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getmoript
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yamato77
11589 Posts
I'm fully okay with lynching him now. When I have time, I will respond fully. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On April 26 2013 08:39 VisceraEyes wrote: The difference is that in that game he eventually saw reason where here he keeps reaching - but frankly it could have just been you getting lynched that opened his eyes in RTP. :/ I look forward to your conclusions. If you could walk me through your suspicion of BC that would be supreme. When you get back-like. Good deal. I will discuss you, BC, take another look at Palmar for posterity (I was just browsing through his filter and he's falling down in my towniness list, also I am not so sure how he was sure BM was the "towniest-looking motherfucker" or whatever so early in the game. Nobody fucking hammer nobody while I'm gone or I'm gonna be right pissed. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On April 26 2013 08:36 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah. You're basing the whole of your play on host-WIFOM so far - all you've contributed meaningfully was the idea that we should lynch into vets in spite of the fact that you think "even if they don't look town they can solve the game". Finding that to be cognitive dissonance and would like you to comment on who you think is scum rather than give wishy-washy statements about limiting the lynch today. Thanks, and good day. The only host-WIFOM I've used was regarding getmo being town. I haven't contributed much because I got replaced into a game and I've been too lazy to read up. As for the plan thing, all three previously named vets being town together AND keeping them alive triples the risk, therefore I found it unlikely that none of them are scum, thus it reduces the playerpool to look at significantly. You may be aware of the fact that I hate big games. This would be an easy way to reduce the amount of people to look at for the day. Also, I'd rather not have scumvets solve the game for me. They would solve it in a very unpleasant way. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On April 26 2013 08:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The only host-WIFOM I've used was regarding getmo being town. I haven't contributed much because I got replaced into a game and I've been too lazy to read up. As for the plan thing, all three previously named vets being town together AND keeping them alive triples the risk, therefore I found it unlikely that none of them are scum, thus it reduces the playerpool to look at significantly. You may be aware of the fact that I hate big games. This would be an easy way to reduce the amount of people to look at for the day. Also, I'd rather not have scumvets solve the game for me. They would solve it in a very unpleasant way. This explanation....buys you time. But I'd still like some conclusions. You said BC case was bad - does that make him scum? You said you want to lynch into vets, but give no indication which you want to lynch. You said "I've been too lazy to read up" but you're not too lazy to come in and limit the lynch without reading. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On April 26 2013 08:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Could someone tell me where i'm making shit up? I said VE has not done any real scumhunting. I don't see where his scumhunting is. Yes, he has asked some people some questions, but that doesn't qualify to me as scumhunting. I don't see where he is "trying to find out their motives" as he claims. There are no follow up's to his questions, unless everything ends up in the people he questions being a town-read, which is fishy in itself. I said he lied about Palmar not having a scumread on him when voting for him. If someone says this is not true they are scum or not reading the thread at all. At least Palmar has enough balls to call people scum or town. I don't know if you did but it's how you made me feel with your style. He's saying the same kinds of things I did in RTP so I empathize in that regard. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On April 26 2013 08:47 VisceraEyes wrote: This explanation....buys you time. But I'd still like some conclusions. You said BC case was bad - does that make him scum? You said you want to lynch into vets, but give no indication which you want to lynch. You said "I've been too lazy to read up" but you're not too lazy to come in and limit the lynch without reading. I'm inclined to think BC is scum, but hold reservations as I haven't fully read the game. From my current position, I'd be happy to lynch him. I'm also not limiting the lynch, I'm proposing the idea. You're not bound by law to adhere to it. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On April 26 2013 08:47 ObviousOne wrote: I don't know if you did but it's how you made me feel with your style. He's saying the same kinds of things I did in RTP so I empathize in that regard. I'm used to off-thread comm games, that's why i tend to interact with players who are online when i am and who i think are mafia. I understand this might make me look annoying, as i want to ask one question at time. This however does not mean i'm tunneling someone (i guess you can say at that time i am), i have a clear picture of the game as whole and i have thoughts on all the players (at least i try to). | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
His sentiments today: On April 25 2013 16:01 GiygaS wrote: ##Vote ShiaoPi On April 26 2013 01:31 GiygaS wrote: [Rayn list] I agree with most of this, except Yamato and Stutter are null reads, and kush is town. On April 26 2013 01:47 GiygaS wrote: Your point on Ace could be disturbingly true. Anti town play that caused suspicion may have made him play more pro town today, which explains his behavior. ##Vote Ace What we have here town is called a blender. It takes the general viewpoints of town and just mishmashes them together to appear more active and following the thread. Instead he is just following thread sentiment as it goes along. On April 26 2013 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote: Something else that really bothers me is that a couple of times Palmar has talked about players who should be modkilled or how HE modkills in his games (like that's pertinent to finding scum in the LEAST anyway) But when it comes to actual real modkillable offenses he's completely silent. Like tube's lack of posting for example. Why is Palmar ignoring tube, a player who has made literally one post in the game when Palmar has said the following? On April 26 2013 08:23 GiygaS wrote: The bolded may have just become a whole lot more meaningful. More than willing to throw shit on VE for a modkill flip. On April 25 2013 20:29 ShiaoPi wrote: Can we kill tube? He does fucking nothing and ninjavotes as well.... Fucking sad Not willing to throw shit on someone who he's voted for and thinks is scum for doing the exact same thing. TODAY WE LYNCH GIYGAS. GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES AND START LOADING UP VOTES BISHES | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On April 26 2013 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm used to off-thread comm games, that's why i tend to interact with players who are online when i am and who i think are mafia. I understand this might make me look annoying, as i want to ask one question at time. This however does not mean i'm tunneling someone (i guess you can say at that time i am), i have a clear picture of the game as whole and i have thoughts on all the players (at least i try to). Am I still null leaning scummy to you? If you have questions for me please feel free to ask them. Mostly I feel like we should spend some more time talking to better understand each other as neither of us is great at reading the other, it seems. @VE: Broad strokes of your (town) Noir game show you doing a lot of back and forth with other players, attempting to engage in conversations instead of just plain accusations to suss out information, and less single-minded-purpose than you are this game. (you felt more active there, compared to this game, and this is a large game, and you seem to have IRL stuff to attend to based on your posting times, so I expect there to be differences, I also realize that this is only one town game and I will have to check a couple more including large games to get a better feel, so this is a preliminary comparison I guess for you to tighten your sphincter in anticipation of the rest in case it's more of the same type of deal.) Here you seem to be more single-minded about things, proffering a lot of defense instead of going on the offense (I think I'll compare LX D1 to your D1 here for starters since I KNOW you were in that game and town). | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On April 26 2013 09:11 getmoript wrote: @OO Why are you not voting Giygas? D2 is young, sir. Consider your case noted and acknowledged. I'll vote when I'm ready for the day to end. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
leaning town. I don't really have anything to ask atm, you seem to be mostly on the same page i am in this game. geript: What are your points 2 and 3 about? GiygaS was throwing shit at Palmar, not VE. And what does that ShiaoPi quote have to do with anything? | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
On April 26 2013 09:14 ObviousOne wrote: D2 is young, sir. Consider your case noted and acknowledged. I'll vote when I'm ready for the day to end. Aren't we closing in on 48 hours? Why do we need to extend it? | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
On April 26 2013 09:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript: What are your points 2 and 3 about? GiygaS was throwing shit at Palmar, not VE. And what does that ShiaoPi quote have to do with anything? Point 1. He's just following whatever the current trend is as it goes on. Point 2. Calls out VE for the Tube quote after the red flip. He's more than willing to help push the VE lynch without actually adding a vote. Point 3. Unwilling to call out his 'actual' scumread Shiao for doing the EXACT SAME THING!!!! He's treating 2 different players who did something very similar exceptionally differently. He's called Shiao scum multiple times but feels the need to call out VE INSTEAD OF HIS SCUM READ for doing the exact same things. @Rayn. As town do you keep up on your scum read filters or do you ignore them entirely? Do you not find this scummy? | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On April 26 2013 09:19 getmoript wrote: Aren't we closing in on 48 hours? Why do we need to extend it? I'm not finished playing D2 out. Sorry. Why the rush? /leaving now | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On April 26 2013 09:25 getmoript wrote: Point 1. He's just following whatever the current trend is as it goes on. Point 2. Calls out VE for the Tube quote after the red flip. He's more than willing to help push the VE lynch without actually adding a vote. Point 3. Unwilling to call out his 'actual' scumread Shiao for doing the EXACT SAME THING!!!! He's treating 2 different players who did something very similar exceptionally differently. He's called Shiao scum multiple times but feels the need to call out VE INSTEAD OF HIS SCUM READ for doing the exact same things. @Rayn. As town do you keep up on your scum read filters or do you ignore them entirely? Do you not find this scummy? No, he said Tube flip makes Palmar scummy, not VE. On April 26 2013 08:29 GiygaS wrote: I think Palmar looks scummy for it. Before I honestly just considered it reaching, but now that tube has come up as scum, it is something that is notable in whether Palmar is scum or not. I'll be reevaluating my opinion on him after reading his filter again. That's why the third point is irrelevant. You posted one minute after it, how can you miss it? There are other things that i find scummy in GiygaS. His vote/reasons on Ace and his behaviour in D1, but i'm not sure if he is just a dumb townie or scum. | ||
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