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strongandbig
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Djodref
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On November 19 2012 00:55 debears wrote: 1) I would strongly look at Hopeless if another kill showed up. However, in my thought process, it would be fucking retarded for a SK to claim vig n1. Think about it. He would paint a target on his back for the mafia by being a confirmed town 2 and 3) Djo, it's a proven fact that, the longer the game goes on, the worse it is for the anti-town alignments. It gets so much harder to hide @ debears 1) I agree with you on this one. Would you say that your D1 history with Hopeless is over then  ?2) and 3) You got me convinced that the SK is going to kill tonight and maybe have double-stacked his kill on marv yesterday, if he exists of course. On a side note, you said that you wanted to auto-lynch S&B tomorrow but I'm not sure if you mentioned other scum reads lately. What do you think about BH post on Clarity ? | ||
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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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strongandbig
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On November 19 2012 01:37 Blazinghand wrote: snb y u so mad didue u gotta chill out is that dota screencap fake or what no its not fake i have no idea what iamperfection was talking about, i've been assuming he has some kind of point and he'll get to it eventually as for "y u so mad didue u gotta chill out" all i have to say is, I guess your plan to discredit me by insulting me and getting me angry is working. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 19 2012 01:32 Clarity_nl wrote: Wait Djo you think BH is JK now? @ Clarity No, I don't think that he is JK yet but I have some doubts since his last contributions. I'm a little less inclined that he is scum. He was right about the blues, it has to be their decision. And I liked his contribution about your interactions with Hapa during D1. Did I make a clumsy post again ? | ||
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strongandbig
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i'll take a look at it eventually, right now I want keirathi to get back to us on the one-shot-role question. | ||
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Blazinghand
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Djodref
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On November 19 2012 01:35 strongandbig wrote: hopeless can't be fakeclaiming, because then someone would have had to be around to roleblock BH - only BH can be fakeclaiming. And as for your other point, I think that it's not necessarily a suicidal move if you (a) think you can get away with it, or (b) don't really think you can / want to try to win normally as SK in the first place Basically, I still think BH's claim makes as much sense from an SK as it does from an actual town jailkeeper. @ S&B Regarding the impossibility for Hopeless to fakeclaim in TTTTT, you have a good point, I didn't think about that. Regarding BH being a SK with a jailkeeper claim, I cannot really believe it. You are supposed to play to win after all ^^ So I'm going to assume a third scum from now on. Anyway, I hope that the blues are going to out themselves so we can know all this for sure. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 19 2012 01:36 Djodref wrote: @ debears 1) I agree with you on this one. Would you say that your D1 history with Hopeless is over then ?2) and 3) You got me convinced that the SK is going to kill tonight and maybe have double-stacked his kill on marv yesterday, if he exists of course. On a side note, you said that you wanted to auto-lynch S&B tomorrow but I'm not sure if you mentioned other scum reads lately. What do you think about BH post on Clarity ? As I said, I've found clarity's posting weird lately, especially with his certainty on what z-Bo was going to flip. There was a reason z-Bo was up for lynch, there's only 1 scum/sk most likely. How was clarity so sure he was town? Why didn't he hard defend him more if he thought z-Bo was town? That, and yes, Clarity's interactions with Hapa are weird. Djo I've been getting townie vibes from u lately, so I'm thinking it's down to SnB and Clarity right now, with SnB in the lead | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I was actually super certain you were going to lynch snb though. | ||
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Clarity_nl
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Djodref
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On November 19 2012 01:32 Clarity_nl wrote: Wait Djo you think BH is JK now? @ Clarity Were you talking about this post ? + Show Spoiler + On November 19 2012 01:25 Djodref wrote: Is it possible to know how the single-shot roles were handled ? I was assuming that the letters have been rolled and rolled again until you got something fitting the modified rules for this game, was I correct ? @ S&B I appreciate to have someone to speculate this setup with. I agree that we should not totally discard TTTTT because one of BH or Hopeless could be fake claiming and be a SK but it doesn't make sense for any of them. Especially a blind fake JK claim from a SK during D1, it is clearly a suicidal move. What do you think ? If yes, TTTTT is a setup where there is no more scum but only one lonely SK left. And in this case, it would necessarily would be BH because he would be fake claiming JK. I brought up this possibility once and the only one inclined to believe it is S&B. According to me, it is just a possibility but I cannot believe in it. I know that BH has a large penis but I cannot even imagine the ball size you need to pull off a play like this. | ||
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Clarity_nl
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@ debears On November 16 2012 23:57 debears wrote: Let me help you out Town: Me Iamp Kickstart Dp Zbo 2 scum voted zbo. He's town. <snip> On November 17 2012 00:06 debears wrote: Clarity, which has less assumptions? Scum voting for hapa: Wanted to bus their active, best player and godfather for town cred d1 on a last minute voteswing Wanted to bus said player over zbo, who had 8 votes on him on a last minute voteswing Wanted to depend on crossfire and himself to carry the team. Lol *remember how hapa said he was afk? Why would scum do that if hapa wasnt in the thread and couldnt talk himself out of being lynched? So dumb* Scum voting not hapa: Easy lynch on Zbo <snip> On November 17 2012 00:18 debears wrote: Zbo had 8 votes on him with 5 minutes left. 2 of those votes were scum. Yeah theyd surely bus him d1 And all of that led to..... On November 18 2012 01:31 debears wrote: ##unvote ##vote zbo 1) zbo a lot of us have noticed your meta is different. And it isn't your amount of posting that's it. Its how you have not pursued your scumreads. You tunneled me to death when I played with you. You haven't done shit this game 2) you're a liability heading into lylo. With your difference in meta and the miller claim, there will always be that doubt in the back of our heads 3) you chose to make a case on thrawn/djo. Its curteousy to allow replacements time to get in the game, especially when 2 scum are already gone. Also, you're reasoning is bullshit. Replacing out of a game cuz one of your scum partners being killed would result in penalties. Its unsportsmanlike. 4) early d1, you had your suspicions on me. Yet, when I pointed out snbs claim, you jumped on him while continueing to be suspicious of me and lecture me 5) after your vote on snb, hapa attacked dp for voting snb and ignored your vote on snb, although you voted first Can't post more right now our internet is down in our dorms. Yay 3g on phone "Zbo you are a liability and more likely scum than snb" ?????? I don't understand. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Would you agree that if our setup is TTTTT and that BH is SK then he automatically loses this game ? I mean, you have a "confirmed" JK going into MYLO or LYLO, getting role blocked every night with no evidence of any other blue role, then this "confirmed" JK has to go. BH at LYLO + no other blue (dead or alive) = automatically lynch BH If people remember this, then we can safely forget the TTTTT setup for the moment | ||
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Clarity_nl
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
 It's getting late in Korea though and I have to work tomorrow. But this game is keeping me awake so I'll wait. In the meantime @ Clarity You did ask me about Kickstart and I hope that my answer satisfied you. What is your read on him ? | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
If he just turned them into VTs, then BH would say that the setup is TTMVVDC or TTMVVDD, and that he's still "confirmed jailkeeper" but there were no other blues. If Keirathi either (a) turned one-shot roles into full roles, or (b) re-rolled any setup that had one-shot roles in it, then yes I agree, a serial killer automatically loses at LYLO when there are no more blue roles. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I find his disappearing act quite annoying. His D1 play seemed legitimate but the more people said they had a townread on him the more he faded away into the background, where he is supposedly reading everything yet "nothing changed since last I gave my opinion" I still think he's town, but I'm doubting. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 19 2012 00:47 debears wrote: For two vets, they have both ridiculously underperformed. They have been obnoxious. I was getting tired of it. And hell, chances are one of them is scum (more likely SnB imo) On November 19 2012 01:54 debears wrote: As I said, I've found clarity's posting weird lately, especially with his certainty on what z-Bo was going to flip. There was a reason z-Bo was up for lynch, there's only 1 scum/sk most likely. How was clarity so sure he was town? Why didn't he hard defend him more if he thought z-Bo was town? That, and yes, Clarity's interactions with Hapa are weird. Djo I've been getting townie vibes from u lately, so I'm thinking it's down to SnB and Clarity right now, with SnB in the lead @ debears I'm a little sad that you switched from S&B and BH to S&B and Clarity. Could you tell me what changed your mind ? Are you dropping BH for real or just for the moment ? I've been thinking about BH lately and I think that we can get him setup-wise at the end if he is a bad guy. I mean, SK or scum, he would have to go at LYLO and his fake claim could be proved because the rightful blues would have been revealed at this point (dead or claimed blues). What do you think ? | ||
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