EPTPTP3 - Pikachu's Revenge - Page 29
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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POWER OVERWHELMING ^^ | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
because you continue to push the policy lynch even though grush is banned isn't here to show whether he is willing to change his behavior, leading me to conclude the "lynch" is more important to you than the "policy" because you mischaracterized my drazerk case in a pretty weird way that indicated you hadn't really read it, then backpedaled when called out on it because of the other avoiding-commitment and backpedaling-ish and avoiding-scumhunting posts you made while you were pushing the grush lynch (ie, the one where you're surprised that no one was insta-voting you because of the policy lynch but then you still support the policy lynch despite expecting people to insta-vote you for it; the one where you say you'll consider other people's cases but only if your grush policy lynch doesn't work out) | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
(if a vig shot is available then using that on a policy question is better for town than using the lynch, because you can't really do behavioral analysis on the votes on a policy lynch) | ||
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strongandbig
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imallinson
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On August 21 2012 22:14 strongandbig wrote: Oh and because you were so insistent on it being a policy lynch and not willing to consider a policy vig shot, despite doubtless having multiple town vigs in this game. (if a vig shot is available then using that on a policy question is better for town than using the lynch, because you can't really do behavioral analysis on the votes on a policy lynch) A vig shot probably would be a much better option with regards to Grush. I guess the complication would be with pokemon types causing it not to be successful. | ||
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
Either way, my strongest scum read as of this moment is allinson. What bugs me most about him is this. + Show Spoiler + One thing I noticed, between the spam, is a hell of a lot of role discussion, talk about kp, etc. I think everyone has missed a very important point in all this. These are pokemon we are dealing with and last I checked most of them have more than one power. Because this is PTP it wouldn't surprise me if most people did have more than one power. Add to that the fact that all the role talk has been about standard mafia roles it seems like no one is really thinking outside the box on the roles. The real question is do they think it's the case a not talking about it for strategic reasons. I'm not a fan of misdirection in mafia from a town perspective because it normally only serves to make scum hunting harder. It doesn't really, I'm just pointing out a big missing piece in all the role talk so far. Honestly I don't think role talk day 1 will be helpful in this set up. This probably has been mentioned before in one of the earlier cases, but, he admits here that role talk is not useful. Ok. But why, would any townie with that opinion, post something like that (his first post)? At the time of that first post, the thread wasn't even talking about any sort of role speculation, why would he post this if he were town? This is enough for me to want to lynch him. ##vote: imallinson Besides that, I am also pretty suspicious of VE, though that was just from skimming the thread. Give me a while to read through his filter, I might consider lynching him over imallinson. | ||
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
Are we allowed to talk about the role we created? I dont see anything in the OP about it but I seem to remember from reading previous PTPs this wasnt allowed till a certain day? The role I made is one which might be a little dangerous for town if its in scum hands. Will elaborate more if its allowed. | ||
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Next time I have an unconventional problem I'll come up with a more conventional means of handling it. Lesson learned. You guys enjoy the rest of the game! For the record, I didn't do my pokemon justice - I wasn't feeling very creative when I made it and was depending on the rest of you guys to come up with the good stuff. Judging from my role, you didn't disappoint. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On August 21 2012 17:39 Dirkzor wrote: Hey VE!? Why all of a sudden do you think people should vote me? You have made no mention of this earlier... Perfect time to take pressure off of yourself by adding another subject for scrutiny. A subject with already some focus from BC. If you find me scummy post why! Don't throw a ball up in the air for some townie to catch and throw. Thats what scummy people do... Same thing can be said about your Drazerk turn around. S&B added nothing new to the case but now its a good case whereas before is was bad? Haha. Its the biggest cop-out ever. And I don't want to wait for you to show that you want to find scum. I want you to try and find scum now. And you haven't. Not just a little? ##Vote VE I like you Dirkzor. You make my job easy. You random hop on wagons, make the smallest posts in the world of "original content" to go into large say nothing posts, and you have honestly some of the worst reasons in the world for posting on people. You have also lied, not once but twice. The first I am willing to forgive as you were most likely aiming a test on a player second however was pure and unadulterated lie. Given that a town player would be doing his best to ensure every case he made was of actual information not pure lies, I am going out on a limb here to say you were expecting to think that it would be hidden well in your giant post of uselessness and not called out. Regardless you have clearly not been playing in the interests in the town and aside from the material on you the material on imallinson is by far the strongest and you discount it to push ve to appear less sheepy as you already do. ##vote dirkzor Heading to work, be back before deadline I hope. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On August 21 2012 21:47 VisceraEyes wrote: I can kill Zephirdd too, honestly. His filter consists mostly of setup speculation, but this doesn't bother me as his love of the Pokemans is well documented. What bothers me is this. There are a couple of things he could be doing here: he's either a medic claiming in the worst first post in TL town history, he's a townie who is NOT a medic and is attempting to draw roleblocks/NKs, or he's scum attempting something really profoundly stupid. From a strategic viability standpoint, I certainly HOPE it's the second one, but from a realistic standpoint and given everything else he's done in the thread (read: nothing) I'm inclined to believe that he's actually scum. He's almost certainly not a town medic, and if he is I hope I'm never town with him again. This is his next post with "content". In this post he literally sas "I like the idea of policy lynching grush, but I'm not that much of a fan of policy lynching". Literally. It's the very soul of wishy-washy scum posting. The parts I bolded are Zephirdd literally just shoveling shit hoping something sticks. I can get behind a Zephirdd lynch in addition to a Drazerk/Dirkzor lynch. Now, to decide which scummy bastard gets my vote. ##Unvote reposting due to the speed at which it was buried. | ||
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zelblade
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
On August 21 2012 22:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I like you Dirkzor. You make my job easy. You random hop on wagons, make the smallest posts in the world of "original content" to go into large say nothing posts, and you have honestly some of the worst reasons in the world for posting on people. You have also lied, not once but twice. The first I am willing to forgive as you were most likely aiming a test on a player second however was pure and unadulterated lie. Given that a town player would be doing his best to ensure every case he made was of actual information not pure lies, I am going out on a limb here to say you were expecting to think that it would be hidden well in your giant post of uselessness and not called out. Regardless you have clearly not been playing in the interests in the town and aside from the material on you the material on imallinson is by far the strongest and you discount it to push ve to appear less sheepy as you already do. ##vote dirkzor Heading to work, be back before deadline I hope. What other lie have I made than the imallinson thingy? I fail to see it and you fail to say what? Some of your statements BC are taken out of the air. I randomly hop on wagon_s_? I have voted VE. Thats 1 vote. You might call it a wagon but its still only 1. Town would make sure that all stuff was facts. I agree... but no scum would make a huge ass of himself with calling out someones meta in games they haven't even played... How do I expect that not to be figured out when the playing I'm talking about is still alive? It was a mistake and I have no clue how it happened. What posts of mine are inflated to appear bigger? I count maybe one. And thats only because of the quotes. My little discussion with VE seems to have generated some information. The worst thing is that I don't find you scummy at all BC. You should just look elsewhere. | ||
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
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imallinson
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On August 21 2012 23:19 Dirkzor wrote: After looking through it appears it was hopeless1der... I disagree with me hoping on your wagon. I actually decided not to vote you because 5 others had already voted 2 of which had done so with no reason at all. I just voices my opinion about the case and my (wrong) findings. Why would the number of people voting him already factor into why you would vote him or not? Only scum worry about shit like that - town either find someone suspicious enough to vote or they don't, and you seemed plenty enough suspicious, especially considering your "findings" after doing meta research. Obviously your "findings" were wrong because you weren't even looking at the right player, but you thought it was right at the time...so why no vote? You can't even use the excuse of "Oh I was saving it for you" because you mentioned me in that post as well and didn't vote for me. | ||
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