EPTBut whatever, I'm not in the business of trying to convince scum that they're scum. Feel free to continue to "extend" more cases on your way to the gallows.
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
But whatever, I'm not in the business of trying to convince scum that they're scum. Feel free to continue to "extend" more cases on your way to the gallows. | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
See if you actually meant the things you write you would have brought this up: On August 21 2012 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote: That's not terrible reasoning at all BC. Tell me what you think about Bumatlarge, BC...specifically his insistence that what I'm doing right now is anti-town, yet his reluctance to vote me. Where you actually agree with BC on his points why he thinks I'm scum. But you didn't. Because deep down you didn't agree with BC because you knew he was wrong and thus you forgot you found me scummy (and why). My vote on you stands. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
In spite of...you know...agreeing with BC. Your logic is unbelievable. | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
And you stopped defending yourself by now. All you do now are dismissing things you don't like. I'll list up MY reasons for you being scum:
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
My vote on him was calculated. Notice that I voted him immediately after he posted. This was 100% intentional by me. Guess what happened? He disappeared right afterward. If he, at the very least, had responded or said something following the flurry of votes on him, I might have been inclined to think he was a bad townie getting wagoned (and thus his flailing would've caused the subsequent votes.) However, he completely disappeared, which indicates to me that he's trying to lose heat. In addition, we have other people who come into the thread (e.g. VE) trying to derail from allinson. Obviously this in itself isn't a huge tell on VE unless allinson actually flips, but it's interesting because VE so far has done nothing else of significance. His change of vote to Drazerk seems to be calculated toward lowering his own level of suspicion. I'm fine with killing either VE or allinson today. I would rather kill allinson though, that's my stronger read of the two. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
As it stands I'm going to leave my vote on VE though, since I think he's probably a stronger lynch. New mafia are easier to bus imo (psychologically), so votes on allinson don't tell us as much as I would think VE would. More importantly, having a scum VE alive is more dangerous than having a scum allinson alive. I feel about equal on their chances of flipping scum - this VE versus dirkzor poopfeast isn't doing much to make me feel town about either of them. VE - could you give us a bullet-point-list of some sort on why you think dirkzor is scum? Dirkzor - I'd really like you to comment on a case that isn't about you. What about Drazerk or imallinson? Do you think either of them is scum? | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
I think imallinson is scum but the case so far only have 2 weak points. Him being meek and apologetic (and he weren't in earlier games) and him not posting when voted upon. Both can be explained with other things then him being scum. The best point is the first with the extentions WBG made that VE tried to derail the allinson case - but that is only relevant when we know the allignment of either of them. I wouldn't mind seeing him dead but I'd rather see VE dead. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Dirkzor is scum because he keeps sheeping you SnB, while trying to pass that off as contribution. He hasn't added anything of substance to the game, and while Bugs says that I've done nothing of significance, I'd argue that my attempt at policy-lynching grush counts as a significant thread action. I agree with the case on Drazerk now that you've deWIFOM'd it - when I read it through the first time, it looked like I was reading a Pokemon card-creator's journal...it didn't look like a case at all. But I get what you were saying now and I agree that he looks scummy for it. | ||
imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On August 21 2012 19:21 wherebugsgo wrote: you know what stands out about allin? My vote on him was calculated. Notice that I voted him immediately after he posted. This was 100% intentional by me. Guess what happened? He disappeared right afterward. If he, at the very least, had responded or said something following the flurry of votes on him, I might have been inclined to think he was a bad townie getting wagoned (and thus his flailing would've caused the subsequent votes.) However, he completely disappeared, which indicates to me that he's trying to lose heat. In addition, we have other people who come into the thread (e.g. VE) trying to derail from allinson. Obviously this in itself isn't a huge tell on VE unless allinson actually flips, but it's interesting because VE so far has done nothing else of significance. His change of vote to Drazerk seems to be calculated toward lowering his own level of suspicion. I'm fine with killing either VE or allinson today. I would rather kill allinson though, that's my stronger read of the two. I disappeared because it was 2 am and I thought I should at least get some sleep. Your case against me is basically that I don't sound sure of my self and that that I haven't contributed anything yet. About the unsureness that's just how I am, I can't really say much more about it. Also ,Dirk + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2012 16:26 Dirkzor wrote: While this case at face value makes sense I figured I'd dig deeper. imallinson is pretty new here so I figured he could just be intimidated by the amount of veterans in the game and thus explaining his meek attitude. So i skimmed his newbie game and the mad men game. In neither of those does he appear meek or insecure about his thoughts. So more power to this case due to that. I hadn't contributed anything to scum hunting yet because I don't have a good read on anyone. A lot of players posting is very erratic and kind of spammy but that's settled down now. As for any reads I have now I think strongandbig is the most likely candidate for scum. His case against Draz + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2012 16:50 strongandbig wrote: Boiled down to its most basic level, my case is as follows:
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Just on observation. | ||
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On August 21 2012 20:54 strongandbig wrote: lol k. Or you could, you know, actually say something to dissuade me from this. But "lol k" is definitely making me think twice about my accusation. On August 21 2012 20:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh, also this slipped my mind...but Dirkzor in "researching meta" on allin referenced reading his performances in his latest mini and Mad Men to get an idea of his play. I'm not sure which Newbie Mini he's talking about because he doesn't say, and allinson wasn't even IN Mad Men, so really I'm not even sure why he even mentioned the allin case to begin with. He lied about doing meta research on it, which leads me to believe that he lied about even reading the case...the fact that he never voted for allin and opted to instead vote for me supports this. Just on observation. I'm trying to figure out whether he is just being lazy or he is scum. I can't imagine scum being stupid enough to just make some shit up that is that easy to call out, but I also can't think of a reason town would either. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On August 21 2012 21:10 imallinson wrote: Or you could, you know, actually say something to dissuade me from this. But "lol k" is definitely making me think twice about my accusation. but it's just so terrible! Your 'case' on me is that you don't like my cases. So first off, your characterization of my cases is wrong, but that aside, why does making cases you don't like mean I'm scum? | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On August 21 2012 11:22 Mementoss wrote: Ninja voting like a boss. Reminds me of Bill Murray in LIII. The fact that this post was buried and no one cares about it bothers me. It's been 12 hours since the vote almost with no word about why. No word from him at all. I will be back in a few hours to read up on new discussion and answer hiro. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On August 20 2012 08:28 Zephirdd wrote: How about the "lynch whoever throws KP around randomly"? Also I am a medic. Go figure. There are a couple of things he could be doing here: he's either a medic claiming in the worst first post in TL town history, he's a townie who is NOT a medic and is attempting to draw roleblocks/NKs, or he's scum attempting something really profoundly stupid. From a strategic viability standpoint, I certainly HOPE it's the second one, but from a realistic standpoint and given everything else he's done in the thread (read: nothing) I'm inclined to believe that he's actually scum. He's almost certainly not a town medic, and if he is I hope I'm never town with him again. On August 20 2012 13:04 Zephirdd wrote: I like the idea of lynching grush because he's been somewhat terrible. But if you think about it the same could be applied to Kenpachi. Or Drazerk. Yet them being terrible always netted some scum in games. I'm not that much of a fan of policy lynching either... I mean, it worked quite well for VE, but it's always bad for the town on the game when you do it and he was just playing badly. Besides, he claimed starsenses. That means he is town right? This is his next post with "content". In this post he literally sas "I like the idea of policy lynching grush, but I'm not that much of a fan of policy lynching". Literally. It's the very soul of wishy-washy scum posting. On August 20 2012 22:06 Zephirdd wrote: Hey I'm rereading! This is PTP. I got med. who knows what comes next. np I'm not VE; I am much cuter. Let me see if I got this right... you noticed the pokealliance is breadcrumbing the role PM and then you decide that it's likely that they are scum and therefore should be lynched...? I know you are banned, but I want to mention how stupid this is. Being so active this early IS a scum trait. It's the time of the day where there is the lowest amount of information and you can always justify whatever happened during this phase as "trolling" or "baiting". I've done that as scum before. Throughout what I've been reading, kitaman looks incredibly annoyed about the whole "coloring town blue" thing. I mean, it's in the OP as people mentioned, and being a PTP every town is blue. Anybody else thinks he got annoyed because he thought that would confirm them as town, and therefore make life a hell for scum? + Show Spoiler [useless stuff for the game] + On August 20 2012 09:34 Kurumi wrote: Shut up you wannabe Zapdos , you are nothing but a common pidgeon with eggs Zephir with double d's, pfffff I now know the meaning of Zephyr. I never knew. I thought Zephirdd was a cool name. TT I've played with drazerk before. I understand what he means. Someone has to shoot him; not early because he is a cool scum bite, but late when we don't want him around lylo. That's how I see it. I'd say grush is pretty much the same. I don't remember Kenpachi ever flipping scum so I don't really care, but he always somehow dies sooner or later for some odd mechanical game-specific reason lol What does grush being banned has to do with anything? If you think he is scum you make a case against him. And it's 42. Finally. You were And Toad, what did that do? Did it do anything at all? >_> Oh Oh Oh is it like I suggested pregame? you use a random ability from any player in the game??? *___* The parts I bolded are Zephirdd literally just shoveling shit hoping something sticks. I can get behind a Zephirdd lynch in addition to a Drazerk/Dirkzor lynch. Now, to decide which scummy bastard gets my vote. ##Unvote | ||
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On August 21 2012 21:16 strongandbig wrote: but it's just so terrible! Your 'case' on me is that you don't like my cases. So first off, your characterization of my cases is wrong, but that aside, why does making cases you don't like mean I'm scum? Because I think you are going at people who could be very dangerous for scum later on but easy enough to push a mislynch onto. I think if you actually thought Draz and VE are scum you would actually havea good reason for doing so and I haven't seen one yet. I'll concede that it isn't a strong case but so far I haven't seen a strong case against anyone. | ||
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
SaB what do you think of Dirk's "meta research" about me that is obviously wrong? | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
It's terrible play as scum or town though. Like I said above, I don't really see anything to make me think dirkzor is town but he doesn't seem as scummy to me as VE's whole "policy lynch grush" thing or Drazerk's "let's find the KP roles" thing. | ||
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