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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 09 2012 14:33 GMT
#2261
silliest moment was Hopeless' lynch, me and BC were beside ourselves at the reasoning

also anyone thinking grush was scum should have a serious look at themselves. Zephirdd totally outed himself as scum with his pantomime reaction to the grush lynch
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 09 2012 16:28 GMT
#2262
I FUCKIGN KNEW IT.
NO ONE BELIEVED
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 09 2012 16:28 GMT
#2263
T_T
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 09 2012 16:28 GMT
#2264
Called out Zeph for like 3 cycles ina row.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 09 2012 16:30 GMT
#2265
Though Zeph supported JingleHell's blindness so gj zeph.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 09 2012 16:46 GMT
#2266
I just can't win a game lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 09 2012 17:21 GMT
#2267
On September 10 2012 01:30 grush57 wrote:
Though Zeph supported JingleHell's blindness so gj zeph.


Shall we go back to one of the only semi-productive conversations you were involved in this game, where we talked about you being far too intentionally useless as a rule to listen to?

Pretty sure you agreed with such at one point.

I may have played a terrible game, but if someone (you) is either going to be a trolly town, or scum, people wanting to policy your ass, or lynch you if you start saying something besides "STARSENSES" is kind of a plausible outcome.

Hell, given the way you play, I'd imagine you'd be thrilled to have contributed to a town loss.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 09 2012 17:24 GMT
#2268
On August 25 2012 06:52 grush57 wrote:
darnit idk how I entered but
when commenting on VE's play you said he wanted to play differenty and give him the benefit brohan.
Which is me questioning VE being town right now.
But all the vets aren't trying, the one who did was BC and he died, and Wiggles is playing the EXACT same way he did as scum before. When I played with WBG before and he was town he was very active, and Kenpachi could be town or scum because he is Kenpachi.


Here, as a reference. That's you implying you wanted to play differently. Shall we talk about the rest of your reads? Like say, me, hopeless...
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 09 2012 18:28 GMT
#2269
Let's talk about your ONLY read the whole game for 6 cycles, me?
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 09 2012 20:25 GMT
#2270
On September 10 2012 03:28 grush57 wrote:
Let's talk about your ONLY read the whole game for 6 cycles, me?


Do I need to link you to a definition for hyperbole, or would you rather I just assume you're admitting to not reading the thread before you troll?

Just because the majority of my reads are based on trying to spot a townie motive for behavior, and thus seem reactive, doesn't mean I don't have any.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 09 2012 22:08 GMT
#2271
Jingle, I think you've got the wrong end of this one.

Go read Grush's filter again. There's trolling in there. But there are a decent number of reads, reasons, some thoughts just dropped into the thread, that really feel towny and were helpful.

With you, it felt like the moment you got accused you just shut down. You'd either OMGUS or refuse to participate. All that electrocution stuff, where we had an electric flavor kill and you were one of two electric pokemon, so had to be a POSSIBILITY. But at the slightest hint that you might have done it, you shut done, left thread, and decided not to play. Doing that was more anti-town than anything Grush did this game, imo.
Fe fi fo fum.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 09 2012 22:14 GMT
#2272
On September 10 2012 07:08 austinmcc wrote:
Jingle, I think you've got the wrong end of this one.

Go read Grush's filter again. There's trolling in there. But there are a decent number of reads, reasons, some thoughts just dropped into the thread, that really feel towny and were helpful.

With you, it felt like the moment you got accused you just shut down. You'd either OMGUS or refuse to participate. All that electrocution stuff, where we had an electric flavor kill and you were one of two electric pokemon, so had to be a POSSIBILITY. But at the slightest hint that you might have done it, you shut done, left thread, and decided not to play. Doing that was more anti-town than anything Grush did this game, imo.


Check who was making that accusation. Oh right, Drazerk, the scum. Is it any more of an OMGUS when I do it than all the times it got done to me?

Grush "making an effort" was specifically why I thought he was scum. Doing that without saying before the game "Hey guys, sorry I'm usually completely useless" is going to raise a red flag to me.

If people want to assume I'm scum based on trying to second-guess the setup, rather than my motives for what I do, and things I say, I can't help them, that's just absurd. And yeah, people trying to use screwy logic like that (Drazerk, who was scum)... is that an OMGUS? No. Oh wait, I tried to avoid that, and he turned out to be scum.

I've already admitted I didn't do particularly well, but acting like my play was somehow singularly terrible just makes me want to laugh.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 09 2012 23:10 GMT
#2273
If you decide someone "making an effort" = scum for ANYONE, then you've just written that person off entirely. Either they do nothing (and are scummy for it most likely) or they're scum for helping. Actually holding that notion means than in the majority of games, when they're town, you're going to read them wrong. Plus, you come off like a giant asshole in posting about reading someone because of that.

You carried that idea the ENTIRE game, even after he flipped, saying he should have warned the thread he'd be playing "against meta." That's both ridiculous AND if you're so concerned about meta, then you know that the time he was scum he tried to play the same as he does when town.

And I'm not talking about Drazerk when I talk about you OMGUSing. Here's you on Mementoss
On August 29 2012 03:24 JingleHell wrote:
I wasn't finding him scummy, until he decided to make this absurd attack on me that makes less sense than anything posted since the last time Grush or Misder talked.

It doesn't match the rest of his play this game particularly, which makes me think it's got an ulterior motive. Hence why I'm going to put together a case.


Here's you finding Dirk scummy after he gets into it with you:
On August 29 2012 03:33 JingleHell wrote:
Oh look, twisting my words again. Right now, people I'm seeing as potentially scummy are people who are saying shit that doesn't make any sense from any rational town motive. In your case, twisting my words, in Memen's case, it's his sudden backtrack on the townieness of my claim.

(Don't forget at the end of the day, he was strongly supporting how townie my claim was. Now he's seeing tons of scum motive in my keeping it quiet for the sake of being able to use it the same way as needed.)


You never decided to call me outright scum, but kept playing around with it. Heck, I don't see you OMGUS drazerk at any point.



Fe fi fo fum.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 09 2012 23:34 GMT
#2274
On September 10 2012 08:10 austinmcc wrote:
If you decide someone "making an effort" = scum for ANYONE, then you've just written that person off entirely. Either they do nothing (and are scummy for it most likely) or they're scum for helping. Actually holding that notion means than in the majority of games, when they're town, you're going to read them wrong. Plus, you come off like a giant asshole in posting about reading someone because of that.

You carried that idea the ENTIRE game, even after he flipped, saying he should have warned the thread he'd be playing "against meta." That's both ridiculous AND if you're so concerned about meta, then you know that the time he was scum he tried to play the same as he does when town.

And I'm not talking about Drazerk when I talk about you OMGUSing. Here's you on Mementoss
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On August 29 2012 03:24 JingleHell wrote:
I wasn't finding him scummy, until he decided to make this absurd attack on me that makes less sense than anything posted since the last time Grush or Misder talked.

It doesn't match the rest of his play this game particularly, which makes me think it's got an ulterior motive. Hence why I'm going to put together a case.


Here's you finding Dirk scummy after he gets into it with you:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 03:33 JingleHell wrote:
Oh look, twisting my words again. Right now, people I'm seeing as potentially scummy are people who are saying shit that doesn't make any sense from any rational town motive. In your case, twisting my words, in Memen's case, it's his sudden backtrack on the townieness of my claim.

(Don't forget at the end of the day, he was strongly supporting how townie my claim was. Now he's seeing tons of scum motive in my keeping it quiet for the sake of being able to use it the same way as needed.)


You never decided to call me outright scum, but kept playing around with it. Heck, I don't see you OMGUS drazerk at any point.





I didn't. Shall we go back to what people were saying made me so scummy, before deciding it was an OMGUS?

The majority of the times I was accused of an OMGUS, it was actually because someone said something a little confusing in the process of attacking me with no grounds.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 09 2012 23:40 GMT
#2275
Jingle, take it as a valid criticism of your play. You always go nuts when someone wafts suspicion in your direction, and it's almost never productive.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 10 2012 00:01 GMT
#2276
On September 10 2012 08:40 marvellosity wrote:
Jingle, take it as a valid criticism of your play. You always go nuts when someone wafts suspicion in your direction, and it's almost never productive.


It'd be a better criticism of my play if he wasn't basing it off of me responding to half baked accusations.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
September 10 2012 00:02 GMT
#2277
Woot! We win!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 10 2012 00:23 GMT
#2278
On September 10 2012 09:01 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 08:40 marvellosity wrote:
Jingle, take it as a valid criticism of your play. You always go nuts when someone wafts suspicion in your direction, and it's almost never productive.


It'd be a better criticism of my play if he wasn't basing it off of me responding to half baked accusations.
The doneness of the accusations doesn't matter at all. There are going to be half- and otherwise-baked accusations thrown around all game long. At everyone.

Like...I'm not even saying that you responded scummily. It's more that if your response is to OMGUS any accusation, then I'm going to discount your reads. If your response is to shut down and refuse to do anything but vote one guy because he's being productive, I'm going to discount your reads. It wouldn't even matter if you had nailed every scum in the game because they all happened to call you out, you had no thread presence, no pull, and I wasn't going to vote for your targets, and am guessing others wouldn't either.
Fe fi fo fum.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 10 2012 02:50 GMT
#2279
On September 10 2012 09:23 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 09:01 JingleHell wrote:
On September 10 2012 08:40 marvellosity wrote:
Jingle, take it as a valid criticism of your play. You always go nuts when someone wafts suspicion in your direction, and it's almost never productive.


It'd be a better criticism of my play if he wasn't basing it off of me responding to half baked accusations.
The doneness of the accusations doesn't matter at all. There are going to be half- and otherwise-baked accusations thrown around all game long. At everyone.

Like...I'm not even saying that you responded scummily. It's more that if your response is to OMGUS any accusation, then I'm going to discount your reads. If your response is to shut down and refuse to do anything but vote one guy because he's being productive, I'm going to discount your reads. It wouldn't even matter if you had nailed every scum in the game because they all happened to call you out, you had no thread presence, no pull, and I wasn't going to vote for your targets, and am guessing others wouldn't either.


Unfortunately, given my reads this game, quite a few people did vote with my reads. My thread presence on the other hand, yes, that was terrible.
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