TL Mafia LVII - Page 105

On September 14 2012 21:43 Bill Murray wrote:

^he just megaslipped here
he's scum and bluefishing. he just said "blue" means "not town" LOL

On September 14 2012 21:40 Shady Sands wrote:

You're dodging my question. You said Gravan was town and blue. So:

Why do you think Gravan is blue? AKA Why do you think he is not town?

On September 14 2012 21:48 Shady Sands wrote:

How is this bluefishing? You said he was blue. I am asking you why you think he is blue.

also, great job picking up on a typo. Obviously "blue" should mean "not scum".

On September 14 2012 21:46 Toadesstern wrote:
I read it and he's right you are.
I doubt you'd be rolefishing so openly as mafia though.

Obviously a mafia would want to know whether the townie (assuming you are mafia and BM is town) is right or just found some bullshit to figure out if a kill is on *supposed to be blue* is needed or good. I'd say a mafia is going to read the filter or tell his buddies about it so that they read it (because people are lazy).
Townies sadly end up rolefishing quite a lot in games because they think that will somehow improve their reads on someone or they think that everything somehow makes sense once you figured that out.
So I'm not giving to much into you rolefishing although you are.

On September 14 2012 21:49 Bill Murray wrote:

how is this bluefishing? You answered: you were asking me why I think he is blue... LOL
a typo, you say? so you're admitting you slipped... good. Oh, wait, you're making EXCUSES.
FRY.

On September 14 2012 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:


Did you just say

You said blue... "gravan is blue?"
into

really...

Really?

Mattchew 2.0, except this time it is subconsciously a slip on his part, as opposed to Mattchew derping

at this point, from your alls perspective

A.) BM is trolling
1. that's what scum want you to believe
a. because it is a case from town
b. because it is a case on scum
2. I don't troll, so cross out A. on your list/self-meta
a. self meta is unreliable?
. it is a player to player basis
. my self meta is reliable
B.)BM caught/forced Shady Sands to slip
*please pick me!!*
C.) BM is bussing ShadySands
1. I don't bus
a. see 2. a.
2. If I was to bus, I would pick someone less active/with a bad thread image
a. Shady Sands actually has a good thread image
b. Shady Sands is active

However, logically, this should prove I am not trolling, and that I honestly feel he not only failed my reaction test, but then slipped in deciphering blue = not town to him, and in his mind he's trying to act town, so thus his logical flaw of "im mafia... im not town" versus his in thread of "i'm town, u guise" clashed into this atrocity of him saying blue=not town.

On September 14 2012 21:49 Shady Sands wrote:


Toad, how am I rolefishing? I've been pushing a Grav wagon for 20+ hours now, and BM said we shouldn't lynch Grav because he is blue. I went in and asked why he thought Grav was blue, because if BM doesn't give me any reasons why he thinks Grav is blue AKA not scum, then how can I persuade BM that Grav is scum?

On September 14 2012 21:55 Bill Murray wrote:
He could easily be scum at this point, and me still think you slipped. I'm leaning on him, actually, which is why I don't mind if he gets lynched at all (better if Rewok is going to be modkilled than a Rewok wagon) I just feel he has a role as opposed to being townie (see: mementoss's reaction)

Some lurkers are town and blue (like grav is) whereas Rewok is scum lurker (likely power role like scum vig/assassin)

I'm leaning on him, actually, which is why I don't mind if he gets lynched at all

He could easily be scum at this point, and me still think you slipped

On September 14 2012 21:56 Toadesstern wrote:


Well that kind of is the definition of bluefishing.
Let's assume BM really found something. You're trying to make him tell you what he found, so you can not only figure out whether or not he's right but also what kind of blue he is because a "blueslip" or whatever else made BM think he's blue is usually very specific.
Sure claiming someone else is borderline retarded as well if you really think so but as this seemed to be a joke I don't care enough to get into details on that one.

I don't really see the problem here to be honest, which is the reason I didn't post about it until asked:
Shady thinks Gravan is mafia
BM thinks Shady slipped and accidently told people his buddy Gravan is mafia and not town.

Seems to me like we should lynch Gravan and decide wether or not that typo was a slip or just some bullshit later on.

Whoooooaaa.

You said:



Now you say



and



What the heck? So why was your read originally town and blue on Grav and "could easily be scum at this point" when Grav hasn't made a single post in the interim?

On September 14 2012 22:06 Toadesstern wrote:
If someone says he thinks someone else is blue people should ignore him because he's either playing borderline anti-town himself, or he's mafia, or he's trolling for WHATEVER reason.

Curiosity is a bitch and gets in peoples way no matter of alignment though

On September 14 2012 22:25 Toadesstern wrote:
just a random mention: I'm not going to be around at deadline today and I'm going to miss quite some time as I'm going to leave 6 hours prior to deadline and won't be back in time.

So if there's someone having a fancy plan spill it out, I don't have all day and will keep my vote on Gravan unless something happens.

On September 14 2012 22:46 Bill Murray wrote:
It is a reaction test. Gravan is possibly blue, and is so in 33% of the scenarios I can think of
However, you are 100% scum, Shady Sands