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VisceraEyes
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Bill Murray
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Ace
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Ace
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On April 30 2013 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote: And if even one of us is NOT legit, then they could feasilby completely fuck up your plan Ace. no, they can't lol. this is so simple but sure - explain to me how they can. I'll even allow you the low possibility of them having two framers. Go for it. | ||
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Bill Murray
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kill shiaopi instead | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Let's suppose, as you posit, that one of the checks is fake. For the sake of argument, let's assume it's Cheese. What happens when scum frame Palmar? | ||
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Bill Murray
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Bill Murray
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On April 30 2013 08:32 VisceraEyes wrote: Parity don't have sanities, my checks are only manipulable through actions. Let's suppose, as you posit, that one of the checks is fake. For the sake of argument, let's assume it's Cheese. What happens when scum frame Palmar? that is a good point we shouldnt direct the detectives with a framer | ||
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Ace
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but here: Let's suppose, as you posit, that one of the checks is fake. For the sake of argument, let's assume it's Cheese. What happens when scum frame Palmar? If Palmar is Scum and framed you should get same back if you're legit PC. Cheese would have to also fake his result and have you show up as Scum. If he is Town he shows up as Scum and looks different on your check. Cheese would still get the same result showing you as Scum. Only way cheese doesn't is if he wants to claim you are scum, getting innocent and you rally are. But we would never know who got framed. And being that a framer already died why would we assume there is a second scum framer that would also target Palmar and NOT one of you? | ||
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Palmar
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Ace
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On April 30 2013 08:37 Palmar wrote: didnt the framer flip? yes, but VE is asking what happens if there is a second one that can mess up checks tonight. | ||
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Palmar
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VisceraEyes
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My point is that you're saying it's unlikely that scum have another framer. Considering the apparent lack of vigs and high volume of DT's, I'm wondering what your motivation is for pushing this notion. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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SOMEONE OTHER THAN PEOPLE WHO DELIGHT IN PISSING ME OFF PLEASE PARTICPATE IN DISCUSSION FOR THE LOVE OF GOD | ||
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VisceraEyes
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I'm peacing out. Good luck figuring this shit out. | ||
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Ace
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Remember - this is with a framer. they are screwed either way. | ||
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ObviousOne
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TheRavensName
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VisceraEyes
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On April 30 2013 08:57 Ace wrote: Ok VE. assume they have another framer for fun. If any 2 of you are telling the truth they can't do anything about it. Even if they altered your check we know that short of his night 1 check being framed and him lying Mr.CC has to be an insane detective. That would let his check go through AND Palmar's. and we know what you have to look like if you are also legit. This all boils down to the Scum team having 2 framers and hoping 2 of you are lying about being detectives just to hope we dont work backwards to figure it out. It would MAYBE save them one day. Remember - this is with a framer. they are screwed either way. This doesn't explain anything. FUCKING NOTHING Let's assume that all three of us are telling the truth, and we're ALL cops. With a framer. Here's where we stand: VE = Parity Cop (not subject to sanities) Cheese = Alignment Cop (Insane) Palmar = Alignment Cop (Unconfirmed Sanity) For fun let's have the framer target Palmar because I've thought he was scum all game and that would be hilarious. Your plan is this: VE -> Palmar Palmar->CC CC->VE With the framer targeting Palmar we should see results like this: Palmar (through "Different" because Syl was last check and flipped town) CC (unknown because Palmar's sanity isn't confirmed) VE (because insane) Which we can then distill into Scum Palmar ????? Cheesecake Town VE Town VE's check is legit because his alignment is "confirmed" now right? So we lynch Palmar for being fake-claiming cop. Except he's NOT a fake-claiming cop is he? He's a damned REAL cop! And what happens then? Well we either assume framer OR we lynch the fuck out of VE next cycle! In what way does this confirm anything Ace? HOW?! | ||
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ObviousOne
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VE do you feel like BC is backed into a corner with his red check from Palmar that he's not even going to bother trying to convince us of his innocence? If Palmar dies tonight and we don't further check BC somehow we won't find out Palmar's sanity until the post-game, so I think one of you or CC should check him tonight but not both. That or you can use the opportunity to check the claimed miller WoS to see if you can even get red checks and verify your paranoia. Or we can say fuck cop checks and just lynch scummy looking players. IDK, I'm not really big on night actions but I get the feeling if we don't resolve some more things about them they will probably not end up being terribly useful. What do you think about that? | ||
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