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On April 30 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Something tells me based on what im reading I would be yelling as much as you Ace -_- Palmar has a guilty on you tho - thoughts? @stutters: what exactly are you referring to is being based on assumptions and should be done another way?
He needs to know his sanity but there is no way in hell hes sane. I doubt beyond belief that Bh would have me as a miller. As 3 millers a framer and then two dts who have to figure out their sanity + parity cop, masons, and at least 1 jailer if not two leads me to think theres a shit ton of lying going on
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I'm really concerned that I don't know who Artanis finds suspicious or what he's really doing at all. The thing is with all the shenanigans, it's hard to discern players who just feel helplessly lost in the maelstrom and players who are maliciously encouraging confusion.
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On April 30 2013 05:58 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 05:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 30 2013 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 30 2013 05:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Yamato, I suggest you do something to make yourself feel better.
Have you come up with a good name for Grimes yet? And you.......you. What the fuck are YOU doing? I missed out on the fun when 3 people claimed cop which I'm very sad about so I'm making up for lost time. Seriously, I've been holding off on calling you out on it just to see how far you'd continue. You're far too interested in funny variations of GiygaS' name, and absolutely not interested in doing anything constructive. I'd feel great about someone shooting you tonight.
You're just jealous of the attention he's getting, Hydrant.
+ Show Spoiler +We don't have any vigilantes anyway and I just felt like having some fun. Will probably do useful things again after flips.
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On April 30 2013 06:02 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 05:55 Stutters695 wrote:On April 30 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Something tells me based on what im reading I would be yelling as much as you Ace -_- Palmar has a guilty on you tho - thoughts? @stutters: what exactly are you referring to is being based on assumptions and should be done another way? I'm in my phone now so can't pull the exact quote but I remembered a detailed post about how people on the oats &ships wagons probably had a scum among them. Then your posts about cop claims and what they mean is all dependanrt on assumptions and thus could just be conjecture to appear active without giving out as much as you would with your earlier play which felt more solid to me. Since I'm a prime vig target and could easily die before or with Shiao i felt it worth bringing up because you're clearly able to pull off such a play. you have to start with some assumptions and go back to read each cops' posts. I dont see what else you expect us to do to figure this out - just take every claim at face value? You are like 4 days late with the Oats wagon analysis. It's been done to death and generally accepted by now. When you get off your phone just point out where the assumptions dont hold up and if it hasn't already been addressed I'll be here to talk about it.
Sorry I'm not making myself clear and I agree assumptions are necessary, but in addition to more question based analysis (and I do think your assumptions hold up as reasonable). It's more if Shiao flips red that kills a pretty major point of your contribution n2/d3 and it feels like your posting lacks the quality of your earlier posts in regards to discovering stuff in favor of theorizing which cop is lying instead of trying to determine which one/two are lying.
This is probably just me being paranoid but it's something I've strongly considered when thinking what i I would do in scums shoes.
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On April 30 2013 06:13 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 06:02 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 05:55 Stutters695 wrote:On April 30 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Something tells me based on what im reading I would be yelling as much as you Ace -_- Palmar has a guilty on you tho - thoughts? @stutters: what exactly are you referring to is being based on assumptions and should be done another way? I'm in my phone now so can't pull the exact quote but I remembered a detailed post about how people on the oats &ships wagons probably had a scum among them. Then your posts about cop claims and what they mean is all dependanrt on assumptions and thus could just be conjecture to appear active without giving out as much as you would with your earlier play which felt more solid to me. Since I'm a prime vig target and could easily die before or with Shiao i felt it worth bringing up because you're clearly able to pull off such a play. you have to start with some assumptions and go back to read each cops' posts. I dont see what else you expect us to do to figure this out - just take every claim at face value? You are like 4 days late with the Oats wagon analysis. It's been done to death and generally accepted by now. When you get off your phone just point out where the assumptions dont hold up and if it hasn't already been addressed I'll be here to talk about it. Sorry I'm not making myself clear and I agree assumptions are necessary, but in addition to more question based analysis (and I do think your assumptions hold up as reasonable). It's more if Shiao flips red that kills a pretty major point of your contribution n2/d3 and it feels like your posting lacks the quality of your earlier posts in regards to discovering stuff in favor of theorizing which cop is lying instead of trying to determine which one/two are lying. This is probably just me being paranoid but it's something I've strongly considered when thinking what i I would do in scums shoes.
I think you're confusing what I did with scum motivations I dont have. I acknowledged both could be scum. It came down to which is more likely scum. Before CC's claim and Sylv's flip: If I'm scum why would I take that path? why defend Shiao and have our Scum vigilante flip and drop our KP?
hence Shiao being red = the analysis holds. Make sure you read the entire thing correctly. I think you're mixing up the Oats/Vivax stuff with the "whos the better lynch" between Clarity/Shiao parts. Remember: Shiao flipping scum means there indeed was Scum on Oats wagon which is what started the analysis.
I dont understand the bolded: I am trying to determine who is lying. Or do you mean something else?
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On April 30 2013 06:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm really concerned that I don't know who Artanis finds suspicious or what he's really doing at all. The thing is with all the shenanigans, it's hard to discern players who just feel helplessly lost in the maelstrom and players who are maliciously encouraging confusion.
On April 28 2013 22:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't need to read the entire game to see that you're town VE. I'll indulge you and give a few short words why I suspect each though.
Kush: Bandwagoned on rayn, playing lazy, soft defends GiygaS
GiygaS: Aforementioned quote triggered my scumdar.
ShiaoPi: Active and happy during the early game, then activity took a nosedive for no apparent reason. Nothing of worth in filter.
Sylencia: Lots of shitty posts, hard to tell if he's scum or bad town given history of mislynches.
BC: Practically AFK during D1, comes back with a shitty case on Yamato filled with false accusations and confirmation bias. A tunnel that he's been on for some time now. BC should be better then that.
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A LOT OF SHIT HAS HAPPENED ARTANIS AND INSTEAD OF COMMENT ON IT AND DRAW CONCLUSIONS YOU'RE DISCUSSING ASTHETIC VARIATIONS OF A PLAYERS FUCKING NAME BRO
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On April 30 2013 06:07 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 06:04 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 30 2013 06:02 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 05:55 Stutters695 wrote:On April 30 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Something tells me based on what im reading I would be yelling as much as you Ace -_- Palmar has a guilty on you tho - thoughts? @stutters: what exactly are you referring to is being based on assumptions and should be done another way? I'm in my phone now so can't pull the exact quote but I remembered a detailed post about how people on the oats &ships wagons probably had a scum among them. Then your posts about cop claims and what they mean is all dependanrt on assumptions and thus could just be conjecture to appear active without giving out as much as you would with your earlier play which felt more solid to me. Since I'm a prime vig target and could easily die before or with Shiao i felt it worth bringing up because you're clearly able to pull off such a play. you have to start with some assumptions and go back to read each cops' posts. I dont see what else you expect us to do to figure this out - just take every claim at face value? You are like 4 days late with the Oats wagon analysis. It's been done to death and generally accepted by now. When you get off your phone just point out where the assumptions dont hold up and if it hasn't already been addressed I'll be here to talk about it. It's pretty simple isn't it? If Shiao and Clarity both scum then any wagon analysis you did comparing the Shiao/Oats wagons when you did are useless. we already said shiao could still be scum. We covered this like 20 times - go back and read it. Shioa WAS on the Oats wagon. Thats how we brought him up in the first place. It came down to which of the 2 was more likely Scum - Clarity or Shiao? Clarity flipped Vigilante Scum. Shiao is still alive and was on the wagon. Multiple players on the wagon are also still alive. Hence, the analysis holds. read it carefully.
But Shiao wasn't on the wagon, he voted VE, not clarity.
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On April 30 2013 06:22 GiygaS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 06:07 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 06:04 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 30 2013 06:02 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 05:55 Stutters695 wrote:On April 30 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Something tells me based on what im reading I would be yelling as much as you Ace -_- Palmar has a guilty on you tho - thoughts? @stutters: what exactly are you referring to is being based on assumptions and should be done another way? I'm in my phone now so can't pull the exact quote but I remembered a detailed post about how people on the oats &ships wagons probably had a scum among them. Then your posts about cop claims and what they mean is all dependanrt on assumptions and thus could just be conjecture to appear active without giving out as much as you would with your earlier play which felt more solid to me. Since I'm a prime vig target and could easily die before or with Shiao i felt it worth bringing up because you're clearly able to pull off such a play. you have to start with some assumptions and go back to read each cops' posts. I dont see what else you expect us to do to figure this out - just take every claim at face value? You are like 4 days late with the Oats wagon analysis. It's been done to death and generally accepted by now. When you get off your phone just point out where the assumptions dont hold up and if it hasn't already been addressed I'll be here to talk about it. It's pretty simple isn't it? If Shiao and Clarity both scum then any wagon analysis you did comparing the Shiao/Oats wagons when you did are useless. we already said shiao could still be scum. We covered this like 20 times - go back and read it. Shioa WAS on the Oats wagon. Thats how we brought him up in the first place. It came down to which of the 2 was more likely Scum - Clarity or Shiao? Clarity flipped Vigilante Scum. Shiao is still alive and was on the wagon. Multiple players on the wagon are also still alive. Hence, the analysis holds. read it carefully. But Shiao wasn't on the wagon, he voted VE, not clarity.
BUT SHIAO WASN'T ON THE MAFMFMAFMNAONVANIOIN WAGON ACE
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WHY AM I SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW?!! I CAN'T STOP ESHOUTING!!!
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On April 30 2013 06:22 GiygaS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 06:07 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 06:04 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 30 2013 06:02 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 05:55 Stutters695 wrote:On April 30 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Something tells me based on what im reading I would be yelling as much as you Ace -_- Palmar has a guilty on you tho - thoughts? @stutters: what exactly are you referring to is being based on assumptions and should be done another way? I'm in my phone now so can't pull the exact quote but I remembered a detailed post about how people on the oats &ships wagons probably had a scum among them. Then your posts about cop claims and what they mean is all dependanrt on assumptions and thus could just be conjecture to appear active without giving out as much as you would with your earlier play which felt more solid to me. Since I'm a prime vig target and could easily die before or with Shiao i felt it worth bringing up because you're clearly able to pull off such a play. you have to start with some assumptions and go back to read each cops' posts. I dont see what else you expect us to do to figure this out - just take every claim at face value? You are like 4 days late with the Oats wagon analysis. It's been done to death and generally accepted by now. When you get off your phone just point out where the assumptions dont hold up and if it hasn't already been addressed I'll be here to talk about it. It's pretty simple isn't it? If Shiao and Clarity both scum then any wagon analysis you did comparing the Shiao/Oats wagons when you did are useless. we already said shiao could still be scum. We covered this like 20 times - go back and read it. Shioa WAS on the Oats wagon. Thats how we brought him up in the first place. It came down to which of the 2 was more likely Scum - Clarity or Shiao? Clarity flipped Vigilante Scum. Shiao is still alive and was on the wagon. Multiple players on the wagon are also still alive. Hence, the analysis holds. read it carefully. But Shiao wasn't on the wagon, he voted VE, not clarity.
Not to mention we already provided extremely valid reasons why 'sacrificing' Clarity over Shiao made sense at the time; Clarity was about to modkilled anyway. Easier to eliminate a useless scumplayer on your team and gain cred than to eliminate someone who mght actually play the game.
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Anyway, on Ace:
Acted disinterested on day 1, and I still think what he said was a contradiction. His day 1 was anti-town. Since then, he's been a pro-town force. For his day 1, I still think he's 3p (not scum) for his day 1, but he could easily be town as well. Definitely not worth a lynch or vig at this point when we have the whole triple cop claim caper going on.
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Ace................................
did you just slip, my dear?
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On April 30 2013 06:22 GiygaS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 06:07 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 06:04 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 30 2013 06:02 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 05:55 Stutters695 wrote:On April 30 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Something tells me based on what im reading I would be yelling as much as you Ace -_- Palmar has a guilty on you tho - thoughts? @stutters: what exactly are you referring to is being based on assumptions and should be done another way? I'm in my phone now so can't pull the exact quote but I remembered a detailed post about how people on the oats &ships wagons probably had a scum among them. Then your posts about cop claims and what they mean is all dependanrt on assumptions and thus could just be conjecture to appear active without giving out as much as you would with your earlier play which felt more solid to me. Since I'm a prime vig target and could easily die before or with Shiao i felt it worth bringing up because you're clearly able to pull off such a play. you have to start with some assumptions and go back to read each cops' posts. I dont see what else you expect us to do to figure this out - just take every claim at face value? You are like 4 days late with the Oats wagon analysis. It's been done to death and generally accepted by now. When you get off your phone just point out where the assumptions dont hold up and if it hasn't already been addressed I'll be here to talk about it. It's pretty simple isn't it? If Shiao and Clarity both scum then any wagon analysis you did comparing the Shiao/Oats wagons when you did are useless. we already said shiao could still be scum. We covered this like 20 times - go back and read it. Shioa WAS on the Oats wagon. Thats how we brought him up in the first place. It came down to which of the 2 was more likely Scum - Clarity or Shiao? Clarity flipped Vigilante Scum. Shiao is still alive and was on the wagon. Multiple players on the wagon are also still alive. Hence, the analysis holds. read it carefully. But Shiao wasn't on the wagon, he voted VE, not clarity.
I'm talking about the Day 1 wagon, not Day 2.
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EBWOP: I meant he wasn't on the clarity lynch, like he was trying to avoid offing his scummate.
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Ace, you compared the D1 and D2 wagons though in the middle of Day 2.
Was Shiao on the Clarity wagon at any point during the day?
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Ah, we were just talking about different things, ok.
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On April 30 2013 06:26 GiygaS wrote:
Anyway, on Ace:
Acted disinterested on day 1, and I still think what he said was a contradiction. His day 1 was anti-town. Since then, he's been a pro-town force. For his day 1, I still think he's 3p (not scum) for his day 1, but he could easily be town as well. Definitely not worth a lynch or vig at this point when we have the whole triple cop claim caper going on.
what did I do anti-town Day 1? can you point this stuff out?
!wos: what slip? im not scum I cant slip
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On April 30 2013 06:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ace, you compared the D1 and D2 wagons though in the middle of Day 2.
Was Shiao on the Clarity wagon at any point during the day?
No he only voted for VE and then basically peace'd
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