PTP3 - Pikachu's Revenge - Page 114

On September 10 2012 01:30 grush57 wrote:
Though Zeph supported JingleHell's blindness so gj zeph.

On August 25 2012 06:52 grush57 wrote:
darnit idk how I entered but
when commenting on VE's play you said he wanted to play differenty and give him the benefit brohan.
Which is me questioning VE being town right now.
But all the vets aren't trying, the one who did was BC and he died, and Wiggles is playing the EXACT same way he did as scum before. When I played with WBG before and he was town he was very active, and Kenpachi could be town or scum because he is Kenpachi.

On September 10 2012 03:28 grush57 wrote:
Let's talk about your ONLY read the whole game for 6 cycles, me?

On September 10 2012 07:08 austinmcc wrote:
Jingle, I think you've got the wrong end of this one.

Go read Grush's filter again. There's trolling in there. But there are a decent number of reads, reasons, some thoughts just dropped into the thread, that really feel towny and were helpful.

With you, it felt like the moment you got accused you just shut down. You'd either OMGUS or refuse to participate. All that electrocution stuff, where we had an electric flavor kill and you were one of two electric pokemon, so had to be a POSSIBILITY. But at the slightest hint that you might have done it, you shut done, left thread, and decided not to play. Doing that was more anti-town than anything Grush did this game, imo.

On August 29 2012 03:24 JingleHell wrote:
I wasn't finding him scummy, until he decided to make this absurd attack on me that makes less sense than anything posted since the last time Grush or Misder talked.

It doesn't match the rest of his play this game particularly, which makes me think it's got an ulterior motive. Hence why I'm going to put together a case.

On August 29 2012 03:33 JingleHell wrote:
Oh look, twisting my words again. Right now, people I'm seeing as potentially scummy are people who are saying shit that doesn't make any sense from any rational town motive. In your case, twisting my words, in Memen's case, it's his sudden backtrack on the townieness of my claim.

(Don't forget at the end of the day, he was strongly supporting how townie my claim was. Now he's seeing tons of scum motive in my keeping it quiet for the sake of being able to use it the same way as needed.)

On September 10 2012 08:10 austinmcc wrote:
If you decide someone "making an effort" = scum for ANYONE, then you've just written that person off entirely. Either they do nothing (and are scummy for it most likely) or they're scum for helping. Actually holding that notion means than in the majority of games, when they're town, you're going to read them wrong. Plus, you come off like a giant asshole in posting about reading someone because of that.

You carried that idea the ENTIRE game, even after he flipped, saying he should have warned the thread he'd be playing "against meta." That's both ridiculous AND if you're so concerned about meta, then you know that the time he was scum he tried to play the same as he does when town.

And I'm not talking about Drazerk when I talk about you OMGUSing. Here's you on Mementoss


Here's you finding Dirk scummy after he gets into it with you:

You never decided to call me outright scum, but kept playing around with it. Heck, I don't see you OMGUS drazerk at any point.

On September 10 2012 08:40 marvellosity wrote:
Jingle, take it as a valid criticism of your play. You always go nuts when someone wafts suspicion in your direction, and it's almost never productive.

On September 10 2012 09:01 JingleHell wrote:


It'd be a better criticism of my play if he wasn't basing it off of me responding to half baked accusations.

On September 10 2012 09:23 austinmcc wrote:
The doneness of the accusations doesn't matter at all. There are going to be half- and otherwise-baked accusations thrown around all game long. At everyone.

Like...I'm not even saying that you responded scummily. It's more that if your response is to OMGUS any accusation, then I'm going to discount your reads. If your response is to shut down and refuse to do anything but vote one guy because he's being productive, I'm going to discount your reads. It wouldn't even matter if you had nailed every scum in the game because they all happened to call you out, you had no thread presence, no pull, and I wasn't going to vote for your targets, and am guessing others wouldn't either.