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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 08 2012 22:37 GMT
#2241
Only Meowth knows Pay day so it was obvious even from a town PoV that Meowth used Payday and if It wasn't obvious you really need to play more pokemon

S+B and me meh you have me there
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 22:56:21
September 08 2012 22:54 GMT
#2242
I can't believe town lost after that first night ugh

Thanks to deconduo/GreyMisT for hosting.

Edit: lol, what. I got shot by four different people.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 08 2012 23:03 GMT
#2243
On September 09 2012 07:37 Drazerk wrote:
Only Meowth knows Pay day so it was obvious even from a town PoV that Meowth used Payday and if It wasn't obvious you really need to play more pokemon

S+B and me meh you have me there


Yeah but you knew it was a 0.5 KP attack when you shouldn't have known
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 08 2012 23:08 GMT
#2244
i still dont get why kurumi got lynched
are you kidding me
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 08 2012 23:13 GMT
#2245
On September 09 2012 08:03 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 07:37 Drazerk wrote:
Only Meowth knows Pay day so it was obvious even from a town PoV that Meowth used Payday and if It wasn't obvious you really need to play more pokemon

S+B and me meh you have me there


Yeah but you knew it was a 0.5 KP attack when you shouldn't have known


As Austin said earlier - a 0.000000001kp attack is slightly retarded
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 08 2012 23:42 GMT
#2246
LOOOOOOOOOL

gg I guess
On September 09 2012 07:23 deconduo wrote:
Also HOW DID YOU GUYS NOT LYNCH DRAZERK!

-He knew Meowth's KP
-Meowth flipped scum.
-S+B claimed he was shooting drazerk, and then shot himself
-Drazerk claimed bus driver!

this. Someone even posted d1 "Looks like Drazerk has some information on Toads role and Toad has some information on Drazerks role". Someone else said that I'm not willing to lynch Zeph d1 without explaining why.

Oh and my death was retarded, The most frustrating one EVER.
Like the chance to die was (1/25)*(chance to target a vig). Probably something like a 1 out of 100 chance to die if we assume that ever 4th guy in this guy is a night-vig, which probably is wrong.

Anything else and I'd be fine. Target a medic, a DT a roleblocker or WHATEVER else and I'd be fine.
Role something BESIDES 3 when doing the 1/25 roll and I'm fine as well.
Most stupid death ever.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 08 2012 23:45 GMT
#2247
Chansey Chansey, motherfucker.

my reaction coming into the game:

- OMFG I AM A BULLET PROOF MEDIC YES I AM GONNA DESTROY THESE SCUM SO FUCKING HARD
- "hey bro you are scum"
- Fuck you deconduo trolling.


Also,
- drazerk asks for shots day1 repeatedly
- the one guy to shoot him dies
- NOBODY CARES ABOUT IT

geez
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 08 2012 23:56 GMT
#2248
On September 09 2012 08:45 Zephirdd wrote:
Chansey Chansey, motherfucker.

my reaction coming into the game:

- OMFG I AM A BULLET PROOF MEDIC YES I AM GONNA DESTROY THESE SCUM SO FUCKING HARD
- "hey bro you are scum"
- Fuck you deconduo trolling.


Also,
- drazerk asks for shots day1 repeatedly
- the one guy to shoot him dies
- NOBODY CARES ABOUT IT

geez

same thing here:

AWESOME I'M FUCKING JOKER AGAIN! Immune vs night hits and a infinite vig.

And I end up being mafia
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 09 2012 00:02 GMT
#2249
FML GG.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 09 2012 00:11 GMT
#2250
The secret to playing against scum Drazerk is to do nothing. Let me lynch my scum team and then you try to kill me praying I'm not a vengful townie / kp immune / lynch immune / rhyming.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 09 2012 00:12 GMT
#2251
On September 09 2012 09:11 Drazerk wrote:
The secret to playing against scum Drazerk is to do nothing. Let me lynch my scum team and then you try to kill me praying I'm not a vengful townie / kp immune / lynch immune / rhyming.

thing is that is a default lose for town if you're town.
+ Show Spoiler +
BURN, just kidding :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 09 2012 00:18 GMT
#2252
On September 09 2012 09:12 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 09:11 Drazerk wrote:
The secret to playing against scum Drazerk is to do nothing. Let me lynch my scum team and then you try to kill me praying I'm not a vengful townie / kp immune / lynch immune / rhyming.

thing is that is a default lose for town if you're town.
+ Show Spoiler +
BURN, just kidding :p


Silly Toad I always role scum even when I actually role town.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 09 2012 00:29 GMT
#2253
On September 09 2012 09:18 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 09:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On September 09 2012 09:11 Drazerk wrote:
The secret to playing against scum Drazerk is to do nothing. Let me lynch my scum team and then you try to kill me praying I'm not a vengful townie / kp immune / lynch immune / rhyming.

thing is that is a default lose for town if you're town.
+ Show Spoiler +
BURN, just kidding :p


Silly Toad I always role scum even when I actually role town.

but you don't know your "allies" as town
so we'd end up lynching townies all game long if you're town.

Zeph and you are just going to get lynched when you slip :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 09 2012 00:29 GMT
#2254
On August 20 2012 16:59 strongandbig wrote:
Man, this thread is hilarious! A great way to start the morning!

+ Show Spoiler [some of my favorites[/spoiler] +

On August 20 2012 08:35 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Hi all. I am town.

Cheers

Im assuming wherebugsgo can only be a bug-type, so lets list off gen 1 bug types:

010 Caterpie Bug
011 Metapod Bug
012 Butterfree Bug Flying
013 Weedle Bug Poison
014 Kakuna Bug Poison
015 Beedrill Bug Poison
046 Paras Bug Grass
047 Parasect Bug Grass
048 Venonat Bug Poison
049 Venomoth Bug Poison
123 Scyther Bug Flying

Now the real question is where bug types go, pokealliance or team rocket. If my memory serves me right, team rocket never used any of these bug type pokemon in the show. Therefore, wherebugsgo is telling the truth.

Flawless logic.


hahaha

On August 20 2012 09:02 grush57 wrote:
See look at wiggles, he asks me a legit question. Plus, he continues my tradition

To answer the question, breadcrumb, and meta. Plus I'm town.

Now, we must find scum.

I must stop posting so scum can start posting and then we catch them.

Cool trick.


Is grush really dumb enough to only breadcrumb that he's town when he actually is town? Only time will tell.

PS: The word "starsenses" is his breadcrumb that he's town. For example see Mad Men mafia (I think). It really is that dumb.

On August 20 2012 09:20 grush57 wrote:
Come on man u come up with this new fancy term and theory and then u disprove it in the same post.

User was temp banned for this post.


hahahaha

On August 20 2012 13:51 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 09:08 Drazerk wrote:
Analysing how people join the thread is probably the most interesting part of the game


Your right... Look what I discovered:

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 15:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
/in

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 15:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
/in


They joined the game at the exact same time. The must be Mafia!Rocket peoples!


hahahahah. Chezinu I'm glad you're in this game, I really enjoyed obsing you in Bureaucracy and hope for more of the same this time.







Now for a little bit of seriousness: I think Drazerk is scum.

Two reasons, with subpoints:

(1) The "trying to out KP roles" thing. Now, IDGAF whether or not it's a good idea for town - that's not the point right now. The point is, Drazerk was clearly just doing stuff for the sake of doing stuff.

(1A) He hadn't thought through whether or not outing KP roles is a good idea for town or not before he started doing it; you can tell because his argument with me evolves over the course of the discussion, and he relies on the "kenpachi assumption" of balanced type distribution, but not until after Kenpachi suggested it - implying he hadn't originally been making that assumption. Additionally, he clearly assumes the existence of factional KP until later on.

(1B) His method of trying to out KP roles sucks ass juice. Like, we know nothing more than we did previously about whether or not Toad has a KP role than we did before, all we know is that when Drazerk (fake?)claimed a KP role, toad (fake?)claimed a KP role right back. There's no way that his troll method gains reliable information, either as scum or as town. Drazerk is also smart enough to realize this.

(1C) Okay, so what? Just doing stupid trolly shit doesn't make Drazerk town. As he himself has informed us, his town meta in this kind of heavily themed game is to do stupid trolly shit and not be useful to town. I've played enough of these games with him to recognize that. My argument isn't that he's scum because he does stupid trolly shit. He is scum because he does stupid trolly shit and then, when called out on it, tries to make up arguments for why it's pro-town. Honestly, I was shocked when I posted "sooo, why are you trying to out kp roles" and he responded with an actual srsbsns reason rather than just more trololol.

Intermission: Some Choice Quotes from Drazerk

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 09:09 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 09:07 grush57 wrote:
Anyways, no scum would be retarded enough to be this active early.
If anything they would be in a position asking the questions while not doing anything themselves like drazerk(or anyone else really)
However, the only way to prove your innocence is to catch scum.
U C?


The key to winning on either side is thread presence

This will never ever ever change.

lolwut

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 10:28 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:23 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)

So the following -

No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum

Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green


Why do you keep stating obvious things -_-


I have my reasons


I hope they don't revolve around you using the argument later of "look at how helpful I was being, I clearly cannot be scum" because well, general advice to a group of players who at this point should all know the basics of playing clearly wouldn't need said advice.




I never defend myself

You should know this by now

that's interesting... doesn't look that way to me.

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 09:08 Drazerk wrote:
I do love how 4/25 people enter the thread in the EXACT same way

Analysing how people join the thread is probably the most interesting part of the game

Okay then let's do that!

(2) The Solarbeam. This is a pretty silly reason and you should think much more about the first part, but I think this one is still interesting enough to post. I think Drazerk actually is Venusaur, and he has charged up energy for his solar beam.

(2A) Think about it for a minute - why choose solarbeam as his fake dayvig thing on VE? It makes no sense - it's a two-turn move, and if present in this game it would definitely require a turn of charge-up in order to be able to fire later. Plus, there are much more appropriate moves to choose. Shadow and Flame was an unblockable day- or night- vig shot with one use. Fissure, Horn Drill and Guillotine are all more appropriate choices for this than solarbeam; so is hyper beam. And from the pregame, Drazerk obviously knows enough about pokemon to realize that solarbeam isn't the best choice for analogy.

(2B) Why does this make him scum? Well, it's the inconsistency. He tries to persuade us that outing KP roles is pro-town, while purposely charging his KP role in a way that keeps it secret. If he really believed in that "track the KP, track the scum" thing then he'd put his money where his mouth his, imo.

There's also the general scummy-scumscum stuff he posts, like his "I always look scummy so I need to be vigged" and his "I don't defend myself" and his whole little "anti-meta" thing. But the problem is, I don't think those are "alignment indicative" from him, since I've seen him do them before as town. They're just "being-a-terrible-player-indicative."

Oh and also ##vote: Drazerk



QFT. Motherfuckers. I'm especially proud of the solarbeam analysis, but everything in here turned out 100% right and yet drazerk still somehow lived till a million years after I vig shot him and claimed it and then killed myself. wtf town derpherpalerp.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 09 2012 00:31 GMT
#2255
oh also this continues my perfect 4-for-4 streak of aiming vig shots at scum

unfortunately I'm only 2-for-4 at killing them with them.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 00:42:19
September 09 2012 00:41 GMT
#2256
the bus thing was actually the worst thing ever.

Why should mafia EVER bus town <-> town. That just doesn't make sense. You pretty much always bus mafia <-> town to get both advantages of a bus: Protection AND kill. town <-> town is just a wasted bus unless it's a very specific situation.
It was obvious that the bus had to be a mafia because who in their right mind would bus s&b (someone who looked REALLY good and therefor got killed by mafia) with Drazerk as a townie :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
September 09 2012 02:48 GMT
#2257
I can say this game was infuriating as a person who basically spectated all of it. (jesus VE if you ever shoot someone on that reasoning again)

Drazerk if you read his filter was insanely obvious. Misder was more or less obvious and zeph outright claimed targeting a player who claimed to be hit -_-

Untop of that he did nothing to ever help the town, claims medic and bulletproof and no one was dying fairly frequently.

I will say wellplayed draz and zeph as I have no idea how you pulled this off and given the horrific start you guys had after N1 no one in the obs qt thought you'd take it but you guys did.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
September 09 2012 02:49 GMT
#2258
Also, how have I had the worst / one of the worst roles IN EVERY PTP game -_- I had the single worst role in existence this game and arguably last ptp as well.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
September 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#2259
GG, thanks to hosts.
you gotta dance
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
September 09 2012 10:29 GMT
#2260
Thanks for hosting, for the role, sorry for my lackluster play
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