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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
April 26 2013 03:06 GMT
#1941
On April 26 2013 11:49 Ace wrote:
I do not push for an Oats/yamato hammer there. That is blatant lying.


On April 23 2013 06:37 Ace wrote:
To all you people lurking the thread lets get some consensus going. Right now I've got my vote on yamato but Vivax's case on Oats looks like an even better lynch. These are our top two suspects at the moment and imo, our best 2. do not stall these fucking wagons unless you've got a really good case of your own. Else wise the discussion should be focused on these two for now. Arguments for/against either of them will be greatly appreciated.


On April 23 2013 10:01 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 09:18 Vivax wrote:
Vivax → Case
Ace → prefers Oats, initially pushed yamato
CC → announces to look through yamato and Oats
VE → Would get behind Oats lynch
Kush → prefers yamato
Giyga → Ask Oats question about earlier vote against him
OO → Prefers yamato
Rayn → Prefers oats
Kush → Changes mind to lynching Oats
Palmar → Could do Oats. Also, VE is scum.
Giyga → Announces delay in looking through them
WoS → Says VE is scum, mentions something scummy about Oats. Worried about Oats posting something about yamato
Yamato → Said Oats could be scum earlier, VE IS SCUM but pops in and says BC and Ace could both be mafia. Bleh.
Getmoript → votes yamato
BM → Votes yamato
TRN → Votes yamato for martyring
Giyga → Prefers Oats
WoS → Claims to prefer Oats.
Kush → Actual change of vote to Oats


Ones in bold need to follow through and vote for Oats.

Stop lying.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 26 2013 03:06 GMT
#1942
Ve, you said you were reconsidering clarity. What are your thoughts now?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 03:08 GMT
#1943
Apparently i can't sleep. :E

Ace: I think you are being kinda wishy-washy regarding me. I don't like you saying i'm "temporarily cleared because of activity". If you think i'm town say so, if you think i'm scum, say so, if think i'm null, say so, but don't "clear" me for now because of activity. as you have said, activity has nothing to do with someone being scum/town.

I don't like ShiaoPi lynch as much as Clarity as why i have said earlier (ignore the VE voting for him part), mainly because of my analysis of the NK's at the start of D2. I want to hear more from yamato/BC regarding BC's case, i think yamato's answer was weak, he just said "no U scum, i'll tell more later". I could write something about WoS, but not tonight. I think he has a fair chance of flipping mafia, but Clarity is more likely imo.

I didn't like how Mr.CheeseCake accepted geript's case on GiygaS, as the case was full of nothing. I want him to tell why he did so.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 03:10 GMT
#1944
On April 26 2013 12:06 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 11:49 Ace wrote:
I do not push for an Oats/yamato hammer there. That is blatant lying.


Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 06:37 Ace wrote:
To all you people lurking the thread lets get some consensus going. Right now I've got my vote on yamato but Vivax's case on Oats looks like an even better lynch. These are our top two suspects at the moment and imo, our best 2. do not stall these fucking wagons unless you've got a really good case of your own. Else wise the discussion should be focused on these two for now. Arguments for/against either of them will be greatly appreciated.


Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:01 Ace wrote:
On April 23 2013 09:18 Vivax wrote:
Vivax → Case
Ace → prefers Oats, initially pushed yamato
CC → announces to look through yamato and Oats
VE → Would get behind Oats lynch
Kush → prefers yamato
Giyga → Ask Oats question about earlier vote against him
OO → Prefers yamato
Rayn → Prefers oats
Kush → Changes mind to lynching Oats
Palmar → Could do Oats. Also, VE is scum.
Giyga → Announces delay in looking through them
WoS → Says VE is scum, mentions something scummy about Oats. Worried about Oats posting something about yamato
Yamato → Said Oats could be scum earlier, VE IS SCUM but pops in and says BC and Ace could both be mafia. Bleh.
Getmoript → votes yamato
BM → Votes yamato
TRN → Votes yamato for martyring
Giyga → Prefers Oats
WoS → Claims to prefer Oats.
Kush → Actual change of vote to Oats


Ones in bold need to follow through and vote for Oats.

Stop lying.

GiygaS telling to consolidate onto main targets or to make a good case on someone else is another thing than to tell "you need to hammer one of those guys".
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 26 2013 03:10 GMT
#1945
On April 26 2013 12:06 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 11:49 Ace wrote:
I do not push for an Oats/yamato hammer there. That is blatant lying.


Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 06:37 Ace wrote:
To all you people lurking the thread lets get some consensus going. Right now I've got my vote on yamato but Vivax's case on Oats looks like an even better lynch. These are our top two suspects at the moment and imo, our best 2. do not stall these fucking wagons unless you've got a really good case of your own. Else wise the discussion should be focused on these two for now. Arguments for/against either of them will be greatly appreciated.


Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:01 Ace wrote:
On April 23 2013 09:18 Vivax wrote:
Vivax → Case
Ace → prefers Oats, initially pushed yamato
CC → announces to look through yamato and Oats
VE → Would get behind Oats lynch
Kush → prefers yamato
Giyga → Ask Oats question about earlier vote against him
OO → Prefers yamato
Rayn → Prefers oats
Kush → Changes mind to lynching Oats
Palmar → Could do Oats. Also, VE is scum.
Giyga → Announces delay in looking through them
WoS → Says VE is scum, mentions something scummy about Oats. Worried about Oats posting something about yamato
Yamato → Said Oats could be scum earlier, VE IS SCUM but pops in and says BC and Ace could both be mafia. Bleh.
Getmoript → votes yamato
BM → Votes yamato
TRN → Votes yamato for martyring
Giyga → Prefers Oats
WoS → Claims to prefer Oats.
Kush → Actual change of vote to Oats


Ones in bold need to follow through and vote for Oats.

Stop lying.


What lie? Vivax listed people that said they would vote/prefer Oats. How is that advocating a quick hammer?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 26 2013 03:11 GMT
#1946
On April 26 2013 11:45 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 10:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 26 2013 10:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well what do you think then BM calling Tube town for "wanting to get rid of inactives like Drazak" then?

BM is ever a mystery to me. I'll have to look into his filter to answer this sufficiently. Being wrong doesn't mean that he's scum...and Palmar wasn't "wrong" about tube, he said "I find inactivity exceptionally scummy in this setup" and proceeded to ignore an inactive. That IS scummy.

im not sure tube is town 100%
it was a specific question about him... i wouldnt EVER bring up tube... hes mainly null from me... havent seen much out of him

Scum claim right here guys.

Scum BM doesn't read the thread. Town BM does.

GG no re
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 26 2013 03:12 GMT
#1947
On April 26 2013 12:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Apparently i can't sleep. :E

Ace: I think you are being kinda wishy-washy regarding me. I don't like you saying i'm "temporarily cleared because of activity". If you think i'm town say so, if you think i'm scum, say so, if think i'm null, say so, but don't "clear" me for now because of activity. as you have said, activity has nothing to do with someone being scum/town.

I don't like ShiaoPi lynch as much as Clarity as why i have said earlier (ignore the VE voting for him part), mainly because of my analysis of the NK's at the start of D2. I want to hear more from yamato/BC regarding BC's case, i think yamato's answer was weak, he just said "no U scum, i'll tell more later". I could write something about WoS, but not tonight. I think he has a fair chance of flipping mafia, but Clarity is more likely imo.

I didn't like how Mr.CheeseCake accepted geript's case on GiygaS, as the case was full of nothing. I want him to tell why he did so.


I didn't read Geript's case. I wanted to see GiygaS's reasoning for this:

On April 26 2013 02:55 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 26 2013 01:47 GiygaS wrote:
On April 26 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: lynching into Ace/BC/Palmar

Ehhhhhhhhhhh....I don't know if there's a case on BC somewhere that I'm missing, but is the fact that he's inactive right now a part of the case? And Ace is looking more town in this game than I've ever seen...but frankly that is a little disconcerting. :/

Ugh. I don't like the idea. I mean I'd lynch Palmar sure...but BC/Ace? Today? Seems silly. Scum will want them dead if they're town. In my opinion the fog should clear a little bit by tomorrow. I think tomorrow is a better time to make a lynch like that.

Your point on Ace could be disturbingly true. Anti town play that caused suspicion may have made him play more pro town today, which explains his behavior.

##Vote Ace

You are voting for Ace because he looks town? And you just said at the last page BC is red and Ace is null. Can you explain the logic?

Basically, I would say Ace is scum based purely off his day 1 play in my eyes, but his day 2 sort of redeemed him in my eyes. However, it seems to me that Ace could just be looking pro town purposefully because accusations started going on him. That's my logic.


Logic, of which, I still don't understand. He said he agreed with most all my reads but chose to vote ace which was weird.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 26 2013 03:12 GMT
#1948
Ace, why did you leave clarity out of that? You wanted to lynch him with me earlier, remember?

Do you think shiaopi was really mafia and just sort of super soft bussing tube despite tube being under no real pressure?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 26 2013 03:14 GMT
#1949
On April 26 2013 12:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Apparently i can't sleep. :E

Ace: I think you are being kinda wishy-washy regarding me. I don't like you saying i'm "temporarily cleared because of activity". If you think i'm town say so, if you think i'm scum, say so, if think i'm null, say so, but don't "clear" me for now because of activity. as you have said, activity has nothing to do with someone being scum/town.

I don't like ShiaoPi lynch as much as Clarity as why i have said earlier (ignore the VE voting for him part), mainly because of my analysis of the NK's at the start of D2. I want to hear more from yamato/BC regarding BC's case, i think yamato's answer was weak, he just said "no U scum, i'll tell more later". I could write something about WoS, but not tonight. I think he has a fair chance of flipping mafia, but Clarity is more likely imo.

I didn't like how Mr.CheeseCake accepted geript's case on GiygaS, as the case was full of nothing. I want him to tell why he did so.


I think you're Town but I always think in terms of leaning/Protown and Confirmed Town. So when I say temporarily cleared it doesn't mean you are Scum - just me really saying you aren't confirmed. I'll try to be more clear from now on.

I'm liking ShiaoPi more than Clarity because of the Oats wagon. But Vivax accused them both so it's not a big deal for either wagon especially when both are just chilling right now. Yamato still missing is of course a big deal.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 03:17 GMT
#1950
On April 26 2013 12:14 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 12:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Apparently i can't sleep. :E

Ace: I think you are being kinda wishy-washy regarding me. I don't like you saying i'm "temporarily cleared because of activity". If you think i'm town say so, if you think i'm scum, say so, if think i'm null, say so, but don't "clear" me for now because of activity. as you have said, activity has nothing to do with someone being scum/town.

I don't like ShiaoPi lynch as much as Clarity as why i have said earlier (ignore the VE voting for him part), mainly because of my analysis of the NK's at the start of D2. I want to hear more from yamato/BC regarding BC's case, i think yamato's answer was weak, he just said "no U scum, i'll tell more later". I could write something about WoS, but not tonight. I think he has a fair chance of flipping mafia, but Clarity is more likely imo.

I didn't like how Mr.CheeseCake accepted geript's case on GiygaS, as the case was full of nothing. I want him to tell why he did so.


I think you're Town but I always think in terms of leaning/Protown and Confirmed Town. So when I say temporarily cleared it doesn't mean you are Scum - just me really saying you aren't confirmed. I'll try to be more clear from now on.

I'm liking ShiaoPi more than Clarity because of the Oats wagon. But Vivax accused them both so it's not a big deal for either wagon especially when both are just chilling right now. Yamato still missing is of course a big deal.

Why is this as we can't know if yamato is mafia or not?
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 26 2013 03:18 GMT
#1951
On April 26 2013 12:12 Sharrant wrote:
Ace, why did you leave clarity out of that? You wanted to lynch him with me earlier, remember?

Do you think shiaopi was really mafia and just sort of super soft bussing tube despite tube being under no real pressure?


I included clarity too, I just focused more on the Vivax reads that also hit the Oats wagon. He isn't off the hook. I didn't think ShiaoPi was bussing tube. Shiao has no thread presence and is a popular suspect - if he's bussing it would literally get him no where. What post did you see him make that made you think it was possible?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 26 2013 03:18 GMT
#1952
BM Palmar ShiaoPi GiygaS

90% of the game of Mafia is half skill. The other half is reading.

BOOM!
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 26 2013 03:20 GMT
#1953
On April 26 2013 12:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 12:14 Ace wrote:
On April 26 2013 12:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Apparently i can't sleep. :E

Ace: I think you are being kinda wishy-washy regarding me. I don't like you saying i'm "temporarily cleared because of activity". If you think i'm town say so, if you think i'm scum, say so, if think i'm null, say so, but don't "clear" me for now because of activity. as you have said, activity has nothing to do with someone being scum/town.

I don't like ShiaoPi lynch as much as Clarity as why i have said earlier (ignore the VE voting for him part), mainly because of my analysis of the NK's at the start of D2. I want to hear more from yamato/BC regarding BC's case, i think yamato's answer was weak, he just said "no U scum, i'll tell more later". I could write something about WoS, but not tonight. I think he has a fair chance of flipping mafia, but Clarity is more likely imo.

I didn't like how Mr.CheeseCake accepted geript's case on GiygaS, as the case was full of nothing. I want him to tell why he did so.


I think you're Town but I always think in terms of leaning/Protown and Confirmed Town. So when I say temporarily cleared it doesn't mean you are Scum - just me really saying you aren't confirmed. I'll try to be more clear from now on.

I'm liking ShiaoPi more than Clarity because of the Oats wagon. But Vivax accused them both so it's not a big deal for either wagon especially when both are just chilling right now. Yamato still missing is of course a big deal.

Why is this as we can't know if yamato is mafia or not?


I don't understand. how does yamato flipping correlate with Shiaopi over Clarity because of the Oats wagon?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 03:22 GMT
#1954
On April 26 2013 12:18 ObviousOne wrote:
BM Palmar ShiaoPi GiygaS

90% of the game of Mafia is half skill. The other half is reading.

BOOM!

I kinda think all of those guys are town. :¤
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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 26 2013 03:22 GMT
#1955
My house of cards is toppled =[
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 03:22 GMT
#1956
On April 26 2013 12:20 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 12:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 26 2013 12:14 Ace wrote:
On April 26 2013 12:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Apparently i can't sleep. :E

Ace: I think you are being kinda wishy-washy regarding me. I don't like you saying i'm "temporarily cleared because of activity". If you think i'm town say so, if you think i'm scum, say so, if think i'm null, say so, but don't "clear" me for now because of activity. as you have said, activity has nothing to do with someone being scum/town.

I don't like ShiaoPi lynch as much as Clarity as why i have said earlier (ignore the VE voting for him part), mainly because of my analysis of the NK's at the start of D2. I want to hear more from yamato/BC regarding BC's case, i think yamato's answer was weak, he just said "no U scum, i'll tell more later". I could write something about WoS, but not tonight. I think he has a fair chance of flipping mafia, but Clarity is more likely imo.

I didn't like how Mr.CheeseCake accepted geript's case on GiygaS, as the case was full of nothing. I want him to tell why he did so.


I think you're Town but I always think in terms of leaning/Protown and Confirmed Town. So when I say temporarily cleared it doesn't mean you are Scum - just me really saying you aren't confirmed. I'll try to be more clear from now on.

I'm liking ShiaoPi more than Clarity because of the Oats wagon. But Vivax accused them both so it's not a big deal for either wagon especially when both are just chilling right now. Yamato still missing is of course a big deal.

Why is this as we can't know if yamato is mafia or not?


I don't understand. how does yamato flipping correlate with Shiaopi over Clarity because of the Oats wagon?

Oh yeah. You mean you assume there is at least one scum in Oats wagon right? That's fair.
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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 26 2013 03:25 GMT
#1957
BM not reading the thread as mafia is 100% true. I was just mafia with him in boardwalk. We talked on Skype for 4 hours so I can't show you logs.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 26 2013 03:26 GMT
#1958
yes. Maybe you missed the post I made earlier but basically it was Oats (Town) was accused by Vivax (Town) and gets lynched by 13 players. I doubt all 13 are Town because that would be incredible luck and insight on Scum's behalf to all miss that vote. Hence we should look at who is on the wagon. Combine it with Vivax, the only N1 death meaning someone really wanted him dead because of his accusations, and he was right about something. Combine those seperate threads of thought/looking for scum and thats how I got to the points I'm at.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 26 2013 03:29 GMT
#1959
Does anyone else think OO has such bad reads that, even if he was town, he would make a good policy lynch? I'd be happy lynching him regardless of his alignment at this point.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 26 2013 03:29 GMT
#1960
On April 26 2013 12:25 ObviousOne wrote:
BM not reading the thread as mafia is 100% true. I was just mafia with him in boardwalk. We talked on Skype for 4 hours so I can't show you logs.

this is a blatant lie.
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