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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
Mafia shot Z-Boson + someone else who got saved? Vig shog mkfuba? | ||
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On September 13 2012 06:02 imallinson wrote: @Z-Boson I don't know if you've completely buggered off till after the day post but it would really help your claim if you actually told us why you are 100% sure toad is scum. This was after searching through toad's filter for ZB's magical evidence and coming up empty. | ||
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:17 Kreb wrote: Theres gotta be a Vig at work here? mkfuba.... Mafia shot Z-Boson + someone else who got saved? Vig shog mkfuba? Why do you think mkfuba was a vig shot? | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On September 13 2012 03:04 imallinson wrote: I was really suspicious of him night 1, he was one of my top scum reads due then. I kind of forgot about him after that because he started actually contributing a bit and the BKE case was much stronger. The way he dealt with the day 3 voting has made me suspicious of him again. Before the start of day 3 he says how much he dislikes the meta arguments + Show Spoiler + On September 10 2012 03:52 Gravan wrote: There is a lot of "in this game x player played like this" or, "y is a veteran, therefore the following is probable...". While I think these are fine as supporting arguments (since past tendencies/experience are relevant things to consider) I feel like all this talk of veterans and meta play is clouding and overtaking what people have actually said and how people have actually been playing. On September 12 2012 04:54 Gravan wrote: At this point, my viewpoint is as follows (on the big topics): Bill Murray is still suspicious, but, really, who the fuck knows? Z-Boson is highly suspicious. Forumite is highly suspicious, and very shifty. For somebody who is posting somewhat regularily, he hasn't done too much to defend himself other than point as many fingers as he can as quickly as he can - something that seems really scummy. I wish we had another day to talk about this, heh. ##Vote Forumite. On September 12 2012 04:56 Gravan wrote: To be a bit more clear: Bill Murray's posting is very difficult to read, and he claims to have had more knowledge than he really ought to have had. That said, he has apparently been playing mafia for a while so he could also have just made a good read. Z-Boson is far too defensive for my liking - it seems like he thinks that every post that isn't in agreement with him, or that pulls the discussion away from his posts, is targeted at him. ##Vote: Gravan | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:19 imallinson wrote: Why do you think mkfuba was a vig shot? Because hes been lurking. Why would a mafia wanna shoot him? He's no threat to the mafia as of now. Plus if mafia bought Z-Bosons claim they'd wanna kill him to also kill Toad (supposing Toad is town). | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:19 Shady Sands wrote: Niiice play from ZB there. Well done I need to think through stuff here but this was my first reaction too. And I also do think this makes Toad look more town. | ||
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:22 Kreb wrote: Because hes been lurking. Why would a mafia wanna shoot him? He's no threat to the mafia as of now. Plus if mafia bought Z-Bosons claim they'd wanna kill him to also kill Toad (supposing Toad is town). They did kill ZB and not toad. That makes it look like scum bought the claim and shot ZB aiming to get toad as well. | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:26 imallinson wrote: They did kill ZB and not toad. That makes it look like scum bought the claim and shot ZB aiming to get toad as well. Yes, thats what I thought too. But thats 1KP on Boson. Would the 2nd KP really be on mkfuba? I dont see that making sense.... | ||
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:28 Kreb wrote: Yes, thats what I thought too. But thats 1KP on Boson. Would the 2nd KP really be on mkfuba? I dont see that making sense.... Well it was either on mkfuba or someone else who got saved. I guess seeing as austin didn't seem to know much about the Ottox kill and I can't see that being scum kp we could have a second vig. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:28 Kreb wrote: Yes, thats what I thought too. But thats 1KP on Boson. Would the 2nd KP really be on mkfuba? I dont see that making sense.... I guess they changed the kills in the last second and had not much time to think about it. Maybe Z-Boson got doublestacked but that kind of defeats the purpose of shooting him to begin with. So yeah I think both got killed by mafia. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
-> First post on the 2nd page of Austin's filter: On September 08 2012 23:41 austinmcc wrote: This. GK as suicide bomber could still deliver a kill. And if you're scum and you lose mattchew D1, you're suiciding GK N1, you're 100% gonna use him as a shooter because he can't get caught delivering a kill, he's gonna be dead. We're basically narrowed down to BM24 being double stacked and BKE lying OR BM24 single shot, BKE watcher, and a medic save. Unless mafia shot Ottoxlol, which seems...unlikely. I'm pretty sure Grush wasn't the only one doing that. Toad did it at one point (or multiple points), everyone and their mother discussed vigi shots on half the town. Morning laziness means I'm not finding those quotes for you, but I'm almost certain there were a decent number of similar posts, but less concise. Feels like that's a claim for the shot. Until/unless someone goes about claiming a shot on either fuba or zboson, I'm assuming both NK's were mafia. Fuba could have been a bluehunt or just someone that they figured had no chance of being saved. I'm going to spend some time going through filters. I don't think I'll have time to build up a solid case during this cycle due to overtime at work today/tomrrow and excessive travel on Friday, but I should have my scum-reads posted by this time tomorrow at the latest. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
And why cannot people understand that I am FUCKING asleep when they discuss stuff just before the deadline? Seriously I stated it more than enough, why the hell does it always make me suspicious for "not being around".... Onto the nighthits, unless somebody claims a shot we cannot know for sure, I would just go with both hits being Mafia KP's. boson for the attempt to get toad as well and fuba to make sure their 2nd KP will probably go through as he was pretty unlikely to get protected. @grush: Toad is not confirmed. simple as that. Why would you want to sheep him without any conditions? @Shady: why ninjavote? you obviously got some time to write blogposts and to vote, why not drop by here and do stuff? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
@ Grush if you are going to state that Toad is confirmed town would you care to state the reason for that. For the benefit of people like myself who don't understand. Especially if you are going to sheep them I think you have some sort of responsibility to at least give some reasoning why. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
I'm pretty sure that was both mafia KP and I don't understand why anyone would assume that any vigs we have would still have bullets left in this lurker infested town. On September 12 2012 10:32 grush57 wrote: Either him or Toad is scum. Hey Grush, what is your current read of strongandbig & Toad? Gravan Seriously, this is the laziest post ever. In an explosive contrast between Toad and Z-boson, all he drops is a meaningless post. This is scum who is getting lazy because town has been lynching each other (everyone on Ottoxlol, BKEXE, lynch between Z-Boson & Forumite). On September 12 2012 04:54 Gravan wrote: Z-Boson is highly suspicious. On September 12 2012 04:56 Gravan wrote: To be a bit more clear: Z-Boson is far too defensive for my liking - it seems like he thinks that every post that isn't in agreement with him, or that pulls the discussion away from his posts, is targeted at him. On September 12 2012 06:50 Gravan wrote: I chose forumite over Z-Boson and Bill Murray because I am uncertain about them in general (as you chose to ignore). I also believe (also as you chose to ignore) that Forumite is scum because of the methods he is using as a 'defence', in addition to the reasons (such as flip-floppiness) presented in the strong cases posted here already. With someone who might be scum that you are uncertain of, wouldn't you want to pursue a better read of them? Why would you lurk more when that is clearly what town is suffering from? Furthermore, everyone should check out imallinson's case here (as well as his newer case). Not only is it clear that there is a contradiction that he says Toad needs to be looked at (calling him scum in all but name) but he backtracks and doesn't call him scum, but the fact is that this Toad he found worth inspection is totally lacking from his filter at all. I believe we have let him get by because of highly polarized lynches. Well not this time. ##Vote: Gravan | ||
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