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Hassybaby
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Oatsmaster
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Koshi
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Hassybaby
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On September 03 2013 17:45 Oatsmaster wrote: why wouldnt it register? Because I didnt exactly send my action in at night time in the traditional way. Even so, Grey's pretty on point with these matters, but I just want to tick that box On September 03 2013 17:45 Koshi wrote: Are you accusing somebody? Is this to me? Because I'm not accusing someone, and it's pretty much impossible to do so when faced with a role reverser, though I suspect it's a scum thing. | ||
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Koshi
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On September 03 2013 17:50 Hassybaby wrote: Because I didnt exactly send my action in at night time in the traditional way. Even so, Grey's pretty on point with these matters, but I just want to tick that box Is this to me? Because I'm not accusing someone, and it's pretty much impossible to do so when faced with a role reverser, though I suspect it's a scum thing. I wondered if you told somebody you would medic VE. | ||
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Hassybaby
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No one knew | ||
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Koshi
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raynpelikoneet
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On September 03 2013 14:40 Felkyr wrote: @Rayn I know you like to talk about your pokemon. So, you are supposed to fight with another pokemon guy, right? Why would you think he is town? To me, it seems much more logical/likely that your opponent is scum or at least antitown if you are town. Why would you let people fight otherwise? That being said, like you assumed yourself, S&B could be your opponent. And another boldface post (although not that evincive): He has denied it, but of course he will do that if the chances are likely your opponent is scum. But why would he write it then in the first place? To have something to claim later on, only afterwards realizing his mistake? OR, he thinks/knows that your opponent is Randombum, which is interesting. S&B Would you comment on that? Why would you boldface that sentence? Because it's possible that when there are roles like this (that are somehow tied up with each other) they are both town and it's encouraged for them to work together to give town better chances of winning (if you play it good). I am not assuming they are town, that's why i claimed in thread. When my pokemons die, bad things happen to town. If the other guy is town aswell, i would assume they have a same kind of condition in their role. That will fuck with the town. If they are town we can remove these bad things effectively, maybe make it into something good. Based on their actions (if they fight or not) i can tell you all if the other dude is town or not. SnB could breadcrumb his role as mafia in case he is under suspicion later on and needs to claim. Remember that he did that before i laid out my plan. In case i die, look closely into him (when you see my role you know what i mean). ----- In other news, i still want to kill geript. I am not sure if Alakaslam is scum because he is so unreadable. Does he do dumb stuff as mafia? Waiting more explanation from Hassy, at this point he seems lika good lynch too. | ||
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Clarity_nl
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On September 01 2013 19:37 Hassybaby wrote: OK, lets see if I can do something badass tonight /roll 1d20 + 9 On September 03 2013 04:26 Hassybaby wrote: It was supposed to save his life, but he was either double tapped, or the shot was unblockable, because I didnt roll high enough to block the unblockable. On September 03 2013 17:38 Hassybaby wrote: Let me double check that my heal was registered as an action. I definitely wasn't roleblocked, or at least, I didn't get a message saying I was. How is your first instinct to think he was hit twice or a shot on him was unblockable, and then later you consider that your protection didn't happen? Apparently there is a good reason to think that you might not have sent in an action. So why wasn't that the first thing that came to mind when VE flipped? You said you didn't send your night action the traditional way? What does this mean? On September 03 2013 17:50 Hassybaby wrote: Because I didnt exactly send my action in at night time in the traditional way. Even so, Grey's pretty on point with these matters, but I just want to tick that box You already said that your d20 roll in thread was fake for reactions right? So that's not it. Please explain how you sent in your night action. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On September 03 2013 17:20 cakepie wrote: I've an uneasy feeling that geript could be just a disposable front man for the scum team. His IDGAF does not look like "upset" IDGAF, or "big play failed, give up" IDGAF, it looks more of a "fuck you all" IDGAF. D1 he claimed to have planned his scum playstle ahead of time, but BH bled blue, and instead of offering any explanation or trying to be more helpful, geript basically decides to publicly, explicitly, overtly give town the finger. His contribution appears limited to mentions of a few people he thinks are suspicious for various meta or setup specuatiion reasons, but it's mostly a re-hash of this list and it's not like he actually pushes anyone for anything. Instead, he (claims to) give us a double lynch, and stops caring because his voting power is apparently -1 for the day. I don't have good meta on him, but my gut feel is this is not simply he mad at things not going well -- seasoned players don't normally react like this. So, I see hardly any good reason for deliberate play like this for any reason, except as a joker (trying to get lynched) or as part of a scum gambit. Since it's rather unlikely that 3P can pull off all this crap by himself, I'm leaning toward the latter. Also recall that the possibility has been raised before that he might not even be the one truly responsible for the voterigging and/or the double lynch. Also, thinking about the double plurality lynch, I'm not sure it is entirely a good thing for town, because it is easy for town to mislynch (up to twice!) since there is no requirement for a majority. In the absence of information from D1, this is a bit scary. If I put my scum thinking hat on, it's really not a bad deal, gambling on possibly sacrificing one team member to help conceal other scumbuddies who hold powers, plus completely mess with the thread and voting patterns for two day phases. By screwing with the D1 lynch, scum sought to limit useful information. By making D2 double plurality lynch, scum put us in a lousy position -- even if geript takes a bunch of heat and we agree to lynch him, that would require us to commit a certain number of votes on him, and from there the danger of mislynching with the second noose is still high if we don't consolidate correctly. Hence he isn't even trolling, he is pretty much taunting when he states things like the D1 votes don't matter, or challenges us to lynch him with the double lynch. Does this sound reasonable or am I just being absurd and paranoid? Notwithstanding geript, do people agree that we need to be especially careful with the double lynch? You are being as absurd and paranoid as me if that is any help to you. (aka well actually not quite, without telling me cos it would be rude, judge how absurd and paranoid I look from the outside.... divide it by a number that you think of and thats you.) K. Not all the powers may be his or they may be causally joined... (vote rig causes D lynch) Perhaps wed have had no dlynch if he got vigged? (and they scum didnt get what they wanted and tried for...) perhaps he had solution for vig (hes vet?) and we either wasted a shot or no one took it or could(we had none). perhaps by giving geript that kind of control and Alak a randomiser button marked "Dont press this button" then we are getting the RNG game we or someone(Dandel loves RNG IIRC) deserves? maybe we are playing aperture and got what we each signed up for. | ||
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AxleGreaser
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On September 03 2013 18:49 Clarity_nl wrote: Hassy something doesn't add up. When VE died noflip you said "damn, I guess he must have died to something that goes through protection", yet only now you're checking to make sure the action happened? How is your first instinct to think he was hit twice or a shot on him was unblockable, and then later you consider that your protection didn't happen? Apparently there is a good reason to think that you might not have sent in an action. So why wasn't that the first thing that came to mind when VE flipped? You said you didn't send your night action the traditional way? What does this mean? You already said that your d20 roll in thread was fake for reactions right? So that's not it. Please explain how you sent in your night action. ##unvote: HiroPro ##vote: HassyBaby Hassybaby: if you are town please do do the best you can do as soon as you can do it. Hassybaby: if you are scum bye bye.... | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Hassybaby
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raynpelikoneet
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On September 03 2013 19:24 Hassybaby wrote: I said it over Skype while we were playing DnD Clarity Are you masoned with clarity? | ||
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Hassybaby
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"oh wtf, was the shot on VE unblockable? or maybe he was double tapped...." "huh there was one action on VE hat night, maybe there was a role reverser on me..." "wait, I said to grey on skype while we were playing DnD that I wanted to medic VE. I should check with him to make sure that counted as an action, otherwise the entire conversation is pointless. he doesn't miss these things normally but it's better to be safe than sorry" | ||
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Hassybaby
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I said to Grey to medic VE while we were playing DnD, not to Clarity Already said that no one knew I was doing it rayn, look up | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Who do you want to lynch? | ||
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AxleGreaser
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If you read the thread between here and here. and try to establish two ideas. is there any possibility that if geript doesn't get lynched today he will play different tomorrow. OR might his voting power revert to what it was D1 and he can maybe derail a second lynch.... I am keen to lynch him again. alternatively Alakaslam to me appears to have reconsidered some stuff. (although I am a sucker some times) Earlier I posted link so you reevaluate how plausible Alak doing WTF is. Here is link to a later newbie game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19353082 although he doesn't follow up on it and at end game forgets about it... the post was right basically there is an actual chance Alak may play well enough to appear to be trying. Geript certainly could and certainly hasn't and seems intent to continue. | ||
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AxleGreaser
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On September 03 2013 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why is there a fuckton of votes on HiroPro? I don't think he's scum. In an absolute sense (hes not scum) or just compared to other current candidates? FYI: I left mine there to make sure he kept being motivated... I think it(him scum) less than I did. (odds on that being true are now lower) I could change my mind again tomorrow.. or later today if some how the other prime lynches fall over by new developments. | ||
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Koshi
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On September 03 2013 19:33 AxleGreaser wrote: Regarding the other Lynch.... If you read the thread between here and here. The problem is that he didn't play selfish. He played destructive. What about his actions was selfish? | ||
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