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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 23:26 GMT
#1841
On April 26 2013 08:23 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Something else that really bothers me is that a couple of times Palmar has talked about players who should be modkilled or how HE modkills in his games (like that's pertinent to finding scum in the LEAST anyway)

On April 22 2013 06:06 Palmar wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:33 getmoript wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Marvellosity (and only marvellosity) has been removed from the game for repeated refusal to follow the rules for out of game communication and being a dick to me.

Please keep all discussions of modkills until the post-game.

Getmoript has not been modkilled.


Ok. I'll tell you how it is given BH is being an enormous megalomaniac.

geript and I had a QT made for ourselves, which we have been using quite happily. BH decided that we should use the QT that he made, because he's a power-mad weirdo.

I said we're fine with the QT that geript and I made thank you, and BH is now swinging his dick around, saying we're forced to use a QT that he made, despite the rules saying nothing about this, and despite the rules only having this restriction, which we followed:

On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Hydras:
If one of the players would like to hydra with someone else, that is acceptable. Please inform me. Your hydra can have any name, but the signature should be something like "Hydra of Blazinghand and Ange777 for TL Mafia LXI" so that people know what's up.


There were no such rules for out-of-game communication other than that that BlazingHand just edited in to the rules so that he'd be justified being a douchebag.

Anyway, glhf everyone!!

~marv



tbh this should result in a modkill.

It's super unfair to the mafia that he's allowed to reveal information about the nature of the hydra and how it interacts with the host that results in everyone just assuming they're town.

It's also super unfair to town if they're somehow mafia despite all this.

On April 25 2013 05:44 Palmar wrote:
On April 25 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:
Green font it and see if the mods make that info public.


well yeah. In my games you get modkilled for directly asking the host a question in the thread, although I guess I also run my games a bit differently. In fact, what I did, imply that I was going to ask the host a question would probably get me modkilled in my own game anyway.

So I wish I had just kept my mouth shut about it until BH clarified.

thanks BH, for explaining.


But when it comes to actual real modkillable offenses he's completely silent. Like tube's lack of posting for example. Why is Palmar ignoring tube, a player who has made literally one post in the game when Palmar has said the following?

On April 23 2013 00:48 Palmar wrote:
also being inactive in this game is unusally scummy because BH sent a pm to everyone in the game 24 hours before the game started which required a response to be in the game.

So everyone here is fully aware when the game started and reminded of it very close to the start of the game. So being afk or saying nothing is almost inexcusable.



The bolded may have just become a whole lot more meaningful.

I think it's kinda WIFOMy. If i was using that as evidence i could say why didn't VE bring up DrH/Stutters & Drazak/Artanis? Does it make him scum?
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 25 2013 23:26 GMT
#1842
Okay, meaningful in what way? Do you agree that Palmar looks scummy for it? Or did you mean that I look scummy for posting it? DETAILS GUY!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 23:27 GMT
#1843
Yeah i would like to hear details aswell.
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 25 2013 23:27 GMT
#1844
On April 26 2013 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 08:23 GiygaS wrote:
On April 26 2013 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Something else that really bothers me is that a couple of times Palmar has talked about players who should be modkilled or how HE modkills in his games (like that's pertinent to finding scum in the LEAST anyway)

On April 22 2013 06:06 Palmar wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:33 getmoript wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Marvellosity (and only marvellosity) has been removed from the game for repeated refusal to follow the rules for out of game communication and being a dick to me.

Please keep all discussions of modkills until the post-game.

Getmoript has not been modkilled.


Ok. I'll tell you how it is given BH is being an enormous megalomaniac.

geript and I had a QT made for ourselves, which we have been using quite happily. BH decided that we should use the QT that he made, because he's a power-mad weirdo.

I said we're fine with the QT that geript and I made thank you, and BH is now swinging his dick around, saying we're forced to use a QT that he made, despite the rules saying nothing about this, and despite the rules only having this restriction, which we followed:

On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Hydras:
If one of the players would like to hydra with someone else, that is acceptable. Please inform me. Your hydra can have any name, but the signature should be something like "Hydra of Blazinghand and Ange777 for TL Mafia LXI" so that people know what's up.


There were no such rules for out-of-game communication other than that that BlazingHand just edited in to the rules so that he'd be justified being a douchebag.

Anyway, glhf everyone!!

~marv



tbh this should result in a modkill.

It's super unfair to the mafia that he's allowed to reveal information about the nature of the hydra and how it interacts with the host that results in everyone just assuming they're town.

It's also super unfair to town if they're somehow mafia despite all this.

On April 25 2013 05:44 Palmar wrote:
On April 25 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:
Green font it and see if the mods make that info public.


well yeah. In my games you get modkilled for directly asking the host a question in the thread, although I guess I also run my games a bit differently. In fact, what I did, imply that I was going to ask the host a question would probably get me modkilled in my own game anyway.

So I wish I had just kept my mouth shut about it until BH clarified.

thanks BH, for explaining.


But when it comes to actual real modkillable offenses he's completely silent. Like tube's lack of posting for example. Why is Palmar ignoring tube, a player who has made literally one post in the game when Palmar has said the following?

On April 23 2013 00:48 Palmar wrote:
also being inactive in this game is unusally scummy because BH sent a pm to everyone in the game 24 hours before the game started which required a response to be in the game.

So everyone here is fully aware when the game started and reminded of it very close to the start of the game. So being afk or saying nothing is almost inexcusable.



The bolded may have just become a whole lot more meaningful.

I think it's kinda WIFOMy. If i was using that as evidence i could say why didn't VE bring up DrH/Stutters & Drazak/Artanis? Does it make him scum?

Because neither of those players you just mentioned just flipped scum and tube did?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 25 2013 23:28 GMT
#1845
Dear Stutters,

Welcome to the game. Thank you for catching up. Your commentary regarding VE is highly valued.

Please would you discuss another scum read or two at your earliest convenience? I think we would all find that super swell and feel more certain of your alignment if you could get those thoughts shared with everyone before the day is out.

Warmest brofists,
ObviousOne
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
April 25 2013 23:29 GMT
#1846
On April 26 2013 08:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, meaningful in what way? Do you agree that Palmar looks scummy for it? Or did you mean that I look scummy for posting it? DETAILS GUY!

I think Palmar looks scummy for it. Before I honestly just considered it reaching, but now that tube has come up as scum, it is something that is notable in whether Palmar is scum or not. I'll be reevaluating my opinion on him after reading his filter again.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 25 2013 23:29 GMT
#1847
OO you're much more enjoyable when you're posting friend.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 25 2013 23:30 GMT
#1848
On April 26 2013 08:23 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Something else that really bothers me is that a couple of times Palmar has talked about players who should be modkilled or how HE modkills in his games (like that's pertinent to finding scum in the LEAST anyway)

On April 22 2013 06:06 Palmar wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:33 getmoript wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Marvellosity (and only marvellosity) has been removed from the game for repeated refusal to follow the rules for out of game communication and being a dick to me.

Please keep all discussions of modkills until the post-game.

Getmoript has not been modkilled.


Ok. I'll tell you how it is given BH is being an enormous megalomaniac.

geript and I had a QT made for ourselves, which we have been using quite happily. BH decided that we should use the QT that he made, because he's a power-mad weirdo.

I said we're fine with the QT that geript and I made thank you, and BH is now swinging his dick around, saying we're forced to use a QT that he made, despite the rules saying nothing about this, and despite the rules only having this restriction, which we followed:

On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Hydras:
If one of the players would like to hydra with someone else, that is acceptable. Please inform me. Your hydra can have any name, but the signature should be something like "Hydra of Blazinghand and Ange777 for TL Mafia LXI" so that people know what's up.


There were no such rules for out-of-game communication other than that that BlazingHand just edited in to the rules so that he'd be justified being a douchebag.

Anyway, glhf everyone!!

~marv



tbh this should result in a modkill.

It's super unfair to the mafia that he's allowed to reveal information about the nature of the hydra and how it interacts with the host that results in everyone just assuming they're town.

It's also super unfair to town if they're somehow mafia despite all this.

On April 25 2013 05:44 Palmar wrote:
On April 25 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:
Green font it and see if the mods make that info public.


well yeah. In my games you get modkilled for directly asking the host a question in the thread, although I guess I also run my games a bit differently. In fact, what I did, imply that I was going to ask the host a question would probably get me modkilled in my own game anyway.

So I wish I had just kept my mouth shut about it until BH clarified.

thanks BH, for explaining.


But when it comes to actual real modkillable offenses he's completely silent. Like tube's lack of posting for example. Why is Palmar ignoring tube, a player who has made literally one post in the game when Palmar has said the following?

On April 23 2013 00:48 Palmar wrote:
also being inactive in this game is unusally scummy because BH sent a pm to everyone in the game 24 hours before the game started which required a response to be in the game.

So everyone here is fully aware when the game started and reminded of it very close to the start of the game. So being afk or saying nothing is almost inexcusable.



The bolded may have just become a whole lot more meaningful.


Hi scum.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 25 2013 23:31 GMT
#1849
On April 26 2013 08:29 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 08:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, meaningful in what way? Do you agree that Palmar looks scummy for it? Or did you mean that I look scummy for posting it? DETAILS GUY!

I think Palmar looks scummy for it. Before I honestly just considered it reaching, but now that tube has come up as scum, it is something that is notable in whether Palmar is scum or not. I'll be reevaluating my opinion on him after reading his filter again.

I look forward to hearing your conclusions after rereading his filter. Shouldn't take long, but I recommend you look at the posts in context too.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 25 2013 23:31 GMT
#1850
@VE what's your read on Giygas and why?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
April 25 2013 23:32 GMT
#1851
Hi.
VE Town, BC case bad.
Any question?
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
April 25 2013 23:32 GMT
#1852
Got to eat dinner first. I'll brb with results.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 23:34 GMT
#1853
On April 26 2013 08:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 26 2013 08:23 GiygaS wrote:
On April 26 2013 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Something else that really bothers me is that a couple of times Palmar has talked about players who should be modkilled or how HE modkills in his games (like that's pertinent to finding scum in the LEAST anyway)

On April 22 2013 06:06 Palmar wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:33 getmoript wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Marvellosity (and only marvellosity) has been removed from the game for repeated refusal to follow the rules for out of game communication and being a dick to me.

Please keep all discussions of modkills until the post-game.

Getmoript has not been modkilled.


Ok. I'll tell you how it is given BH is being an enormous megalomaniac.

geript and I had a QT made for ourselves, which we have been using quite happily. BH decided that we should use the QT that he made, because he's a power-mad weirdo.

I said we're fine with the QT that geript and I made thank you, and BH is now swinging his dick around, saying we're forced to use a QT that he made, despite the rules saying nothing about this, and despite the rules only having this restriction, which we followed:

On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Hydras:
If one of the players would like to hydra with someone else, that is acceptable. Please inform me. Your hydra can have any name, but the signature should be something like "Hydra of Blazinghand and Ange777 for TL Mafia LXI" so that people know what's up.


There were no such rules for out-of-game communication other than that that BlazingHand just edited in to the rules so that he'd be justified being a douchebag.

Anyway, glhf everyone!!

~marv



tbh this should result in a modkill.

It's super unfair to the mafia that he's allowed to reveal information about the nature of the hydra and how it interacts with the host that results in everyone just assuming they're town.

It's also super unfair to town if they're somehow mafia despite all this.

On April 25 2013 05:44 Palmar wrote:
On April 25 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:
Green font it and see if the mods make that info public.


well yeah. In my games you get modkilled for directly asking the host a question in the thread, although I guess I also run my games a bit differently. In fact, what I did, imply that I was going to ask the host a question would probably get me modkilled in my own game anyway.

So I wish I had just kept my mouth shut about it until BH clarified.

thanks BH, for explaining.


But when it comes to actual real modkillable offenses he's completely silent. Like tube's lack of posting for example. Why is Palmar ignoring tube, a player who has made literally one post in the game when Palmar has said the following?

On April 23 2013 00:48 Palmar wrote:
also being inactive in this game is unusally scummy because BH sent a pm to everyone in the game 24 hours before the game started which required a response to be in the game.

So everyone here is fully aware when the game started and reminded of it very close to the start of the game. So being afk or saying nothing is almost inexcusable.



The bolded may have just become a whole lot more meaningful.

I think it's kinda WIFOMy. If i was using that as evidence i could say why didn't VE bring up DrH/Stutters & Drazak/Artanis? Does it make him scum?

Because neither of those players you just mentioned just flipped scum and tube did?

I don't think the way Palmar was talking about modkillings is alignment indicative.
If i was scum and there are three inactives and one or more of them are scum, i would totally bring up the guy who is my scumbuddy when talking about inactives. In case he gets modkilled i look good. But i don't think this can be used to tell anything about your alignment either.
table for two on a tv tray
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 25 2013 23:34 GMT
#1854
On April 26 2013 08:32 GiygaS wrote:
Got to eat dinner first. I'll brb with results.

I'd like your read on Shiao.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 23:35 GMT
#1855
On April 26 2013 08:34 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 08:32 GiygaS wrote:
Got to eat dinner first. I'll brb with results.

I'd like your read on Shiao.

And Clarity.
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 25 2013 23:36 GMT
#1856
On April 26 2013 08:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hi.
VE Town, BC case bad.
Any question?

Yeah. You're basing the whole of your play on host-WIFOM so far - all you've contributed meaningfully was the idea that we should lynch into vets in spite of the fact that you think "even if they don't look town they can solve the game". Finding that to be cognitive dissonance and would like you to comment on who you think is scum rather than give wishy-washy statements about limiting the lynch today. Thanks, and good day.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 25 2013 23:36 GMT
#1857
On April 26 2013 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
OO you're much more enjoyable when you're posting friend.

I'm leaving for a couple hours to hit the gym in a few minutes. I'm also sort of looking at what's unfolding based on my early push of you today and it's interestingly polarizing. Sorry it had to be you. I can't read you. I thought you were mafia in LX. I knew you were mafia in Nomination and Hydra Mini and Boardwalk for reasons you already know. I really want to get a better handle on your town game mentality, so I will be fishing through your old games to get a slightly better handle on you but I will not be providing a meta case unless it will be for me to decide if I want to push you further.

Originally after I said I wanted to vote you, you started to go for sheeping Vivax's final read. I thought wow, that's convenient, he's on to the same case as the most recent confirmed town. Wasn't pleased. I am warming up to you and you have certainly given me enough to work with for my own private meta read / feel of you. Your interactions with my main scum read are slightly suspect because you are both essentially calling each-other town and I want to take that viewpoint into consideration regarding BC when I read his most recent contributions again after going through your old town games.

I am glad you didn't actually ragequit about the Rayn thing. Yes it's annoying when he seems to make shit up, but I've realized after three games together with him he sees things a little bit differently and I take his accusations with a grain of salt. His attack on you where he made shit up doesn't necessarily make him scum to me, because he did the same exact thing in Red Team's Prize (our first game together).
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 25 2013 23:37 GMT
#1858
@VE. What's your read on Giygas?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 25 2013 23:39 GMT
#1859
On April 26 2013 08:36 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
OO you're much more enjoyable when you're posting friend.

I'm leaving for a couple hours to hit the gym in a few minutes. I'm also sort of looking at what's unfolding based on my early push of you today and it's interestingly polarizing. Sorry it had to be you. I can't read you. I thought you were mafia in LX. I knew you were mafia in Nomination and Hydra Mini and Boardwalk for reasons you already know. I really want to get a better handle on your town game mentality, so I will be fishing through your old games to get a slightly better handle on you but I will not be providing a meta case unless it will be for me to decide if I want to push you further.

Originally after I said I wanted to vote you, you started to go for sheeping Vivax's final read. I thought wow, that's convenient, he's on to the same case as the most recent confirmed town. Wasn't pleased. I am warming up to you and you have certainly given me enough to work with for my own private meta read / feel of you. Your interactions with my main scum read are slightly suspect because you are both essentially calling each-other town and I want to take that viewpoint into consideration regarding BC when I read his most recent contributions again after going through your old town games.

I am glad you didn't actually ragequit about the Rayn thing. Yes it's annoying when he seems to make shit up, but I've realized after three games together with him he sees things a little bit differently and I take his accusations with a grain of salt. His attack on you where he made shit up doesn't necessarily make him scum to me, because he did the same exact thing in Red Team's Prize (our first game together).

The difference is that in that game he eventually saw reason where here he keeps reaching - but frankly it could have just been you getting lynched that opened his eyes in RTP. :/

I look forward to your conclusions. If you could walk me through your suspicion of BC that would be supreme. When you get back-like.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 25 2013 23:39 GMT
#1860
On April 26 2013 08:37 getmoript wrote:
@VE. What's your read on Giygas?

Null. I can look into if you like.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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