don't know about Onegu as well anymore, but he is so certain that Stutters is town, while I don't understand why those 2 are buddying. But it seems that BM members are not being targetted otherwise 1 of them should have died last night. Not paying any attention to the other people in the game. Trying to gather townreads, I don't have many. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Hiro is a fucking terrible lynch and the people who are on him should consolidate. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On September 03 2013 20:15 Cephiro wrote: As mentioned earlier.. you do not commit, you don't contribute, you flip-flop. Most of all, your reactions against any pressure made on you point out your alignment incredibly clearly. The amount of OMGUS from you on me is just ridiculous, yet you haven't even bothered to try and convince others of killing me for as much you believe me to be scum. Don't worry, you'll get killed soon enough. Flip flopping isnt scummy. I have contributed. Not committing? Calling a load of dudes confirmed scum or town isnt committing? Can you explain why I dont have a good reason to think you are scum? Can you also explain how shouting 'lynch oats' all the time is convincing people? I bet you cant. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
Even if I'm not lynched, scum will definitely target the shit out of me I'd say get WoS. From his posts, it seems he's caught a definite scum today, and he...does nothing about it. Not even a vote. He's talked about Hiro/Shiao during the night. OK he's not convinced over Shiao now, but not even a mention of Hiro since then, and not a vote on me On September 03 2013 10:37 WaveofShadow wrote: Personally, because I'm not dealing with Alakaslam. I simply refuse. I don't know about everyone else though. But yeah, eff it. What else is going on today? Lets get my 10k today! | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 03 2013 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Koshi, why am I scum? Are you scum? Your posts are completely different from your previous games. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On September 03 2013 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Flip flopping isnt scummy. I have contributed. Not committing? Calling a load of dudes confirmed scum or town isnt committing? Can you explain why I dont have a good reason to think you are scum? Can you also explain how shouting 'lynch oats' all the time is convincing people? I bet you cant. You're just plain horrible. You're not even trying are you? Flipflopping ain't scummy since when? Sure, if you have a good reason you can change your mind, but you constantly do without any. No, you have not contributed. Committing is not changing targets every few hours and saying "he's confirmed scum". Do you know what confirmed scum is? You should check up the word "confirmed" from a dictionary, might help out a bit. I have provided my reasons why you should die multiple times, I'm just reminding others that you really need to die. On the other hand, your question is hilarious. "Can you explain why I don't have a good reason to think you are scum?" ... LOL. Yeah, so you want me to make a case on myself so that you would have something to convince others with? You're just omgus-calling me scum but you're not doing shit about it. Because you don't care. You're scum and you don't care. | ||
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