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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
My car and halo. See first page my filter, and really? You never played halo? Go do that plz | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On September 03 2013 14:22 Clarity_nl wrote: I want a third lynch. Alakaslam, Hassy, geript. Axle have you reconsidered alakaslam yet? Notice how he still hasn't done anything ever since koshi found out he was the one who used the d6. I could go with 4.... The important bit will be to prioritise to two that will give us the most for tomorrow and flip red. I reconsider lots of things lots of the time. So yes. (as the default) Id like you to have look at this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19028339 it is post by alakaslam in newbie. it is a response to Onegu who was scum fake claiming, watcher who saw Alak visited by the (obv) town(nosy neigh). (onegu was a scum tracker who had tracked the towny) Alak sees this and claims tracker... (some one who visits but is not necessarily visted.) and concludes merrily they are now both confirmed town.... its a bit out there... Ok? it might just change your settings for just how likely Alak is to do stuff as town. (do note Alak playing scum... has always sacred me. because he then also has a plausibly large range of crap he can get away with but under the guidance of his team mates....) Was Alak shitty with his scum mates for lynching BH? So yeah, unless Alak pulls his head out of the sand and realises there were other townies playing this game and that he needs to do whatever is his best... Then as town or scum PM recipient given his play so far he is going to get lynched one day soon. FYI: Why am I cutting him slack and encouraging him to try (even though I don't know if he's town or scum...) because unless someone does. hammering him will certainly make him shut down. Also I actually make the time to try to reverse engineer his posts into thoughts and I have also read previous games of his. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On September 03 2013 15:19 AxleGreaser wrote: I could go with 4.... The important bit will be to prioritise to two that will give us the most for tomorrow and flip red. I reconsider lots of things lots of the time. So yes. (as the default) Id like you to have look at this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19028339 it is post by alakaslam in newbie. it is a response to Onegu who was scum fake claiming, watcher who saw Alak visited by the (obv) town(nosy neigh). (onegu was a scum tracker who had tracked the towny) Alak sees this and claims tracker... (some one who visits but is not necessarily visted.) and concludes merrily they are now both confirmed town.... its a bit out there... Ok? it might just change your settings for just how likely Alak is to do stuff as town. (do note Alak playing scum... has always sacred me. because he then also has a plausibly large range of crap he can get away with but under the guidance of his team mates....) Was Alak shitty with his scum mates for lynching BH? So yeah, unless Alak pulls his head out of the sand and realises there were other townies playing this game and that he needs to do whatever is his best... Then as town or scum PM recipient given his play so far he is going to get lynched one day soon. FYI: Why am I cutting him slack and encouraging him to try (even though I don't know if he's town or scum...) because unless someone does. hammering him will certainly make him shut down. Also I actually make the time to try to reverse engineer his posts into thoughts and I have also read previous games of his. Actually what just hit me was basically ignoring desert all today... I feel the need to apologize here too. I have been quite selfish... Yes, that is the motivation for much of what I do. I am not very good at scum hunting (town hunting I am ok at) but no reason to troll 95% of the time. Of course it has been an act and a big loon-fix, I am actually a very stoic person much of the time irl (I can be odd irl as well of course but not nearly as often as I have been here.) When I'm done here and there, I'll see anyone who wants to play Thug life :D and I promise not to give the game away, and then I will be ban requesting for the duration of fall crop season. The workload is such that as much as I will desire to, I really shouldn't in or cohost at all until spring. After that I will do what I plan to do now: Give my normal effort. Be as sane as possible. If it makes me dull it makes me dull. Oh well, it's worth it if it improve my play. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Koshi, if you didn't already know, should be confirmed town. His rage at my item switching too genuine, and his goals careful with said plans it appears. Cakepie is a strong player, I think he has a good memory and reads the whole thread- the advantage of this is awareness of context. Sure maybe not perfect but good. I hope to show tomorrow, work is picking up big time (11.5 hour day today) but I can post from work. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 03 2013 14:15 AxleGreaser wrote: @Risen So did you do anything with your interest? or did you Just turn up when the dust is pretty settled and say some stuff. that really doesn't let me see much about how your thinking. If you were scum and there was really a town player trolling that hard... that would be a very easy comment for scum to make. If you were scum and there was really a scum player who thought they were so 'caught scum' trolling that hard... that would be a very easy comment for scum to make. Can you think of anything to do that would give me confidence you are town? If geript is scum as you imply and the game is balanced, town is effectively at the first lynch they control.. so we could always try to lurker lynch you to see what happens. On August 10 2013 05:44 Acrofales wrote: Risen! Who do you want to kill. If you're a loyalist, you generally have good intuitions once you've settled down. If you're a Blackfyre you will just accuse your fellow conspirators. I want to know who you'd like to kill today! And please don't refer me to your earlier long discourse: I want an updated version! | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 03 2013 10:39 kitaman27 wrote: Is it possible for slam's item switcher to impact Hassy's item? I assume not? No, "The D6" acts after everything else. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
I am still wanting to see Hassys response if any to Kitamans claim. Hassy may of course if he is scum choose to never respond which is effectively claiming scum. That for me would simplify the days lynch choices. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 03 2013 14:40 Felkyr wrote: @Koshi Could you explain this? At first, I thought this was the item you wanted to give to Vayne (and that you made it for him). However, from your phrasing you seem to suggest it is good that it was changed from owner? Do you think scum made it? Below is the post that made me think you invented the item, btw. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On September 03 2013 14:49 Alakaslam wrote: You may find this oddly ironic fitting and wrong at the same time but if you think about it it's not ##Vote: the Musclebound + Show Spoiler + No hard feelings though btw Hi alakaslam. What is this? | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On September 03 2013 14:40 Felkyr wrote: @Onegu Would you like to explain this? I don't know anything, in as far as that would convince you. If there is more being said in the Black Mesa QT, you should tell us. Are you not the town representative there? People have asked for it several times... @All + Show Spoiler + On September 03 2013 10:06 VayneAuthority wrote: interesting, the fate is -3 at the moment so it seems hiropro is bulletproof for this next night. On September 03 2013 09:36 GreYMisT wrote: VisceraEyes' Tombstone reads: VisceraEyes, as Alphonse Elric, Drew a circle on HiroPro Night 1 + Show Spoiler [Role Pm] + Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2! You are Alphonse Elric, Brother to the Fullmetal Alchemist! Each night you may place a transmutation circle on a player. You may only have 1 circle drawn at any time, and the addition of a new one will eliminate your old one. This Circle will be activated at night after a full day of being on a player. The effect of your transmutation will depend on the fate counters. If the fate counter is negative, your target will be protected from 1 kp until the next day, and if the fate counter is [0, 4], they will be roleblocked until the next day. The first time the fate counter is 5 or greater, your transmutation will kill them immediately. After using the kill ability, the fate counter at 5 or more will roleblock instead. FURTHER INFORMATION REDACTED. You win when you are alive at the end of the game. ”Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is Alchemy’s first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world’s one and only truth.” In addition to drawing a circle, he was shot. If I read this correctly, the circle will STAY on Hiro. Hence, Hiro will stay protected (unless fate rises). HiroPro WILL die if the fate counter gets to 5. I'm still not sure whether I want to lynch geript. As is said, he could be town. But indeed, he plays very anti-town. It would help greatly if he would explain some more. If he is able to give us another double lynch at a later time (or a voterig), that might be very beneficial. However, as he doesn't seem to want to cooperate at all, I'm afraid he will be useless or worse (and maybe scum above that). If there is a consensus to lynch geript, I will place my vote as necessary. @geript Talk to us please. @All For the second vote, I think Slam is a good choice. I have always thought of him as scummy. Still, for the most part he is unreadable for me, and I have no metagame information to help me. Most of it was his vague/shitty talk. Now, he has done something clearly anti-town. Some people say that the fact that he posted about it makes him look town, but if I look at the earlier stuff he has posted, I don't see why he wouldn't post something like that as scum. I mean, it seems like he likes to draw attention. It was stupid both as town and as scum, but the action himself makes him scum. Again, I will place my vote there if consensus deems it necessary. Talking about talking shit. Now that Hiro seems to be contributing, I feel no direct need to lynch him today, although it is still a possibility to me. He talked shit earlier and didn't make sense to me, but I'm don't know about him. It's easy to start doing the right thing when you will die, I suppose. I would like to hear from Hassy what he has to say about the Kita claim. @Koshi Could you explain this? At first, I thought this was the item you wanted to give to Vayne (and that you made it for him). However, from your phrasing you seem to suggest it is good that it was changed from owner? Do you think scum made it? Below is the post that made me think you invented the item, btw. @Rayn I know you like to talk about your pokemon. So, you are supposed to fight with another pokemon guy, right? Why would you think he is town? To me, it seems much more logical/likely that your opponent is scum or at least antitown if you are town. Why would you let people fight otherwise? That being said, like you assumed yourself, S&B could be your opponent. And another boldface post (although not that evincive): He has denied it, but of course he will do that if the chances are likely your opponent is scum. But why would he write it then in the first place? To have something to claim later on, only afterwards realizing his mistake? OR, he thinks/knows that your opponent is Randombum, which is interesting.sss S&B Would you comment on that? Why would you boldface that sentence? Me and stutters set up we would use our night abilities so that he would end up in between me and you with you on top of him. He has a ability that affects people above him, he didnt say what it was and I didnt ask, I trust stutters is town. At the end of the night our area of the playerlist got flipped upsidedown so what stutters was going to do didnt happen to you. Only people in BM would have know something was going to happen to you. So when it got switched so nothing happened to you I believe there is scum in BM chat and saved his scummate from what was going to happen to you. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 03 2013 17:01 Onegu wrote: Me and stutters set up we would use our night abilities so that he would end up in between me and you with you on top of him. He has a ability that affects people above him, he didnt say what it was and I didnt ask, I trust stutters is town. At the end of the night our area of the playerlist got flipped upsidedown so what stutters was going to do didnt happen to you. Only people in BM would have know something was going to happen to you. So when it got switched so nothing happened to you I believe there is scum in BM chat and saved his scummate from what was going to happen to you. Or you are scum? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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cakepie
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Also Onegu can you give us the timestamp of the discussion between you and stutters in the BM QT? | ||
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cakepie
985 Posts
On September 03 2013 17:02 Hassybaby wrote: Oh not again....why do I kill people when I'm trying to protect them.... you want to tell us more about your d20 maybe? | ||
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cakepie
985 Posts
I don't have good meta on him, but my gut feel is this is not simply he mad at things not going well -- seasoned players don't normally react like this. So, I see hardly any good reason for deliberate play like this for any reason, except as a joker (trying to get lynched) or as part of a scum gambit. Since it's rather unlikely that 3P can pull off all this crap by himself, I'm leaning toward the latter. Also recall that the possibility has been raised before that he might not even be the one truly responsible for the voterigging and/or the double lynch. Also, thinking about the double plurality lynch, I'm not sure it is entirely a good thing for town, because it is easy for town to mislynch (up to twice!) since there is no requirement for a majority. In the absence of information from D1, this is a bit scary. If I put my scum thinking hat on, it's really not a bad deal, gambling on possibly sacrificing one team member to help conceal other scumbuddies who hold powers, plus completely mess with the thread and voting patterns for two day phases. By screwing with the D1 lynch, scum sought to limit useful information. By making D2 double plurality lynch, scum put us in a lousy position -- even if geript takes a bunch of heat and we agree to lynch him, that would require us to commit a certain number of votes on him, and from there the danger of mislynching with the second noose is still high if we don't consolidate correctly. Hence he isn't even trolling, he is pretty much taunting when he states things like the D1 votes don't matter, or challenges us to lynch him with the double lynch. Does this sound reasonable or am I just being absurd and paranoid? Notwithstanding geript, do people agree that we need to be especially careful with the double lynch? | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
When Grey wakes up, Ima check to see if I even sent the heal out, because if I didn't then there's a role reverser and my heal could potentially be a vig-shot, and I can try some WIFOM fun vs the scum team and see if I could kill one off, or just heal a townie | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 03 2013 17:14 cakepie wrote: If stutters actually used his ability, then it would have affected onegu instead. What bugs me about this is that we haven't heard from stutters all day. Also Onegu can you give us the timestamp of the discussion between you and stutters in the BM QT? This is not allowed. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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