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On May 25 2012 00:29 Nova_Terra wrote:
Nah thats just saying that i feel more comfortable with a lynch on acid, but i would still go to zealos
If you're town, do you see how much lynch bait you are by not posting constructively?
On May 24 2012 18:41 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 16:26 Nova_Terra wrote:
In fact, i would prefer a Katina lynch Bla de bla bla bla. Your filter is now 6 pages long. I do not want to see another post from you that isn't a decent case against who you want to lynch, and it should be more than 2 sentences long. Gogo.
Do this.
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Also im just tired from 2 nights in a row of 4 hours of sleep >.> i'll be posting like normal after tonight
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On May 25 2012 00:33 Nova_Terra wrote:
Also im just tired from 2 nights in a row of 4 hours of sleep >.> i'll be posting like normal after tonight
The problem is your current posting is 'normal'. It's been going for 1.5 games now :/
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By normal i meant more spammy, normal for me
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On May 25 2012 00:59 Nova_Terra wrote:
By normal i meant more spammy, normal for me
Just make a fucking case already. So far you've said you wanted a Katina lynch, an Acid lynch, and you'd be ok with a Zealos lynch. Make a case. Stop making excuses.
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On May 23 2012 13:39 Nova_Terra wrote:
hey at least with me here it looks like the game is really active and people take sides on stuff
Was just picking through your filter a little and found this. In what world, where you are townie, is getting a bunch of town to think you're scum a productive outcome?
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Hi, im going to take a brief bit of time to go over my favorite for todays lynch, Katina.
Note the word brief, her filter is 12 posts. 6 of which is 1 or 2 liners.
Now lets go and check a game where Katina was scum, TL Mafia LIV.
In her filter:
Posts at the same rate as this game, aka lurking (until she gets modkilled day1)
posting aggressively when she actually posts
quoting to look like shes contributing
to quote katina,
What is she doing this game?
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Same thing!
First post
On May 22 2012 01:57 Katina wrote:
Hi guys, just finished reading through the thread (not that it was much to read) I like how people jumped onto the VE votes like little school girls licking lollipops and followed the teacher. We are how far into day one? and there are only a few pages and not much to go on as in terms of scum hunting. I agree that Navillus looks a little suspicious at the moment. I will be rereading the thread and taking a closer look at what we have so far.
Okay, so immediately we have complaining about other peoples votes while offering nothing, saying theres nothing to scum hunt with (yeah thanks for that) a Navillus scummy bandwagon, and a promise for some closer look soon.
Only a day and 3 hours later does she actually make a post with any sort of "closer look".
Second post
On May 22 2012 07:25 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 05:52 froggynoddy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 22 2012 05:29 Tunkeg wrote:
Reads d1 of Day1
Acrofalis/Marvellosity:
Leaning town based on Acrofalis aggression while he was in game. He tried to get this game going, and tried to apply some pressure.
EchelonTee:
Leaning town. He went into a fight with Acrofalis from the get go, and haven't been afraid to stick his head out.
Zealos
Get some scumvibes off him. He started the game by voting VE as number two, without a good reason. He claims it to be a joke later (which it might be). He then proceeds to vote Acrofales based on ET's case, and because of meta, basicly sheeping ET. The rest of his filter seems very empty, even though he got more post than most in this game. Some townpoints for actually bother to answer questions.
Mattchew
He might be one of those I called out for not posting earlier, that is a scum. I don't know what he is trying to do, but if his postingstyle continues this way he will be disruptive townie at best, and sabotaging scum at worst. Leaning scum for now.
Nova_Terra
Leaning scum. He was active at the start, but unlike Acrofalis his attempts at pushing seems more forced, and with no real weight behind it. His whole postingstyle seems very non-commital and gives me scumvibes.
Also Navillus need to get in the thread and do some more. His vote on WBG is the only thing he have done. And it was done without much reasoning, and in my opinion strange reasoning.
PS: I know you guys don't like list. But I want to do lists so bare with me.
PS 2: This is not an analysis post. It is a read post. When I am ready to put my vote down on someone I will try to make a good case/analysis on them. Exception is if there is a great case on them that I agree with, then I will be open about sheeping it, and probably just add some of my own reasoning to it.
This list... serves no purpose other than making you look active. Town reads are worse than useless day 1 as 1. they are even weaker than day 1 scumreads and 2. points to scum who to kill to cause confusion. EDIT: There was more but WBG and Navillus covered it whilst I was writing + Show Spoiler +On May 22 2012 05:37 Navillus wrote:
Okaaay so my WBG vote was a joke, I do not actually think it's a good idea to lynch one of our 2 vets on that basis alone and I am not really of the opinion that advice is an automatic scum-tell, it'd be nice to have a little benefit of the doubt on me not being an idiot.
Next ##Unvote
##Vote: Mattchew
As far as I can tell he's just posting with flavor text from mtg cards, if that continues I don't really care if he's scum or town it makes him impossible to read, doesn't let him contribute, and makes for a really shitty atmosphere. Mattchew stop it.
On N_T yes VE and WBG I'd say he's using pretty bad method of scumhunting/analysis and his vote is for a dumb reason, but that doesn't make him scum and aside from clear-cut examples of someone being useless or disruptive (such as restricting their posts to text from a card game) it's a bad idea to lynch someone for bad play, in my experience it's rarely a scumtell and depending on how they're playing badly it can be more of a town tell.
Tunkeg you asked a bunch of questions earlier, most of them were ignored, was there any point to them? Why don't you care that people didn't answer you/why aren't you following up? Also why post that list, if you have scum reads why aren't you just pressuring them instead of telling them, and how does telling everyone your town-reads do anything but let scum know who you think is townie and so light them up as targets?
Holy spam batman! NT scum or town please stop with multiple one or two line posts in a row, it's distracting and makes the thread harder to read through, consolidate. How is voting for Mattchew due to his posting style (which you consider to be *Bad*) different to voting N_T based on bad play? I don't necessarily disagree with you I just think you're being a little inconsistent. Shoot I forgot to unvote as promised: ##Unvote
##Vote KatinaInactive players kill town. Katina, my vote stays on you until you make an appearance. I made an apperance earlier today. Do you not read over the thread my dear? Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 03:27 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 22 2012 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 21 2012 21:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
Hey VE since you seem to want to ignore my challenge who do you wanna kill Hey Nova, since you seem to want to ignore my question to you (something that's actually USEFUL to this game, unlike your "challenge"), how about you actually answer it instead of trying to distract town with meaningless drivel? I'll even repost it for your convenience. On May 21 2012 08:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 21 2012 05:59 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 21 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Whether or not advice is good has nothing to do with the alignment of a player, just the same as making a plan, regardless of how good it is, is generally not indicative of alignment.
If the advice makes sense, follow it. If not, don't. The question of "is this guy scum" has nothing to do with that. I never said that it has anything to do with indicacating the alignment of the player,i said that general advice seems to be contributing but isnt really. and that its just as likely mister helpful is scum, etc. Your style has so far been laced with an air of giving advice to the other players - in what way is Bugs' post giving advice any different from, say, you warning that "players trying to give advice could be scum"? ooh i forgot about that Its different because its not all i've done and because i know im town and its not really different itself, but i was aware of the hypocrisy before i made teh post I would to bring attention to this lovely post. N_T might be the BM version 2! I say this because of his spam, oneliners, and the fact he seems to be refreshing the thread every 5 minutes. When BM is mafia he always over emphasizes that he is confirmed town. Such things are silly to say and provide no help to the town I will be setting my vote. ##Vote Nove_TerraBased on his fliter, he seems to more interesting in proving his innocence then trying to find the Mafia.
Then we have a wonderfully awful case against myself, decides to link me to another player and therefore i am mafia (lolwut)
This post is also wonderful because once gets accused of lurking... NO LOOK I WAS HERE BEFORE READ READ READ WHY U NO READ
So so far we have a silly case and vote that adds suspicion to players with no logical reasoning, getting defensive when called out on totally true lurking, and meta that is the exact same as her last games scum meta
On May 22 2012 08:07 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2012 18:37 Mouldy Jeb wrote:
hi- now my presence is known. saying "get rid of a veteran" indicates that you are worried that an experienced Mafia player will either weasel you out~ if your mafia or kill you if you are not so due to this rash decision to get rid of competition so on that note #vote:Nova_Terra I was reading through filters and came across this post. It is just O.o This post does not have a purpose. It feels forced. Almost like he didn't really want to post but knew that he had to. I'm not saying we should kill him but that a finger of suspicion should be pointed onto him. He just played the noob card in his post. I'm always wary of those people. They don't tickle my fancy.
Oh cool, now we have a secondary target being thrown out, but not only is this post throwing out a secondary target...
Its pretty much doing the same thing as Katina was pointing out here, and more importantly shes asking for someone to do the dirty work for her. Im not sure we should but he should be suspicious everybody notice i do stuff.
Now heres the first real "closer look post"
On May 23 2012 04:19 Katina wrote:Sorry, I'm here now. I had a very busy day yesterday but it's all good now. Show nested quote +On May 21 2012 04:45 Nova_Terra wrote:
Yaaaaaay!
Should we get rid of a veteran? should we? I THINK SO :D
##Vote: VisceraEyes Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 01:26 Nova_Terra wrote:
as of yet i would be fine with either a Navillus or WBG lynch Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 04:34 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 22 2012 04:16 froggynoddy wrote:Hello, finally recovered from weekend (did not expect this game to start so early). Hello Marv  : I'm almost tempted to policy vote you due to how scary good you played with me as scum in LIV. Policy lynches are bad though so your safe until you post more. I don't think WBG's opening comment is alignment charged. there are equal reasons for both town and scum to open up D1 with general common sense posts. From the 2 games I've played (Noobie VIII and TLMafia LIV) and N_T has been lurky/bored as townie and hyper-active as scum. Just saying. Navillus, despite still being a noob I am strongly against a 'voting against vets' policy. It makes no sense and seems hugely anti-town, unless its a joke. Let me know if it is because until then ##Vote Navillus[/b Rofl, well thats interesting, it looks like i just went through your newbie game (snmmIX not VIII, bitch to find) and in that game there was an understanding that my town meta was very very active which i ended up failing at as scum, and my meta change was frequently noted in cases against me. Very interesting that you would want to try to make this conclusion. what reason would there be other than scum? ##Unvote
##Vote: Froggynoddy Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 14:24 Nova_Terra wrote:
On May 22 2012 14:18 EchelonTee wrote:
acid, jeb, katina, or no lynch
i think one of those should happen
in no particular order froggy, katina, WBG Okay.... please tell me you guys have seem how inconsistent N_T is. Take a look at his filter. He opens with going after VE right off the back with close to no reasoning except he that he might be a veteran. Then he proceeds to spew out short useless posts. He is throwing doubt around the town and is picking at everyone. I don't need to tell you guys he's spamming relentlessly. As I said before he seems more interested in proving his own innocence than trying to find mafia. This is shown by how he is trying to kill anyone he can. Instead of just focusing on one or two players.
First part of the post is literally the exact same excuse as LIV where she says that she had a busy night so apologies apologies, good job
Then is this awful reasoning that i am scum, looks like to me once she realized that my vote got sufficient traction it was time to bandwagon a real reason for hers
Problem is, the reasons are bull. So right now it appears that she opposes pressure (apparently pressuring a veteran isnt ok) and its a problem that i picked at "everyone" (actually 6 people, 15 people in town. i dont see the problem). Furthermore, as she had just been in a game with me, i would assume she knows how i post spammily and this shouldnt be surprising to her. Unless she rolled scum, and is bullshitting, that is. Apparently its a bad thing to not only focus on 1 or 2 players (what? trying to limit a vote where there is no no-lynch?)
Then theres a couple worthless short defenses of herself. then this wonderful gem:
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Not only is this completely stupid to have not seemed to read the thread, she says that my spam is similar to a game i played mafia in
But wait, i was just in a game with you where i was town
AND I SPAMMED
So now shes just throwing shit to try to get a nice mislynch, doesnt matter if it makes sense as long as it casts suspicion, amirite katina
On May 23 2012 06:52 Katina wrote:
On May 23 2012 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Regardless of his alignment nova seems to post a lot. Over the span of a week in games where he was scum and town he had 8-10 pages of filter in both.
Only his first game seems to be an anomaly with 5 pages after 9-10 days but that's still quite a lot (especially for a newbie game)
So why is it, Katina, that you're trying to pass off Nova's spam as exclusively a scum trait?
I'm not. I'm just saying he has done it before.
OWAIT NOOOO dont get me wrong im not trying to say that hes scum because of it! im just suggesting its a possibility11!!!!!
Do i seriously need to explain this
Then theres some wonderful sheeping on the "mattchews posting is cute but maybe hes scum"
Good job saying nothing original (again)
WIFOM: Katina was one of ET's main suspects that he was fine with lynching, but wasnt noticed very much
Same meta as scum Katina
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On May 25 2012 01:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 13:39 Nova_Terra wrote:
hey at least with me here it looks like the game is really active and people take sides on stuff Was just picking through your filter a little and found this. In what world, where you are townie, is getting a bunch of town to think you're scum a productive outcome?
I never suggested that it was?
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EBWOP: screwed up vote tag, again
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On May 25 2012 01:24 Nova_Terra wrote:Then theres a couple worthless short defenses of herself. then this wonderful gem: ..... Not only is this completely stupid to have not seemed to read the thread, she says that my spam is similar to a game i played mafia in But wait, i was just in a game with you where i was town AND I SPAMMED So now shes just throwing shit to try to get a nice mislynch, doesnt matter if it makes sense as long as it casts suspicion, amirite katina Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 06:52 Katina wrote:On May 23 2012 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Regardless of his alignment nova seems to post a lot. Over the span of a week in games where he was scum and town he had 8-10 pages of filter in both.
Only his first game seems to be an anomaly with 5 pages after 9-10 days but that's still quite a lot (especially for a newbie game)
So why is it, Katina, that you're trying to pass off Nova's spam as exclusively a scum trait? I'm not. I'm just saying he has done it before.
Yay, Nova, a case! I've quoted the part I find particularly compelling. You see, you have a veteran player who knows how to play the game, and yet is lurky. This is at least forgiveable if when they do turn up, they say something of note.
But here it's: Nova spams! And her response to wbg is even worse - "I know it's not alignment indicative, I'm just saying he spammed before". Her filter is short enough that when she contributes with the weakest sauce possible, it's superbad.
What does everyone else think?
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Do any of you ever stop to think why Zealos may be impervious to a wagon?
Stop to think of why he may not be getting as many votes as we want him to.
Stop and reread his posts.
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My case on bugs is strong, and all of you are going to realize it when it's too late. marvellosity, I expected more from you.
##Unvote: wherebugsgo
##Vote: Zealos
Katina's probably town.
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On May 25 2012 01:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
Do any of you ever stop to think why Zealos may be impervious to a wagon?
Stop to think of why he may not be getting as many votes as we want him to.
Stop and reread his posts.
Instead of talking cryptically, why not just say exactly what you mean?
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VE would you kill Katina?
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What's funny about bugs' last post is that it's completely applicable to himself as well. Why the piss can't I get a single vote on Bugs? Why does he seem impervious to a wagon? Just go read his postss....
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On May 25 2012 01:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
My case on bugs is strong, and all of you are going to realize it when it's too late. marvellosity, I expected more from you.
##Unvote: wherebugsgo
##Vote: Zealos
Katina's probably town.
On May 23 2012 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
VE: I am dissapoint.
1-1 I guess?
What makes you think Katina is town? What do you think of Nova's case, and specifically the part I quoted and commented on?
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Nvm
It should be obvious I want the townies in this game to do work.
If I just say everything then town dies when I die.
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No Bugs, I wouldn't. Not today. You Zealos and Nova are scummier by leagues than lurker Katina
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On May 25 2012 01:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
My case on bugs is strong, and all of you are going to realize it when it's too late. marvellosity, I expected more from you.
##Unvote: wherebugsgo
##Vote: Zealos
Katina's probably town.
w.....w...wha???
No WBGs probably town
why u so hard defend
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On May 25 2012 01:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
Nvm
It should be obvious I want the townies in this game to do work.
If I just say everything then town dies when I die.
There's a difference between saying everything and saying nothing.
At the moment you are doing the latter.
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