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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:48 Sharrant wrote: I think that's a terrible idea. I'm 100% sure Ace is town. Check to confirm the other claims. I agree with this. Not the 100% town part, but the rest.  | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:45 WaveofShadow wrote: Also I love how you're misdirecting right now and calling me names rather than address the points I'm bringing up. It's obvious that I'm referring to your specific derailing of the Shiao lynch to get Clarity, a likely modkill, lynched, not the fact that you killed one of possibly 2 scum. Killing scum is great, but it's HOW you went about it that worries me. He also has not shied away from lynching ShiaoPi as well. I doubt even the scum team would have had the knowledge that ShiaoPi was not going to get mod killed either because of his schedule (assuming he's scum). Combine that with the fact that Ace actually took the time to read my case (not something I see scum Ace doing), and then took it and ran, being the main pressure behind the lynch (when he easily could have just been the main pressure behind Shiao's lynch) makes him assuredly town in my eyes. His analysis has been spot on from what I've been able to figure out, and mostly holds up with my own. I don't think he sacrificed two KP when he could have killed one and gotten the same town cred. Especially since that would mean he bussed and soft bussed half of the remaining mafia team. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Go ahead and tell me how they got brought up, my computer is slow. I vote Shiao Day 2. Ask Bill Murray what he thinks of him. Sharrant's case on clarity comes up, I switch to clarity. I also say the people voting for VE want him dead just because, and not because they think he is scum. <---this is important. If I'm Scum and would know ShiaoPi and clarity are on my team this is prime time to push VE. I then ask getmoript if he agrees clarity, ShiaPi and VE are our wagons for the day. pay attention. Once again - if those 2 are my scumbuddies why would I be the only person to narrow the wagons down and bring heat where 2 of 3 the players to get lynched are my allies? this is the analysis posts that kicks everything off: On April 25 2013 14:16 Ace wrote: Ok so check this out from my notes. We know Oats was a Town mislynch. The person who started the case was Vivax who also flipped Town. We know this wasn't a Scum started lynch but with a hammer of 13, I doubt it's possible that 0 Scum were on Oats' wagon. This is the list order: Oatsmaster: Palmar, kushm4sta, GiygaS, Vivax, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Ace, WaveofShadow,yamato77,VisceraEyes,Palmar,getmoript, Mr. CC, Hopeless1der, Sylencia, ShiaoPi I'm going to remove myself and Vivax obviously. Ignore rayne for now because of his activity levels, and clearly yourself. Oatsmaster: Palmar, kushm4sta, GiygaS, kushm4sta, WaveofShadow,yamato77,VisceraEyes,Palmar, Mr. CC, Hopeless1der, Sylencia, ShiaoPi Almost this entire remaining list is full of low activity players. I highly doubt out of all remaining 11 names here not 1 is Scum and I think this is where we should start paying attention. A townie is getting lynched and just too many people that lurk are on here and not all of them can be Town. It also just so happens that VE and ShiaoPi are on this list too. With vigis waking up tonight I'm all for them clearing out the lurkers on this voting list, while we potentially lynch from here. Of course one suspect (Clarity) isn't here but we can discuss that too. Thoughts? the nrext page of my filter is going back and forth with people on why I believe ShiaPi over Clarity. Once again, pay attention - there is NO mention of VE here. In fact I end up arguing with VE too. If these 2 are my scum buddies why am I not pushing VE here and arguing over which of my 2 scum buddies should die, and push the vigilante and drop our KP by 2 that night. My entire analysis combines looking at the thread from multiple angles and I still acnknowledge at the end ShiaPi can be Scum. It isn't till later I start saying he is temp green. And thats exactly what it is: temporary until more information becoems available, like today. There is nothing here that supports your idea of me being Scum. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:55 Palmar wrote: This is a great game. I'm just going to do nothing and let the hilariousness happen. I really have a bad case of the cba this game. I feel you, Palmar. I really do. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:48 GiygaS wrote: Clarity got brought up by Vivax (sure of this one), I think Shiao was sort of everyone having similar suspicions at around the same time. I don't think there was one singular person that sort of spearheaded Shiao, but Clarity originated from Vivax for sure. vivax mentioned him. Sharran brought up a different case on clarity altogether. I showed up and pushed clarity based on sharrant. later I made the analysis also using Vivax's call out against him. That was the VE+clarity+Shiao trinity we got down to. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:55 Palmar wrote: This is a great game. I'm just going to do nothing and let the hilariousness happen. I really have a bad case of the cba this game. action packed for sure. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:45 VisceraEyes wrote: I think I'ma check Ace tonight instead. What do you think guys? you could, but why would you run away from checking Palmar? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:55 Palmar wrote: This is a great game. I'm just going to do nothing and let the hilariousness happen. I really have a bad case of the cba this game. I feel you entirely. I'm still going to try to do something because I feel guilty for the people that are putting in effort but it's very very hard to not go full troll mode at this point. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:59 Ace wrote: you could, but why would you run away from checking Palmar? I'm not running away from anything - but given everything, I think we should just lynch Palmar to check him. He doesn't even fucking care. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
tearing ourselves apart yo | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 30 2013 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not running away from anything - but given everything, I think we should just lynch Palmar to check him. He doesn't even fucking care. Palmar cares. just in a different way. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
Explain. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
he only cares about himself. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Because Palmar is king. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On April 30 2013 07:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Is BC still around or did he literally just show up to buddy Ace? aroundish. I am still trying to sort this shit out | ||
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