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On April 26 2013 09:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 09:55 GiygaS wrote:
EBWOP (Add to the bolded text in my quote): Or could be 3rd party, and started playing pro-town instead of anti-town. I'm pretty sure you are just a townie who is on the wrong track. I can understand your thought process quite well, but if you think Ace is now playing in a town mindset, that is not a reason why he would be mafia. It's kinda stupid to assume so. What if Ace was just uninvested on D1?You should probably look into people you think are scummy now, or throughout the game. Of course if you think Ace has done some stuff on D1 that really points to him being scum then ignore my words, but if that's the case, please point those actions out.
WHY CAN YOU ASK THIS QUESTION OF OTHERS BUT NOT ASK THIS QUESTION ABOUT ME?!?!?!? WHAT IN THE HOLY FUCK ARE YOU DOING RAYN?!
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On April 26 2013 10:03 grush57 wrote:
we must kill the palmar
This is odd considering YOUR target of preference now has a case against him and someone pushing dat lynch. Why give up on YOUR read in favor of mine? Is there anything particularly strong in the case against Palmar? Anything particularly weak in the case against GiygaS?
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On April 26 2013 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 09:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 26 2013 09:55 GiygaS wrote:
EBWOP (Add to the bolded text in my quote): Or could be 3rd party, and started playing pro-town instead of anti-town. I'm pretty sure you are just a townie who is on the wrong track. I can understand your thought process quite well, but if you think Ace is now playing in a town mindset, that is not a reason why he would be mafia. It's kinda stupid to assume so. What if Ace was just uninvested on D1?You should probably look into people you think are scummy now, or throughout the game. Of course if you think Ace has done some stuff on D1 that really points to him being scum then ignore my words, but if that's the case, please point those actions out. WHY CAN YOU ASK THIS QUESTION OF OTHERS BUT NOT ASK THIS QUESTION ABOUT ME?!?!?!? WHAT IN THE HOLY FUCK ARE YOU DOING RAYN?!
Because you said you had motives behind your actions and i don't see them. I see more town-motives behind Ace's questions and actions but i don't like him either, and that's why he is null for me atm.
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And tbh VE, you look much better now than you did when i voted for you.
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/facepalm
I haven't even DONE anything more than when you were arguing that I hadn't done shit rayn. Do you see how that statement infuriates me?
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Actually:
##Unvote: VisceraEyes
##Vote: Clarity_nl
It's time to answer Sharrant's case.
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On April 26 2013 10:00 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 09:54 getmoript wrote:On April 26 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
What's your read of Palmar and why geript? Town. I see no reason to question the roleblock/jail. If he was roleblocked by town, then odds are he was the second NK. If he was roleblocked by scum, then he's almost certainly town. Why? I don't understand this at all. He hasn't done anything at all - that's not reason enough for you to question the roleblock? And the fact that BC claimed RB? Those are both excellent reasons to question the roleblock. So why not question the roleblock? Why is he town OUTSIDE the claim of RB? You don't find it odd that he thought that inactivity was "especially damning" yet he ignored tube the whole game long? You don't find his fail-tunnel of me suspicious at all? Like, it looks to me like you only think he's town because you agree with him that I'm scum, which if that's the case then you're doing something wrong friend...because A) Palmar has given no good reason for thinking I'm scum and B) I'm town.
Yes, the second NK could've been on a roleblocked/jailed BC. But that means that, unless scum doublestacked or withheld a NK, that Palmar then was roleblocked/jailed by scum (or they're idiots and NK'd their own jailed target). If Palmar is lying about a roleblock, then it comes out 1-2 nights later regardless. It just doesn't make any sense to me to fakeclaim a roleblock; I've seen it before but in this game but it just doesn't make sense N1.
Also, I really liked Rayn's list during N1. Palmar +1'd it. You even said early that Palmar wouldn't have likely made a post regarding Vivax as town. I liked yamato's heuristic that people that share reads with you are more likely to be town. This feels like the PYP palmar to me.
As I recall, he was arguing that inactive was "especially damning" for you. I'll look at his filter for you, but I don't remember a flat out "inactivity = scum" statement from him.
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On April 26 2013 10:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
/facepalm
I haven't even DONE anything more than when you were arguing that I hadn't done shit rayn. Do you see how that statement infuriates me?
Yes you have, you have asked questions that make sense to me, D1-N1 you didn't do so.
Could you get behind Clarity lynch over ShiaoPi or Palmar?
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Not Palmar. Definitely Shiao - he got a pass with the modkill being one of the only people to even MENTION tube the whole game.
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Well what do you think then BM calling Tube town for "wanting to get rid of inactives like Drazak" then?
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EBWOP:
Well what do you think about BM calling Tube town for "wanting to get rid of inactives like Drazak" then?
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On April 26 2013 10:04 VisceraEyes wrote:This is odd considering YOUR target of preference now has a case against him and someone pushing dat lynch. Why give up on YOUR read in favor of mine? Is there anything particularly strong in the case against Palmar? Anything particularly weak in the case against GiygaS?
It was a batman joke, I think he is pretty scummy though.
The giygas case kind of failed, however it had some points and I wish we could get some traction on his lynch he is so scummy!
He also does the scum trait of constantly saying, I have to do something I'll answer later. In my case that is usually afk and let other scumplayers take over or wait for advice in the qt.
Not to mention the fact of fake contributing.
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grush can you link me to a scum game of yours please?
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On April 26 2013 10:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well what do you think then BM calling Tube town for "wanting to get rid of inactives like Drazak" then?
BM is ever a mystery to me. I'll have to look into his filter to answer this sufficiently. Being wrong doesn't mean that he's scum...and Palmar wasn't "wrong" about tube, he said "I find inactivity exceptionally scummy in this setup" and proceeded to ignore an inactive. That IS scummy.
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On April 26 2013 10:30 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 10:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well what do you think then BM calling Tube town for "wanting to get rid of inactives like Drazak" then? BM is ever a mystery to me. I'll have to look into his filter to answer this sufficiently. Being wrong doesn't mean that he's scum...and Palmar wasn't "wrong" about tube, he said "I find inactivity exceptionally scummy in this setup" and proceeded to ignore an inactive that ended up flipping scum. That IS scummy.
Fixed.
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On April 26 2013 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
grush can you link me to a scum game of yours please?
I really hate this. But there are none on TL. I've checked.
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On April 26 2013 10:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
grush can you link me to a scum game of yours please? I really hate this. But there are none on TL. I've checked.
Wouldn't that make the bolded a scumslip then? :/
On April 26 2013 10:21 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 10:04 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 26 2013 10:03 grush57 wrote:
we must kill the palmar This is odd considering YOUR target of preference now has a case against him and someone pushing dat lynch. Why give up on YOUR read in favor of mine? Is there anything particularly strong in the case against Palmar? Anything particularly weak in the case against GiygaS? It was a batman joke, I think he is pretty scummy though. The giygas case kind of failed, however it had some points and I wish we could get some traction on his lynch he is so scummy! He also does the scum trait of constantly saying, I have to do something I'll answer later. In my case that is usually afk and let other scumplayers take over or wait for advice in the qt.Not to mention the fact of fake contributing.
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A good point. :D
grush go ahead and answer VE.
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I'm fine with crowdsourcing:
TOWN HAS GRUSH BEEN SCUM EVER?
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