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On September 03 2013 10:33 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 10:32 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 03 2013 10:31 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 03 2013 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 03 2013 10:25 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 03 2013 10:21 kitaman27 wrote:On September 03 2013 10:15 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 03 2013 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:On September 03 2013 10:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
So is town just incredibly amazing at killing themselves this game or do we have two scum here caught in their night actions? I don't understand this. Either: A) Hassy lied and is guilty B) I'm lying about Hassy and I'm guilty How does either lead to town killing themselves? C) this game makes no fucking sense for all we know some role could have done something to make his protection not go through but he still thinks it did. In this case, neither of you are lying. You aren't thinking over everything So do you think we should lynch Hassy based on the information available and his filter? nah dude, I don't see scum trying to save a third party/town this early. I wouldn't want to lynch hassy. Wat. I'm assuming the theory behind Hassy scum is that he simply lied about trying to protect VE because he looked towny at the time (at least to me) because he figured there was no way anyone would find out that that's not what his dice roll did. that makes zero fucking sense. You realize that would still be an action right? And kita claims his role reveals ALL actions. Why didn't we see any dice rolling going on then over there? All actions ON VE. The dice may not have been what killed VE to begin with, they may have simply shot him, hence the fact that the modpost says VE WAS FUCKING SHOT. ok? and everyone is saying that the action was somehow tied to VE dying. so why didn't we see the dice roll action on VE?
I don't really care what everyone else says about the dice roll. It could have done anything to anyone else. Yes your scenario is somewhat plausible but to me it seems more likely that Hassy simply lied for towncred and didn't think he'd get caught.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On September 03 2013 10:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Although the question remains, why did kita's role not tell us who shot VE?
Only reveals actions, not names.
In the event that Hassy was truthful about protecting VE, I was hoping someone would claim visiting VE (the exact same watcher ploy used in GoT -_-)
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On September 03 2013 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't understand why everyone is so quick to believe we have to lynch one of them but barely any votes are on alakaslam. Something is wrong here.
What does this mean?
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On September 03 2013 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 10:33 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 03 2013 10:32 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 03 2013 10:31 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 03 2013 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 03 2013 10:25 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 03 2013 10:21 kitaman27 wrote:On September 03 2013 10:15 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 03 2013 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:On September 03 2013 10:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
So is town just incredibly amazing at killing themselves this game or do we have two scum here caught in their night actions? I don't understand this. Either: A) Hassy lied and is guilty B) I'm lying about Hassy and I'm guilty How does either lead to town killing themselves? C) this game makes no fucking sense for all we know some role could have done something to make his protection not go through but he still thinks it did. In this case, neither of you are lying. You aren't thinking over everything So do you think we should lynch Hassy based on the information available and his filter? nah dude, I don't see scum trying to save a third party/town this early. I wouldn't want to lynch hassy. Wat. I'm assuming the theory behind Hassy scum is that he simply lied about trying to protect VE because he looked towny at the time (at least to me) because he figured there was no way anyone would find out that that's not what his dice roll did. that makes zero fucking sense. You realize that would still be an action right? And kita claims his role reveals ALL actions. Why didn't we see any dice rolling going on then over there? All actions ON VE. The dice may not have been what killed VE to begin with, they may have simply shot him, hence the fact that the modpost says VE WAS FUCKING SHOT. ok? and everyone is saying that the action was somehow tied to VE dying. so why didn't we see the dice roll action on VE? I don't really care what everyone else says about the dice roll. It could have done anything to anyone else. Yes your scenario is somewhat plausible but to me it seems more likely that Hassy simply lied for towncred and didn't think he'd get caught.
which leads me to my entire fucking point
why is this discrepancy so incriminating but the alakaslam thing is getting swept under the rug?
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On September 03 2013 10:36 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 03 2013 10:33 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 03 2013 10:32 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 03 2013 10:31 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 03 2013 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 03 2013 10:25 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 03 2013 10:21 kitaman27 wrote:On September 03 2013 10:15 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 03 2013 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:
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I don't understand this.
Either:
A) Hassy lied and is guilty
B) I'm lying about Hassy and I'm guilty
How does either lead to town killing themselves? C) this game makes no fucking sense for all we know some role could have done something to make his protection not go through but he still thinks it did. In this case, neither of you are lying. You aren't thinking over everything So do you think we should lynch Hassy based on the information available and his filter? nah dude, I don't see scum trying to save a third party/town this early. I wouldn't want to lynch hassy. Wat. I'm assuming the theory behind Hassy scum is that he simply lied about trying to protect VE because he looked towny at the time (at least to me) because he figured there was no way anyone would find out that that's not what his dice roll did. that makes zero fucking sense. You realize that would still be an action right? And kita claims his role reveals ALL actions. Why didn't we see any dice rolling going on then over there? All actions ON VE. The dice may not have been what killed VE to begin with, they may have simply shot him, hence the fact that the modpost says VE WAS FUCKING SHOT. ok? and everyone is saying that the action was somehow tied to VE dying. so why didn't we see the dice roll action on VE? I don't really care what everyone else says about the dice roll. It could have done anything to anyone else. Yes your scenario is somewhat plausible but to me it seems more likely that Hassy simply lied for towncred and didn't think he'd get caught. which leads me to my entire fucking point why is this discrepancy so incriminating but the alakaslam thing is getting swept under the rug?
Personally, because I'm not dealing with Alakaslam. I simply refuse. I don't know about everyone else though.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On September 03 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 10:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 03 2013 10:28 Clarity_nl wrote:vayne, read the thread: On September 03 2013 09:50 kitaman27 wrote:On September 03 2013 09:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Well that actually sucks for him =\
Why does Hassy not look good? Who acted on VE? Hassy claimed to have tried to protect VE. My role reveals all actions on VE. Hassy's protection was not there. All the proof you need. how about you read the thread. I just said that it isn't open and shut like that. Do you know something I don't? It seems pretty open and shut. Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 10:15 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 03 2013 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:On September 03 2013 10:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
So is town just incredibly amazing at killing themselves this game or do we have two scum here caught in their night actions? I don't understand this. Either: A) Hassy lied and is guilty B) I'm lying about Hassy and I'm guilty How does either lead to town killing themselves? C) this game makes no fucking sense for all we know some role could have done something to make his protection not go through but he still thinks it did. In this case, neither of you are lying. You aren't thinking over everything This is just... grasping at straws. Kita can you clarify, does your role see actions that are attempted or actions that are actually done?
All that are done.
Something like a role redirector that happened to target Hassy to another player is a possibility (even though it's an unlikely one).
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On September 03 2013 10:36 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't understand why everyone is so quick to believe we have to lynch one of them but barely any votes are on alakaslam. Something is wrong here. What does this mean?
?? everyone is quick to believe that the night actions on this specific case is incriminating but nobody cares that alakaslam fucked the entire village with his item.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Is it possible for slam's item switcher to impact Hassy's item? I assume not?
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Anyways, how hassy deals with this will be a lot more telling than any role actions in this clusterfuck.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Do you have a town read on hassy based on his filter?
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No, his filter is terrible but if I went based off that, this would be a reverse mafia game.
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On September 03 2013 10:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
No, his filter is terrible but if I went based off that, this would be a reverse mafia game.
WHAT
On September 03 2013 10:25 strongandbig wrote:
Lol this is nice
Either hassy is lying or Kita is
##unvote
##vote: kita
WHAT
On September 03 2013 10:38 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 10:36 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't understand why everyone is so quick to believe we have to lynch one of them but barely any votes are on alakaslam. Something is wrong here. What does this mean? ?? everyone is quick to believe that the night actions on this specific case is incriminating but nobody cares that alakaslam fucked the entire village with his item.
Two people voted hassy so far. Neither of which moved from alakaslam.
I'm going to bed. Can people place their damn votes please? halfway through day 2 and there's like 20 people not voting.
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vayne, from what I can gather from alakaslam, the guy has been worshiping Blazinghand as a god for his entire mafia existence. It's entirely possible that he just threw a fit as town when his idol got killed.
Hassy probably needs to die even without kita's piece of evidence. Unless he does something drastically different with his play or something to explain the non-action comes up, one of the lynches needs to go on him.
Also, I want everyone to notice something very important about ObviousOne's play today. I am currently the leading vote getter and with the voting system very likely to be lynched today. During the night we got a post from ObviousOne like this:
On September 01 2013 16:14 ObviousOne wrote:[stuff] Hiro is scum. [stuff] Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:On September 01 2013 08:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why are Cephiro and Hiro so against axle's plan? probably because they're both scum. I got you bbygrl Tomorrow we are lynching Hiro.
Everything about it suggests that I'm his number 1 mafia read and going to be pursued today. Yet now, despite being the biggest target of the day, he hasn't voted for me or said anything about my recent play. There's been no mention of whether his opinion has changed or strengthened. Hell, he hasn't even mentioned my name. It's like his biggest mafia read just vanished into thin air. This strikes me as extremely suspicious. The other lynch we have for today needs to go on him.
##Unvote
##Vote ObviousOne
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On September 03 2013 11:01 Coagulation wrote:
##vote hassy
placeholder jic
Never change, Coag.
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Has there ever been a double replacement before?
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On September 03 2013 11:02 HiroPro wrote:vayne, from what I can gather from alakaslam, the guy has been worshiping Blazinghand as a god for his entire mafia existence. It's entirely possible that he just threw a fit as town when his idol got killed. Hassy probably needs to die even without kita's piece of evidence. Unless he does something drastically different with his play or something to explain the non-action comes up, one of the lynches needs to go on him. Also, I want everyone to notice something very important about ObviousOne's play today. I am currently the leading vote getter and with the voting system very likely to be lynched today. During the night we got a post from ObviousOne like this: Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 16:14 ObviousOne wrote:[stuff] Hiro is scum. [stuff] On September 01 2013 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:On September 01 2013 08:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why are Cephiro and Hiro so against axle's plan? probably because they're both scum. I got you bbygrl Tomorrow we are lynching Hiro. Everything about it suggests that I'm his number 1 mafia read and going to be pursued today. Yet now, despite being the biggest target of the day, he hasn't voted for me or said anything about my recent play. There's been no mention of whether his opinion has changed or strengthened. Hell, he hasn't even mentioned my name. It's like his biggest mafia read just vanished into thin air. This strikes me as extremely suspicious. The other lynch we have for today needs to go on him. ##Unvote
##Vote ObviousOne
Are you sure you're the only scum? So I can stop looking with you? Okay, cool.
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Look guys, today I can't help you guys reach a majority. So vote for whoever. DGAF activated x2.
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Day 1 Lynch
MrZentor (0): Clarity_nl, AxleGreaser
HiroPro (6): cakepie, debears, Felkyr, AxleGreaser, ShiaoPi, ObviousOne
cakepie (0): HiroPro
ShiaoPi (1): Alakaslam
Alakaslam (4): Koshi, Clarity_nl, Mr. Cheesecake, VayneAuthority
geript (1): raynpelikoneet
kitaman27 (1): strongandbig
Oatsmaster (2): MrZentor, Cephiro
Felkyr (1): Onegu
Hassybaby (3): kitaman27, strongandbig, Coagulation
ObviousOne (1): HiroPro
The lynch will happen in at Wednesday, Sep 04 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00). It is a double lynch and the top two vote getters will be lynched. You can only vote for one person, though. Let me know if I missed something or made a mistake. Remember that only votes in the voting thread count and voting is required.
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Ok I'm back.
First thing's first I still believe geript is scum. There's just this sense of not caring about the lynch. Then there's the fact that he basically wasted everybody's time with his un-lynchable claim (which was a lie) and subsequent discussion about it. He eliminated a lot of town information by using this ability so early.
As he said On September 01 2013 06:51 geript wrote:
Vote placement is completely inconsequential and doesn't matter in the slightest. People should wholly disregard a large majority of the votes today.
Vote placement is normally a good source of information for town since when somebody flips we know his alignment and who voted/pushed for him.
And it doesn't help that he killed a townie.
Basically, everything he did day 1 has hurt town. He wasted our time, denied us information, and killed a town player.
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