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On September 12 2012 23:12 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 23:04 Toadesstern wrote:On September 12 2012 22:50 Kreb wrote:On September 12 2012 22:43 imallinson wrote:On September 12 2012 22:35 Kreb wrote:
Is there any chance we could get a comment from Toad before its time for night kills? If not it might be good idea for doctors/jailkeepers to move their protection around to people who seem to be more similiar to what hapa/austin was. I imagine theres been quite a few people protecting Toad so far, and that could be up for discussion.
Also note: Im not suspicious of him (well, not more than the paranioa he pretty much asked for us to have regarding him :p), but since he was took the biggest part in the mislynch, it would be nice to know what he has to say about it and what he wants the next move to be. Theres already been two people throwing suspicions his way (Forumite, Grush). Just because he led a mislynch doesn't make him less town. Town players are perfectly capable of being wrong. If we start suspecting everyone who pushes a mislynch we won't have anyone pushing lynches at all. Of course. But given the fact that he pretty much told us we should be paranoid as fuck about him (which I very much am) due to how supposedly good he was as mafia, I at least think we could demand a comment. As I said Im not suspicious, Im just paranoid. I trusted him for this lynch, that trust took a bit of a hit. Im wondering if I should renew the trust or not. hey am back, haven't read a thing yet and yeah I agree with what you "proposed" although it's for a different reason. Only got like half an hour time until I've got to leave again but I'll have time later on (like 4 hours prior to deadline) to post something. However reasoning for medics considering me: I don't think medics / Jailers should be protecting me as well. Right now there's pretty much no way mafia is going to shoot me because people are getting paranoid about me. Mafia are probably not going to shoot me because they want that paranoia. Yeah I could be saying that as mafia as well giving an explanation why I survived yet another night but it really works both ways. For all I care, if you're paranoid just track me if you think I'm mafia and frankly I'd actually say that already happened given my "most people are afraid about me" post either n1 or n2 anyways. Of course if you're a tracker it's up to you when you want to track me because if I was mafia I could just tell people to track me and be the guy who's not delivering a KP (assuming more than 2 mafia alive). So waiting until we've got rid of another mafia might be the way to go for trackers, but it's up to you, I've got nothing to hide :p Cool. On topic of tracking and watching, whats your opinion there? Personally I feel tracking and watching should be pretty well spent on lurkers/low profile players. If you were mafia theres no way you'd be carrying out the kills. A watcher believing you to be town might have a good reason to. Catching your killer would be great should you go down tonight. But other than that option, I'd say watch/track low profile players, the information could be very important later in the game when where down to 8-10 players.
Why? Because you're not low profile, and you don't want tracked?
As per watching, no, that is terrible. if there are any watchers, DEFINITELY watch people who will be targetted.
As per tracking, it can be beneficial depending on how the kill system works (whether or not they have to send a name in, or if it's random) because if they can protect good players, then I'd agree with you.
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Actually, that was pretty dumb what I said. Watch likely kill targets, track low profile dudes.
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when i say "protect good players" i mean say me and toad are scum together
if scum are 50% toad, then no... track good players
if scum are 100% sending in me (which they would, in this case, because you all are don't understand mafia) then I agree
but only on tracking, not on watching, in which case you are wrong
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On September 12 2012 23:15 Kreb wrote:
Actually, that was pretty dumb what I said. Watch likely kill targets, track low profile dudes.
glad I can show you the light
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On September 12 2012 23:15 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 23:12 Kreb wrote:On September 12 2012 23:04 Toadesstern wrote:On September 12 2012 22:50 Kreb wrote:On September 12 2012 22:43 imallinson wrote:On September 12 2012 22:35 Kreb wrote:
Is there any chance we could get a comment from Toad before its time for night kills? If not it might be good idea for doctors/jailkeepers to move their protection around to people who seem to be more similiar to what hapa/austin was. I imagine theres been quite a few people protecting Toad so far, and that could be up for discussion.
Also note: Im not suspicious of him (well, not more than the paranioa he pretty much asked for us to have regarding him :p), but since he was took the biggest part in the mislynch, it would be nice to know what he has to say about it and what he wants the next move to be. Theres already been two people throwing suspicions his way (Forumite, Grush). Just because he led a mislynch doesn't make him less town. Town players are perfectly capable of being wrong. If we start suspecting everyone who pushes a mislynch we won't have anyone pushing lynches at all. Of course. But given the fact that he pretty much told us we should be paranoid as fuck about him (which I very much am) due to how supposedly good he was as mafia, I at least think we could demand a comment. As I said Im not suspicious, Im just paranoid. I trusted him for this lynch, that trust took a bit of a hit. Im wondering if I should renew the trust or not. hey am back, haven't read a thing yet and yeah I agree with what you "proposed" although it's for a different reason. Only got like half an hour time until I've got to leave again but I'll have time later on (like 4 hours prior to deadline) to post something. However reasoning for medics considering me: I don't think medics / Jailers should be protecting me as well. Right now there's pretty much no way mafia is going to shoot me because people are getting paranoid about me. Mafia are probably not going to shoot me because they want that paranoia. Yeah I could be saying that as mafia as well giving an explanation why I survived yet another night but it really works both ways. For all I care, if you're paranoid just track me if you think I'm mafia and frankly I'd actually say that already happened given my "most people are afraid about me" post either n1 or n2 anyways. Of course if you're a tracker it's up to you when you want to track me because if I was mafia I could just tell people to track me and be the guy who's not delivering a KP (assuming more than 2 mafia alive). So waiting until we've got rid of another mafia might be the way to go for trackers, but it's up to you, I've got nothing to hide :p Cool. On topic of tracking and watching, whats your opinion there? Personally I feel tracking and watching should be pretty well spent on lurkers/low profile players. If you were mafia theres no way you'd be carrying out the kills. A watcher believing you to be town might have a good reason to. Catching your killer would be great should you go down tonight. But other than that option, I'd say watch/track low profile players, the information could be very important later in the game when where down to 8-10 players. Why? Because you're not low profile, and you don't want tracked? As per watching, no, that is terrible. if there are any watchers, DEFINITELY watch people who will be targetted. As per tracking, it can be beneficial depending on how the kill system works (whether or not they have to send a name in, or if it's random) because if they can protect good players, then I'd agree with you.
Yea that was a stupid post by me, agreed. As for myself, Im probably not low profile enough to be a likely good tracking target I wouldnt say, no. If you disagree, feel free to track me. Only watch me Im you think I might get killed.
Hmmm, I was sure mafia had to send in names on who killed who. Maybe I shouldnt have taken that for granted...
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On September 12 2012 23:10 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 22:33 DarthPunk wrote:On September 12 2012 22:19 Bill Murray wrote:
fuck you darthpunk
im clear town, as i would have killed austinmc n1 if i was mafia
PERIOD You do realise that argument proves nothing right? You are far from clear anything. I gave you and your rep the benefit of the doubt but it has become exceedingly clear that you are a liability if you are scum, and you are a liability if you are town. If you are truly town. Why did you did you not fight against the BKE and Forumite lynches that you so vehemently opposed rather than waiting till they were a done deal.? Oh wait. YOU VOTED FOR FORUMITE! Your word no longer means anything. You are impossible to read and your contributions are deliberately difficult to understand. I would rather have you vig'd than waste a lynch on you. Sorry if this is somehow offensive. But you have got to go. I did say I'd not like to lynch forumite BEFORE HIS WAGON STARTED way to read less than me you obtuse twit
So you SAY you didn't want to lynch him and then vote for him anyway. And then when the person you voted for flips green you attempt to gain some sort of town cred or something by telling everyone who is stupid enough to listen that you never wanted to vote for him in the first place?
The fact that you stated that you didn't want to lynch forumite is irrelevant. The fact that you may/may not have thought Austin was blue is Irrelevent. Your defense consists of distraction and obfuscation. It doesn't do anything to change my mind and just steels my resolve.
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On September 12 2012 23:19 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 23:15 Bill Murray wrote:On September 12 2012 23:12 Kreb wrote:On September 12 2012 23:04 Toadesstern wrote:On September 12 2012 22:50 Kreb wrote:On September 12 2012 22:43 imallinson wrote:On September 12 2012 22:35 Kreb wrote:
Is there any chance we could get a comment from Toad before its time for night kills? If not it might be good idea for doctors/jailkeepers to move their protection around to people who seem to be more similiar to what hapa/austin was. I imagine theres been quite a few people protecting Toad so far, and that could be up for discussion.
Also note: Im not suspicious of him (well, not more than the paranioa he pretty much asked for us to have regarding him :p), but since he was took the biggest part in the mislynch, it would be nice to know what he has to say about it and what he wants the next move to be. Theres already been two people throwing suspicions his way (Forumite, Grush). Just because he led a mislynch doesn't make him less town. Town players are perfectly capable of being wrong. If we start suspecting everyone who pushes a mislynch we won't have anyone pushing lynches at all. Of course. But given the fact that he pretty much told us we should be paranoid as fuck about him (which I very much am) due to how supposedly good he was as mafia, I at least think we could demand a comment. As I said Im not suspicious, Im just paranoid. I trusted him for this lynch, that trust took a bit of a hit. Im wondering if I should renew the trust or not. hey am back, haven't read a thing yet and yeah I agree with what you "proposed" although it's for a different reason. Only got like half an hour time until I've got to leave again but I'll have time later on (like 4 hours prior to deadline) to post something. However reasoning for medics considering me: I don't think medics / Jailers should be protecting me as well. Right now there's pretty much no way mafia is going to shoot me because people are getting paranoid about me. Mafia are probably not going to shoot me because they want that paranoia. Yeah I could be saying that as mafia as well giving an explanation why I survived yet another night but it really works both ways. For all I care, if you're paranoid just track me if you think I'm mafia and frankly I'd actually say that already happened given my "most people are afraid about me" post either n1 or n2 anyways. Of course if you're a tracker it's up to you when you want to track me because if I was mafia I could just tell people to track me and be the guy who's not delivering a KP (assuming more than 2 mafia alive). So waiting until we've got rid of another mafia might be the way to go for trackers, but it's up to you, I've got nothing to hide :p Cool. On topic of tracking and watching, whats your opinion there? Personally I feel tracking and watching should be pretty well spent on lurkers/low profile players. If you were mafia theres no way you'd be carrying out the kills. A watcher believing you to be town might have a good reason to. Catching your killer would be great should you go down tonight. But other than that option, I'd say watch/track low profile players, the information could be very important later in the game when where down to 8-10 players. Why? Because you're not low profile, and you don't want tracked? As per watching, no, that is terrible. if there are any watchers, DEFINITELY watch people who will be targetted. As per tracking, it can be beneficial depending on how the kill system works (whether or not they have to send a name in, or if it's random) because if they can protect good players, then I'd agree with you. Yea that was a stupid post by me, agreed. As for myself, Im probably not low profile enough to be a likely good tracking target I wouldnt say, no. If you disagree, feel free to track me. Only watch me Im you think I might get killed. Hmmm, I was sure mafia had to send in names on who killed who. Maybe I shouldnt have taken that for granted...
The mafia will designate a single member of it's faction to deliver each kill. No member of the mafia can deliver more than 1 KP every night. So a watcher would see the mafia member who actually delivers a kill and a tracker would see who a mafia member goes to when they kill..
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On September 12 2012 23:19 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 23:15 Bill Murray wrote:On September 12 2012 23:12 Kreb wrote:On September 12 2012 23:04 Toadesstern wrote:On September 12 2012 22:50 Kreb wrote:On September 12 2012 22:43 imallinson wrote:On September 12 2012 22:35 Kreb wrote:
Is there any chance we could get a comment from Toad before its time for night kills? If not it might be good idea for doctors/jailkeepers to move their protection around to people who seem to be more similiar to what hapa/austin was. I imagine theres been quite a few people protecting Toad so far, and that could be up for discussion.
Also note: Im not suspicious of him (well, not more than the paranioa he pretty much asked for us to have regarding him :p), but since he was took the biggest part in the mislynch, it would be nice to know what he has to say about it and what he wants the next move to be. Theres already been two people throwing suspicions his way (Forumite, Grush). Just because he led a mislynch doesn't make him less town. Town players are perfectly capable of being wrong. If we start suspecting everyone who pushes a mislynch we won't have anyone pushing lynches at all. Of course. But given the fact that he pretty much told us we should be paranoid as fuck about him (which I very much am) due to how supposedly good he was as mafia, I at least think we could demand a comment. As I said Im not suspicious, Im just paranoid. I trusted him for this lynch, that trust took a bit of a hit. Im wondering if I should renew the trust or not. hey am back, haven't read a thing yet and yeah I agree with what you "proposed" although it's for a different reason. Only got like half an hour time until I've got to leave again but I'll have time later on (like 4 hours prior to deadline) to post something. However reasoning for medics considering me: I don't think medics / Jailers should be protecting me as well. Right now there's pretty much no way mafia is going to shoot me because people are getting paranoid about me. Mafia are probably not going to shoot me because they want that paranoia. Yeah I could be saying that as mafia as well giving an explanation why I survived yet another night but it really works both ways. For all I care, if you're paranoid just track me if you think I'm mafia and frankly I'd actually say that already happened given my "most people are afraid about me" post either n1 or n2 anyways. Of course if you're a tracker it's up to you when you want to track me because if I was mafia I could just tell people to track me and be the guy who's not delivering a KP (assuming more than 2 mafia alive). So waiting until we've got rid of another mafia might be the way to go for trackers, but it's up to you, I've got nothing to hide :p Cool. On topic of tracking and watching, whats your opinion there? Personally I feel tracking and watching should be pretty well spent on lurkers/low profile players. If you were mafia theres no way you'd be carrying out the kills. A watcher believing you to be town might have a good reason to. Catching your killer would be great should you go down tonight. But other than that option, I'd say watch/track low profile players, the information could be very important later in the game when where down to 8-10 players. Why? Because you're not low profile, and you don't want tracked? As per watching, no, that is terrible. if there are any watchers, DEFINITELY watch people who will be targetted. As per tracking, it can be beneficial depending on how the kill system works (whether or not they have to send a name in, or if it's random) because if they can protect good players, then I'd agree with you. Yea that was a stupid post by me, agreed. As for myself, Im probably not low profile enough to be a likely good tracking target I wouldnt say, no. If you disagree, feel free to track me. Only watch me Im you think I might get killed. Hmmm, I was sure mafia had to send in names on who killed who. Maybe I shouldnt have taken that for granted...
HE JUST SAID "FEEL FREE TO TRACK ME" TO ME
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he's rolefishing
FoS Kreb
+ he called for a vig, but told me to track him... he's def. maf
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FIRST SAYS TO VIG ME
THEN TELLS ME TO TRACK HIM
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On September 12 2012 23:19 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 23:10 Bill Murray wrote:On September 12 2012 22:33 DarthPunk wrote:On September 12 2012 22:19 Bill Murray wrote:
fuck you darthpunk
im clear town, as i would have killed austinmc n1 if i was mafia
PERIOD You do realise that argument proves nothing right? You are far from clear anything. I gave you and your rep the benefit of the doubt but it has become exceedingly clear that you are a liability if you are scum, and you are a liability if you are town. If you are truly town. Why did you did you not fight against the BKE and Forumite lynches that you so vehemently opposed rather than waiting till they were a done deal.? Oh wait. YOU VOTED FOR FORUMITE! Your word no longer means anything. You are impossible to read and your contributions are deliberately difficult to understand. I would rather have you vig'd than waste a lynch on you. Sorry if this is somehow offensive. But you have got to go. I did say I'd not like to lynch forumite BEFORE HIS WAGON STARTED way to read less than me you obtuse twit So you SAY you didn't want to lynch him and then vote for him anyway. And then when the person you voted for flips green you attempt to gain some sort of town cred or something by telling everyone who is stupid enough to listen that you never wanted to vote for him in the first place? The fact that you stated that you didn't want to lynch forumite is irrelevant. The fact that you may/may not have thought Austin was blue is Irrelevent. Your defense consists of distraction and obfuscation. It doesn't do anything to change my mind and just steels my resolve.
I DON'T NEED TO GAIN TOWN CRED
IM ALREADY CONFIRMED TOWN VIA ME NOT CALLING MAFIA KILLS (WHICH I WOULD BE AS MAFIA)
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gotta go to wings and beer after work, sorry not gunna make deadline, I will be helpful day 4 if I don't die.
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On September 12 2012 23:04 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 22:50 Kreb wrote:On September 12 2012 22:43 imallinson wrote:On September 12 2012 22:35 Kreb wrote:
Is there any chance we could get a comment from Toad before its time for night kills? If not it might be good idea for doctors/jailkeepers to move their protection around to people who seem to be more similiar to what hapa/austin was. I imagine theres been quite a few people protecting Toad so far, and that could be up for discussion.
Also note: Im not suspicious of him (well, not more than the paranioa he pretty much asked for us to have regarding him :p), but since he was took the biggest part in the mislynch, it would be nice to know what he has to say about it and what he wants the next move to be. Theres already been two people throwing suspicions his way (Forumite, Grush). Just because he led a mislynch doesn't make him less town. Town players are perfectly capable of being wrong. If we start suspecting everyone who pushes a mislynch we won't have anyone pushing lynches at all. Of course. But given the fact that he pretty much told us we should be paranoid as fuck about him (which I very much am) due to how supposedly good he was as mafia, I at least think we could demand a comment. As I said Im not suspicious, Im just paranoid. I trusted him for this lynch, that trust took a bit of a hit. Im wondering if I should renew the trust or not. hey am back, haven't read a thing yet and yeah I agree with what you "proposed" although it's for a different reason. Only got like half an hour time until I've got to leave again but I'll have time later on (like 4 hours prior to deadline) to post something. However reasoning for medics considering me: I don't think medics / Jailers should be protecting me as well. Right now there's pretty much no way mafia is going to shoot me because people are getting paranoid about me. Mafia are probably not going to shoot me because they want that paranoia. Yeah I could be saying that as mafia as well giving an explanation why I survived yet another night but it really works both ways.For all I care, if you're paranoid just track me if you think I'm mafia and frankly I'd actually say that already happened given my "most people are afraid about me" post either n1 or n2 anyways. Of course if you're a tracker it's up to you when you want to track me because if I was mafia I could just tell people to track me and be the guy who's not delivering a KP (assuming more than 2 mafia alive). So waiting until we've got rid of another mafia might be the way to go for trackers, but it's up to you, I've got nothing to hide :p
That's bullshit.
If you were actually any real danger to mafia based on your scumhunting abilities you would certainly meet the same fate BC and DrH had, no matter the amount of "paranoia" you claim.
If you are indeed not mafia and you don't get shot, that's because either mafia doesn't feel threatened by you and it's good keeping you alive, or because you got shot n1 as an assassin (which I'll assume is not what happened).
You made one case on forumite in N2 and pretty much did nothing for the rest of day 3.
Mafia isn't scared of you, period.
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@Rewok-
You made a huge lists of null reads in D1.
Can you make one again? I'm sure right now they can't be all null.
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@imallinson
What do you make of Gravan?
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On September 13 2012 02:32 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 23:04 Toadesstern wrote:On September 12 2012 22:50 Kreb wrote:On September 12 2012 22:43 imallinson wrote:On September 12 2012 22:35 Kreb wrote:
Is there any chance we could get a comment from Toad before its time for night kills? If not it might be good idea for doctors/jailkeepers to move their protection around to people who seem to be more similiar to what hapa/austin was. I imagine theres been quite a few people protecting Toad so far, and that could be up for discussion.
Also note: Im not suspicious of him (well, not more than the paranioa he pretty much asked for us to have regarding him :p), but since he was took the biggest part in the mislynch, it would be nice to know what he has to say about it and what he wants the next move to be. Theres already been two people throwing suspicions his way (Forumite, Grush). Just because he led a mislynch doesn't make him less town. Town players are perfectly capable of being wrong. If we start suspecting everyone who pushes a mislynch we won't have anyone pushing lynches at all. Of course. But given the fact that he pretty much told us we should be paranoid as fuck about him (which I very much am) due to how supposedly good he was as mafia, I at least think we could demand a comment. As I said Im not suspicious, Im just paranoid. I trusted him for this lynch, that trust took a bit of a hit. Im wondering if I should renew the trust or not. hey am back, haven't read a thing yet and yeah I agree with what you "proposed" although it's for a different reason. Only got like half an hour time until I've got to leave again but I'll have time later on (like 4 hours prior to deadline) to post something. However reasoning for medics considering me: I don't think medics / Jailers should be protecting me as well. Right now there's pretty much no way mafia is going to shoot me because people are getting paranoid about me. Mafia are probably not going to shoot me because they want that paranoia. Yeah I could be saying that as mafia as well giving an explanation why I survived yet another night but it really works both ways.For all I care, if you're paranoid just track me if you think I'm mafia and frankly I'd actually say that already happened given my "most people are afraid about me" post either n1 or n2 anyways. Of course if you're a tracker it's up to you when you want to track me because if I was mafia I could just tell people to track me and be the guy who's not delivering a KP (assuming more than 2 mafia alive). So waiting until we've got rid of another mafia might be the way to go for trackers, but it's up to you, I've got nothing to hide :p That's bullshit. If you were actually any real danger to mafia based on your scumhunting abilities you would certainly meet the same fate BC and DrH had, no matter the amount of "paranoia" you claim. If you are indeed not mafia and you don't get shot, that's because either mafia doesn't feel threatened by you and it's good keeping you alive, or because you got shot n1 as an assassin (which I'll assume is not what happened). You made one case on forumite in N2 and pretty much did nothing for the rest of day 3. Mafia isn't scared of you, period.
paranoia on me is a reason not be afraid of me as mafia no matter how you see it though.
If mafia thinks they can get a mislynch on me they will leave me alive for that reason and also because they feel that they can divert the right lynches I'm going to push because of that paranoia.
That's the whole point.
I'm btw pretty sure I got shot n1 and protected, which apparently is the reason they didn't shoot me n2. I can't imagine someone else being shot AND being protected at the same time, that'd be way to convenient to make sense.
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On September 13 2012 02:43 Z-BosoN wrote:
@imallinson
What do you make of Gravan?
I was really suspicious of him night 1, he was one of my top scum reads due then. I kind of forgot about him after that because he started actually contributing a bit and the BKE case was much stronger. The way he dealt with the day 3 voting has made me suspicious of him again. Before the start of day 3 he says how much he dislikes the meta arguments + Show Spoiler +On September 10 2012 03:52 Gravan wrote:
There is a lot of "in this game x player played like this" or, "y is a veteran, therefore the following is probable...". While I think these are fine as supporting arguments (since past tendencies/experience are relevant things to consider) I feel like all this talk of veterans and meta play is clouding and overtaking what people have actually said and how people have actually been playing. On September 12 2012 04:54 Gravan wrote:
At this point, my viewpoint is as follows (on the big topics):
Bill Murray is still suspicious, but, really, who the fuck knows?
Z-Boson is highly suspicious.
Forumite is highly suspicious, and very shifty. For somebody who is posting somewhat regularily, he hasn't done too much to defend himself other than point as many fingers as he can as quickly as he can - something that seems really scummy.
I wish we had another day to talk about this, heh.
##Vote Forumite. On September 12 2012 04:56 Gravan wrote:
To be a bit more clear:
Bill Murray's posting is very difficult to read, and he claims to have had more knowledge than he really ought to have had. That said, he has apparently been playing mafia for a while so he could also have just made a good read.
Z-Boson is far too defensive for my liking - it seems like he thinks that every post that isn't in agreement with him, or that pulls the discussion away from his posts, is targeted at him.
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Guys, I will have to go soon, and won't be able to post through the night. However, I don't want to die tonight, because I'm starting to get some decent scum reads, so I'm actually gonna claim here.
I am a Mad Hatter
And I absolutely know Toad is scum. His goodbye post, claiming that he is townie in supposedly a "Good-bye" post. His disappearance in day 3. His switch from grush + gravan to me and BM out of nowhere. His reluctance to post in D3. His flimsiness on forumite. His bullshit straight above.
I'm not gonna bother making a whole case on this, because there is one thing that makes me go from 80% scum to 100%. I'm not gonna go into details, but if you want you can find it out for yourselves. I did a SHITTON of reading on N1 and N2, reading as carefully as I possibly could, turning on my hidden message finder mode.
It is insanely subtle, but fuck yea, I saw it. Anyways, hats off to you wrote it, but what I don't understand is why you didn't go after him, knowing what you knew. When both me and hapa were on his tail after that post, you could have very well given us support...
So yea, trust me when I say this, toad is absolutely 100% scum.
Anyways, I've always thought him scum ever since that N1 post, and my bomb has always been, and will be tonight as well, on him.
Thus, I am at no fear of death, because mafia wouldn't make this 1:1 trade, not in a million years.
Of course Toad is going to throw is bullshit at us once again, saying how I'm making this up, how that's impossible because he's townie, etc... but trust me when you say this - he's in fact bullshitting us, he's scum. If you want to confirm it for yourselves, just read the posts in N1/N2 super-carefully, and you'll see what I mean, especially in them nested quotes.
To the rest of you little lurking scum shitheads, I'll find you.
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