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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 18 2012 18:27 GMT
#2781
On November 19 2012 03:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like I said. They want the cop dead ASAP. You are no threat since you'll just get perma roleblocked.
The order does matter. I'd be shocked if the scum shoots you or hopeless.

i agree with this
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
November 18 2012 18:27 GMT
#2782
Um, but they can't shoot the cop tonight cause they don't know who he is, right? Tonight they HAVE to shoot me or hopeless, then tomorrow night shoot the cop, then the night after shoot whichever they didn't shoot out of me and hopeless. Am I missing something here?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 18 2012 18:28 GMT
#2783
On November 19 2012 03:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Um, but they can't shoot the cop tonight cause they don't know who he is, right? Tonight they HAVE to shoot me or hopeless, then tomorrow night shoot the cop, then the night after shoot whichever they didn't shoot out of me and hopeless. Am I missing something here?

if the cop checks the scum its gg
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
November 18 2012 18:28 GMT
#2784
Look I think you guys are missing the point here, which is that there are three nights left, including this one, and there are three blues who will be confirmed town if in fact there is a mass claim, the situation we're talking about. If indeed there is a mass claim, scum needs to go into LYLO with as few confirmed townies as possible, and that means using their three remaining shots on the three blues. Why wouldn't they shoot blues?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 18 2012 18:28 GMT
#2785
for the scum at least
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
November 18 2012 18:30 GMT
#2786
On November 19 2012 03:28 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 03:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Um, but they can't shoot the cop tonight cause they don't know who he is, right? Tonight they HAVE to shoot me or hopeless, then tomorrow night shoot the cop, then the night after shoot whichever they didn't shoot out of me and hopeless. Am I missing something here?

if the cop checks the scum its gg


Hm, that's a good point. I forgot about that. In fact, even a cop with two green checks can make this game massively more difficult for scum since that would bring us up to 5 confirmed townies out of 8 players tomorrow
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 18 2012 18:31 GMT
#2787
On November 19 2012 03:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 03:28 iamperfection wrote:
On November 19 2012 03:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Um, but they can't shoot the cop tonight cause they don't know who he is, right? Tonight they HAVE to shoot me or hopeless, then tomorrow night shoot the cop, then the night after shoot whichever they didn't shoot out of me and hopeless. Am I missing something here?

if the cop checks the scum its gg


Hm, that's a good point. I forgot about that. In fact, even a cop with two green checks can make this game massively more difficult for scum since that would bring us up to 5 confirmed townies out of 8 players tomorrow

you see i'm not that useless am i.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
November 18 2012 18:32 GMT
#2788
On November 19 2012 03:31 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 03:30 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 19 2012 03:28 iamperfection wrote:
On November 19 2012 03:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Um, but they can't shoot the cop tonight cause they don't know who he is, right? Tonight they HAVE to shoot me or hopeless, then tomorrow night shoot the cop, then the night after shoot whichever they didn't shoot out of me and hopeless. Am I missing something here?

if the cop checks the scum its gg


Hm, that's a good point. I forgot about that. In fact, even a cop with two green checks can make this game massively more difficult for scum since that would bring us up to 5 confirmed townies out of 8 players tomorrow

you see i'm not that useless am i.

I have never insinuated that _in my entire life_ and I am astonished you think I'd think that about you. I hold you in the highest esteem, sonny boyo lad child etc etc
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 18 2012 18:32 GMT
#2789
iamp taking credit for clarity's points since 2012
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 18 2012 18:34 GMT
#2790
On November 19 2012 03:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 03:31 iamperfection wrote:
On November 19 2012 03:30 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 19 2012 03:28 iamperfection wrote:
On November 19 2012 03:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Um, but they can't shoot the cop tonight cause they don't know who he is, right? Tonight they HAVE to shoot me or hopeless, then tomorrow night shoot the cop, then the night after shoot whichever they didn't shoot out of me and hopeless. Am I missing something here?

if the cop checks the scum its gg


Hm, that's a good point. I forgot about that. In fact, even a cop with two green checks can make this game massively more difficult for scum since that would bring us up to 5 confirmed townies out of 8 players tomorrow

you see i'm not that useless am i.

I have never insinuated that _in my entire life_ and I am astonished you think I'd think that about you. I hold you in the highest esteem, sonny boyo lad child etc etc

we have a love hate relationship bh.

i do love you though.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 18 2012 18:34 GMT
#2791
On November 19 2012 03:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
iamp taking credit for clarity's points since 2012

ya but i gave the why clarity very important
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 18 2012 18:35 GMT
#2792
I thought it was obvious =/
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 18 2012 18:37 GMT
#2793
On November 19 2012 03:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
I thought it was obvious =/

obviously not
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 18 2012 18:37 GMT
#2794
Okay enough fluff. iamp what's your read on debears currently?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 18 2012 18:38 GMT
#2795
alright im out for the afternoon ill post my big list of thoughts on everyone during the grace period.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 18 2012 18:38 GMT
#2796
On November 19 2012 03:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
Okay enough fluff. iamp what's your read on debears currently?

you will have to wait.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 18 2012 18:39 GMT
#2797
ninja. Fair enough.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 18 2012 19:33 GMT
#2798
On November 19 2012 02:40 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 00:47 debears wrote:
On November 18 2012 18:40 Djodref wrote:
@ debears

Shit, I have just missed you. Anyway, it was a long time ago but I still want have some details about what happened in your head during the exchange between S&B and BH at D2. Especially I want to know why you posted this.

On November 17 2012 14:08 Djodref wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:36 debears wrote:
Can we double lynch BH and SnB????


@ debears

Can you explain me this post and your latest vote and unvote against BH in details ?


For two vets, they have both ridiculously underperformed. They have been obnoxious. I was getting tired of it.

And hell, chances are one of them is scum (more likely SnB imo)


Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 01:54 debears wrote:
On November 19 2012 01:36 Djodref wrote:
On November 19 2012 00:55 debears wrote:
On November 18 2012 18:50 Djodref wrote:
On November 18 2012 18:18 debears wrote:
On November 18 2012 17:59 Djodref wrote:
@ debears

I disagree, it could be a good strategy for a possible SK to retain his night kills until we manage to find the last scum.
What does make you think that a possible SK would kill tonight ?


1) Assuming that the SK isn't hopeless, he could put doubt on hopeless' claim.
2) it's what, 8/7 town to 1 scum/sk or 1 scum and sk
3) The longer the game goes on, the harder it is to conceal a guilty conscience/push your agenda as sk/mafia


@ debears

1)That's actually a good point. I don't think that hopeless could be SK even with another kill because he killed Crossfire and that would have been against a SK interest. But I've just realized that there was no way for a SK Hopeless to know for sure that Cross was scum when he decided to kill. By the way, would you yourself doubt Hopeless claim if we have 2 kills again tonight ? I remember that Hopeless was on your radar during D1.
2)That's also a good point. But it depends on the strategy you would choose as a SK. I don't know about it...
3)I disagree with this one because a possible SK would not know who the last scum is better than us. He would have no other thing to do than to scumhunt hard while not killing anyone and hope to survive until lylo. You don't have any guilty conscience if you didn't kill anyone, right ?


1) I would strongly look at Hopeless if another kill showed up. However, in my thought process, it would be fucking retarded for a SK to claim vig n1. Think about it. He would paint a target on his back for the mafia by being a confirmed town
2 and 3) Djo, it's a proven fact that, the longer the game goes on, the worse it is for the anti-town alignments. It gets so much harder to hide


@ debears

1) I agree with you on this one. Would you say that your D1 history with Hopeless is over then ?
2) and 3) You got me convinced that the SK is going to kill tonight and maybe have double-stacked his kill on marv yesterday, if he exists of course.

On a side note, you said that you wanted to auto-lynch S&B tomorrow but I'm not sure if you mentioned other scum reads lately. What do you think about BH post on Clarity ?


As I said, I've found clarity's posting weird lately, especially with his certainty on what z-Bo was going to flip. There was a reason z-Bo was up for lynch, there's only 1 scum/sk most likely. How was clarity so sure he was town? Why didn't he hard defend him more if he thought z-Bo was town?

That, and yes, Clarity's interactions with Hapa are weird.

Djo I've been getting townie vibes from u lately, so I'm thinking it's down to SnB and Clarity right now, with SnB in the lead


@ debears

I'm a little sad that you switched from S&B and BH to S&B and Clarity. Could you tell me what changed your mind ?
Are you dropping BH for real or just for the moment ?

I've been thinking about BH lately and I think that we can get him setup-wise at the end if he is a bad guy. I mean, SK or scum, he would have to go at LYLO and his fake claim could be proved because the rightful blues would have been revealed at this point (dead or claimed blues). What do you think ?


BH is starting to make cents. And his jk claim so early man....idk He's by not means town but I'm not willing to lynch him today
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 18 2012 19:35 GMT
#2799
On November 19 2012 02:44 Clarity_nl wrote:
In fact, I even pointed out that you calling zbo town because he had both cross and hapa on him was dumb, and you responded like this:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 00:18 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 00:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
The two people that were lynch candidates at the very end were Hapa and Zbo.
Hapa and crossfire voted zbo.
Conclusion, zbo is town?!?


Zbo had 8 votes on him with 5 minutes left. 2 of those votes were scum. Yeah theyd surely bus him d1



Did you see how hapa soft defended him at the end when he switched to me??
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 18 2012 19:39 GMT
#2800
On November 19 2012 04:35 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 02:44 Clarity_nl wrote:
In fact, I even pointed out that you calling zbo town because he had both cross and hapa on him was dumb, and you responded like this:
On November 17 2012 00:18 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 00:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
The two people that were lynch candidates at the very end were Hapa and Zbo.
Hapa and crossfire voted zbo.
Conclusion, zbo is town?!?


Zbo had 8 votes on him with 5 minutes left. 2 of those votes were scum. Yeah theyd surely bus him d1



Did you see how hapa soft defended him at the end when he switched to me??


Again. You are making points that have all been made. This one in particular that you just mentioned is terrible.
You had all this information when you called him town.

You went from a town read on zbo to MOST SCUMMY in an hour. How.
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