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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2012 09:43 GMT
#641
Currently I read the VE's case on wbg as: Nitpickypickynitpicky.

You might think he's the strongest lynch but having read the thread and then your filter to check if I'm missing something, it's not even made me think about shoogling my bum off Zealos.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 24 2012 09:44 GMT
#642
I seem to be getting that age-old feeling that no one in town is playing to win.

What is it, bored of rolling VT? Don't know how to play? Too scared to be wrong? Afk? Other games? D3?

Most of those reasons can be countered by "don't sign up if you can't play" and that's pretty annoying to do. The usual last resort in this case is to kill scummy lurkers. Though, it's pretty hard to just kill lurkers when they have a higher chance of flipping town than scum.

If no one has realized yet that the voting system and town to scum ratio combined tremendously favors scum, and in a way that forces town to be active, then the game's probably over. We won't be able to kill the scum fast enough because we lose voting influence rapidly. So, it's now or never.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2012 09:47 GMT
#643
On May 24 2012 18:44 wherebugsgo wrote:

If no one has realized yet that the voting system and town to scum ratio combined tremendously favors scum, and in a way that forces town to be active, then the game's probably over. We won't be able to kill the scum fast enough because we lose voting influence rapidly. So, it's now or never.


And yet your vote is on Acid. Is he really your strongest scumread?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
May 24 2012 09:48 GMT
#644
On May 24 2012 17:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
Is he gone?

<peeks around a corner>

Anyway if Acid never responds, we kill him.

To make that threat more real, let's turn up the heat.

##vote Acid~

Nova, do you support a lynch of any of Acid, zealos, or Tunkeg?


Fine, I'll respond. I don't think I would lynch Tunkeg today. There's nothing about his play that seems scummy to me. Zealos, that might happen if you could make a real case against him.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 24 2012 09:49 GMT
#645
I already explained why my vote is on Acid.

If the threat isn't real then what's the point of trying to consolidate town? If a player is not willing to even answer a simple question then the easiest way to deal with them is to kill them.

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2012 09:51 GMT
#646
On May 24 2012 18:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
I already explained why my vote is on Acid.

If the threat isn't real then what's the point of trying to consolidate town? If a player is not willing to even answer a simple question then the easiest way to deal with them is to kill them.



That is not 'he is my strongest scumread'. If we're in Day 2 and your strongest read on someone is based on not answering a question, we are in trouble.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2012 09:51 GMT
#647
On May 24 2012 18:48 Acid~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 17:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
Is he gone?

<peeks around a corner>

Anyway if Acid never responds, we kill him.

To make that threat more real, let's turn up the heat.

##vote Acid~

Nova, do you support a lynch of any of Acid, zealos, or Tunkeg?


Fine, I'll respond. I don't think I would lynch Tunkeg today. There's nothing about his play that seems scummy to me. Zealos, that might happen if you could make a real case against him.


As opposed to my fake case you mean?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 24 2012 09:51 GMT
#648
Okay, cool. I actually happen to agree that Zealos is scummier than Tunkeg.

I'm curious to see whether VE will touch the lynch now, though.

##unvote Acid~

##vote Zealos


Had you answered oppositely I'd probably have tried to kill you with Zealos. If Zealos is scum then hopefully we can flush out his teammates soon.
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
May 24 2012 09:52 GMT
#649
On May 24 2012 18:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
I already explained why my vote is on Acid.

If the threat isn't real then what's the point of trying to consolidate town? If a player is not willing to even answer a simple question then the easiest way to deal with them is to kill them.



Oh, the irony.
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
May 24 2012 09:54 GMT
#650
On May 24 2012 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 18:48 Acid~ wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
Is he gone?

<peeks around a corner>

Anyway if Acid never responds, we kill him.

To make that threat more real, let's turn up the heat.

##vote Acid~

Nova, do you support a lynch of any of Acid, zealos, or Tunkeg?


Fine, I'll respond. I don't think I would lynch Tunkeg today. There's nothing about his play that seems scummy to me. Zealos, that might happen if you could make a real case against him.


As opposed to my fake case you mean?


Not what I meant. I'll go and read yours real quick.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 24 2012 09:54 GMT
#651
On May 24 2012 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 18:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
I already explained why my vote is on Acid.

If the threat isn't real then what's the point of trying to consolidate town? If a player is not willing to even answer a simple question then the easiest way to deal with them is to kill them.



That is not 'he is my strongest scumread'. If we're in Day 2 and your strongest read on someone is based on not answering a question, we are in trouble.


Had he chosen to continue ignoring a common subject when brought to his attention so blatantly (and choosing instead to defend himself) he clearly would've been my strongest scumread.

As of now he's off the hook but I can't say any of you look particularly good.

It still bothers me, for example, how little effort Katina is putting in when I know she has strong reads as town. So far she has not weighed in at all but in the past she has done this as town too.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2012 09:57 GMT
#652
I don't know what to do about Katina :/ I almost made some sort of case when I was doing Zealos - before the post I had planned on doing them both at the same time - but couldnt' find convincing enough arguments.

There's also the fact she was very active in Liar for a while, while completely ignoring this game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 24 2012 10:04 GMT
#653
But dead in Liar now, so that excuse shouldn't exist.

Anyway there are two lynches I'll accept today; one of them is Zealos and the other one I won't name for now.
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
May 24 2012 10:17 GMT
#654
On May 24 2012 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 18:48 Acid~ wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
Is he gone?

<peeks around a corner>

Anyway if Acid never responds, we kill him.

To make that threat more real, let's turn up the heat.

##vote Acid~

Nova, do you support a lynch of any of Acid, zealos, or Tunkeg?


Fine, I'll respond. I don't think I would lynch Tunkeg today. There's nothing about his play that seems scummy to me. Zealos, that might happen if you could make a real case against him.


As opposed to my fake case you mean?


After reading both your case and Zealos's filter, I wouldn't say your case is fake, but it's a little on the weak side. I would much rather get rid of either Zelblade or Katina.

Of the two, I think Zelblade is more dangerous. He hasn't posted a single analysis or scumread and was content with bandwagoning Mouldy Jeb.

##vote zelblade
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2012 10:21 GMT
#655
As opposed to Zealos who was happy bandwagoning Mouldy Jeb who he believed to be town, because he couldn't be arsed to actually find scum. Bleh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 24 2012 10:24 GMT
#656
On May 24 2012 19:21 marvellosity wrote:
As opposed to Zealos who was happy bandwagoning Mouldy Jeb who he believed to be town, because he couldn't be arsed to actually find scum. Bleh.

Let me spell it out to you, as you don't seem to understand.
In a game where some one has to die, and my current reads are:
13 town looking players
1 scummy but still overall town, also useless in general.
Who do you vote for? It's like trying to explain maths to a toodler...
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2012 10:28 GMT
#657
On May 24 2012 19:24 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 19:21 marvellosity wrote:
As opposed to Zealos who was happy bandwagoning Mouldy Jeb who he believed to be town, because he couldn't be arsed to actually find scum. Bleh.

Let me spell it out to you, as you don't seem to understand.
In a game where some one has to die, and my current reads are:
13 town looking players
1 scummy but still overall town, also useless in general.
Who do you vote for? It's like trying to explain maths to a toodler...


Let me spell it out to you, because you're an idiot.

In a game where one has to die, and each lynch is important.

You decide not to look for scum until after the lynch is over and lynch someone you believe to be a townie instead. As pointed out the 'reads you came up with all happened before you decided to pack it in for the day and be happy with lynching someone you thought was town.

I voted for someone who I thought was scum.

It's like trying to explain mafia to a toddler? No, I do toddlers a disservice. To a fucking stone.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2012 10:31 GMT
#658
To anyone else reading: short of someone literally claiming scum in the thread, my vote will remain on Zealos.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 24 2012 10:58 GMT
#659
On May 24 2012 19:28 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 19:24 Zealos wrote:
On May 24 2012 19:21 marvellosity wrote:
As opposed to Zealos who was happy bandwagoning Mouldy Jeb who he believed to be town, because he couldn't be arsed to actually find scum. Bleh.

Let me spell it out to you, as you don't seem to understand.
In a game where some one has to die, and my current reads are:
13 town looking players
1 scummy but still overall town, also useless in general.
Who do you vote for? It's like trying to explain maths to a toodler...


Let me spell it out to you, because you're an idiot.

In a game where one has to die, and each lynch is important.

You decide not to look for scum until after the lynch is over and lynch someone you believe to be a townie instead. As pointed out the 'reads you came up with all happened before you decided to pack it in for the day and be happy with lynching someone you thought was town.

I voted for someone who I thought was scum.

It's like trying to explain mafia to a toddler? No, I do toddlers a disservice. To a fucking stone.

I voted for the person who seemed most likely scum at the time. Obviously, he flipped town, so clearly I'm mafia because logic.
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2012 11:02 GMT
#660
Yep, way to not be able to read and misrepresent what's been said. You're a real star.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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