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What happens to your cute little plan?
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
If one of us flips town what happens ve What happens to your cute little plan? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
I never did anything to divert the lynch onto either of them | ||
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Nova_Terra
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Ohhhhh, the dominooooooes....oooooooh, they falll for meeeeeeeee.... | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
Is this surprising to you? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
The answer was "Zelblade" Bugs responded by asking "so nothing to say about Zealos or Tunkeg?" as if to imply that they're the hot-button issue everyone should be commenting on...yet strangely, he's not interested in the fact that you're not interested in either one of them. Strange my friend. Very strange indeed. | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 22 2012 04:22 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm cool with killing nova, since he seems to want to extend joke accusations into real ones for no particular reason. He also isn't using his brain; case in point, this post: Navillus, if I remember correctly, said he wanted to kill me (whether seriously or not, who cares) Nova seemingly wants to jump on any person who is getting traction for a lynch. Namely, since I was gone and Navillus voted me, I was a good choice. Note how Nova never once mentions me before this post. He addresses my posts but expressly avoids saying that he finds my advice post indicative of me being scum or anything like that when I react. On the other hand, people have found Navillus suspicious for his not-so-serious vote on me. While it is a bit suspicious in itself, I find it more suspicious that plenty of people are so willing to kill him based on almost nothing at all. One of those players is nova. This is the post where Bugs first "suspects" Nova. There's a distinct lack of "doubt" about his read here...the post is clearly laid out and he's backed up his claim of "I'm cool with killing Nova" with at least cursory reasoning. However - he's careful not to call him scum here. Please note that - he never once mentions that he thinks Nova is scum. On May 22 2012 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote: Nova subscribes to the notion that if you accuse everyone in the game, any accusation against him is OMGUS. If you're town, stop being disruptive and start using your head. Otherwise, you die today. ##vote Nova_Terra Here we go, a post with meaning. Here bugs votes for Nova. Why? Not because he thinks he's scum - but because he's "disruptive and not using his head". Again, he's voting for the guy. What are we doing here? We're trying to kill scum. Who is bugs trying to kill as of this moment in the game? Nova. Does he think he's scum? Not expressly. Does he want him to die? The threat and the vote seem to indicate so. On May 23 2012 04:52 wherebugsgo wrote: Sorry all, I became really sick overnight. Feeling quite a bit better now, though. I'm fine with killing Katina, VE, and mold man, in that order. Katina normally reads the thread and she usually has more than one read. She also at the very least explains herself to townies. It's clear that she's deliberately ignoring my questions, possibly because she doesn't actually believe in her "case" on Nova (i.e she is scum) By the time I asked Katina the first time how sure she was of Nova being scum I had started to think he was town. Now, it is day 1, and I may be completely wrong about my assessment, but the way the bandwagons have gone today suggest either that both nova and mouldy are town or that one of them is scum. Based on the nova votes just now I'm inclined to think mouldy is scum. Of course, we'll never know the truth unless they flip. As there's not much time left in the day I think we should kill mouldy. If anyone else agrees with me that we should kill Katina or VE, let me know and perhaps we can get a vote switch going. I'll be around till deadline. ##unvote ##vote Mouldy Jeb PS. Anyone notice that Katina says she hates people using the noob card, but hasn't really expressed suspicion of mouldy? (at least, from what I recall) Please note the bolded. Bugs says, very clearly "by the time I asked Katina the first time how sure she was of Nova being scum I had started to think he was town". .... .....but...you were never really suspicious of him in the first place? I mean, yeah, sure...your vote was on him all day...but obviously you never had any intent to actually kill him, you were trying to shock him into lucidity right? Because On May 23 2012 05:12 wherebugsgo wrote: Katina do you think that a newer scum would post as much as nova has? your mind was already made up that he was town from the beginning. So why? Why would you say "by the time I asked Katina that I had already started to think Nova was town" when you never really "thought" he was scum to begin with? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 22 2012 04:49 Nova_Terra wrote: I follow guilty until proven innocent WBG only posted general advice which shouldnt count for crap, defense of said general advice, and half omgus I'm just kinda wondering when Nova stopped thinking Bugs was suspicious...he was going on about lynching one of WBG or Navillus yesterday, I find it interesting that his first act of D1 is to buddy up with Bugs against someone attacking Bugs. *shrug* Anyway, I'm going to bed. Bugs has clocked out (lol he was never clocked in) and only scum are here so that's my cue. Catch y'all lata. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
<peeks around a corner> Anyway if Acid never responds, we kill him. To make that threat more real, let's turn up the heat. ##vote Acid~ Nova, do you support a lynch of any of Acid, zealos, or Tunkeg? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Anyways, really leaving...was just checking something and saw you posted. | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
I am liking VE for town more and more though. Even if I am not a big fan of his playstyle, I think I have been very capable of reading VE when he have been scum before. I don't think his play this time around is scummy. Mainly because of the target he is pushing and the way he is going at them. Also the fact that he is pushing the same targets as those I view as scummy makes me think he is town. WBG is appearing more and more scummy though. He have without no reasoning at all said he would be ok with killing: NT On May 22 2012 04:22 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm cool with killing nova, since he seems to want to extend joke accusations into real ones for no particular reason. He also isn't using his brain; case in point, this post: Navillus, if I remember correctly, said he wanted to kill me (whether seriously or not, who cares) Nova seemingly wants to jump on any person who is getting traction for a lynch. Namely, since I was gone and Navillus voted me, I was a good choice. Note how Nova never once mentions me before this post. He addresses my posts but expressly avoids saying that he finds my advice post indicative of me being scum or anything like that when I react. On the other hand, people have found Navillus suspicious for his not-so-serious vote on me. While it is a bit suspicious in itself, I find it more suspicious that plenty of people are so willing to kill him based on almost nothing at all. One of those players is nova. On May 22 2012 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote: Nova subscribes to the notion that if you accuse everyone in the game, any accusation against him is OMGUS. If you're town, stop being disruptive and start using your head. Otherwise, you die today. ##vote Nova_Terra Katina (some reasons, not any real reasons though), VE and Mouldy Jeb On May 23 2012 04:52 wherebugsgo wrote: Sorry all, I became really sick overnight. Feeling quite a bit better now, though. I'm fine with killing Katina, VE, and mold man, in that order. Katina normally reads the thread and she usually has more than one read. She also at the very least explains herself to townies. It's clear that she's deliberately ignoring my questions, possibly because she doesn't actually believe in her "case" on Nova (i.e she is scum) By the time I asked Katina the first time how sure she was of Nova being scum I had started to think he was town. Now, it is day 1, and I may be completely wrong about my assessment, but the way the bandwagons have gone today suggest either that both nova and mouldy are town or that one of them is scum. Based on the nova votes just now I'm inclined to think mouldy is scum. Of course, we'll never know the truth unless they flip. As there's not much time left in the day I think we should kill mouldy. If anyone else agrees with me that we should kill Katina or VE, let me know and perhaps we can get a vote switch going. I'll be around till deadline. ##unvote ##vote Mouldy Jeb PS. Anyone notice that Katina says she hates people using the noob card, but hasn't really expressed suspicion of mouldy? (at least, from what I recall) Zealos and Me On May 24 2012 01:15 wherebugsgo wrote: If I had a gun, I'd shoot zealos or Tunkeg. Probably flip a coin really, they're both obviously faking trying to look town. On May 24 2012 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote: Having reread everything there isn't much to say...if I live, then we go from there. If I die, then I'll be glad not to have to read/decipher some of the posts from this game. Zealos and Tunkeg are still good bets to flip scum IMO. Mattchew and Nova are annoying, which could mean anything. VE is sheeping more than normal, which is somewhat scummy. Katina's hard to read but if she's even somewhat transparent and correct about some of her reads then probably isn't scum. I can't even remember half the names of the rest of you, since you're so unimpressionable. Great if you're scum and obviously terrible if you're town. Acid On May 24 2012 17:44 wherebugsgo wrote: Is he gone? <peeks around a corner> Anyway if Acid never responds, we kill him. To make that threat more real, let's turn up the heat. ##vote Acid~ Nova, do you support a lynch of any of Acid, zealos, or Tunkeg? Some of you calls this pressuring. I call this trying to start bandwagons, without being held accountable. I am not great at reading WBG though, I have had him as town many times when he was scum. So he might be playing completely opposite of what I consider normal. But I think WBG is leaning heavy scum, and if he can't come up with a decent case on any of his targets I am all for lynching him today. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3575 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:50 VisceraEyes wrote: Guys, this is in the bag. bugs, Nova, bang, bang. Half the scum dead. This is really happening, 2 scum down. We just have to make them die. Join me. Add hiro to the list and we can make it happen. As a gesture of faith, we can go ahead and kill hiro today. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 24 2012 16:26 Nova_Terra wrote: In fact, i would prefer a Katina lynch Bla de bla bla bla. Your filter is now 6 pages long. I do not want to see another post from you that isn't a decent case against who you want to lynch, and it should be more than 2 sentences long. Gogo. | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On May 24 2012 14:51 Navillus wrote: Acid~ My biggest scum-read right now is in fact Acid. Looking through his posts the first thing that jumps out is simply lurking. He has been lurking this entire game, with few posts, even fewer posts of any significant length by him, and even fewer posts in which he is directly addressing or responding to others, something scum love as they get to look like they're making content without ever calling anyone out or putting themselves in a situation where they might get directly called out. Now why would you go and and lie like this? I have been active, and most of my posts have been addressing and responding to others. Also, if you look at the times at which I was inactive, you will notice a disturbing trend. My "lurking" happens between the hours of 2AM and 10AM, CET. I'm definitely pushing a scum agenda here, soon ALL OF YOU will live on French time and you will have nothing to eat but baguettes and fromage. In a similar vein what content he has had has been the same in almost every single post, him tunneling acro/marvel. This tunneling began at the start of the game and hasn't abated, this is very big as it means that he gets to look like he's giving reads the whole time while he's really just repeating the same thing, this thing that also hasn't been the main topic of discussion so he never would end up in the spotlight. The biggest issue in this whole tunneling spree is that then at the end of day one the vote is between NT and Mouldy, Acid had expressed that he thought that NT and Marvel were scumbuddies yet when it's clear that a marvel lynch isn't going to happen and when NT is on the table he doesn't even attempt to move the vote. No he sits content to leave his vote somewhere where it can't do ANYTHING, washing him of any possible guilt for a mislynch of either candidate. You're right, my tunneling hasn't abated at all, that's why when I was asked "who do you want to kill today?", I answered Zelblade, because obviously accusing Zelblade is the best way to get marvellosity lynched. I also haven't said one word about marvellosity since he finally answered my challenge. A more clever man would have deduced that his answer satisfied me for the time being. At the end of day one, I thought that my marvellosity vote would gain traction for a while, starting with VE. I also stated a couple times that I thought marvellosity was a better lynch than NT. By the time it was clear that it wasn't going to happen, Jeb had like five more votes than NT, so yeah I could've moved my vote around for nothing. Instead I stuck to my guns and pressured marvellosity, which led to him posting more and started an interesting discussion. And looking at his most recent post and one of the only posts of his with any reads that aren't marv/NT (maybe the ONLY post) he goes for literally the easiest reads possible, a couple of lurkers who he gives one line on about them lurking and ONE of WBG/VE because it would be too much work to even decide between that. I haven't decided yet because I don't have enough information. You're free to throw ignorant accusations into the wind if you like, I'd rather wait until I can make a logical decision. Finally as if this all wasn't enough, It most certainly is not. after looking through Acid's stuff and concluding much of this, I also looked at ET's filter as promised and found something very interesting. Our resident just-killed townie's largest (Okay maybe second largest) post was an accusation of the one and only Acid. Now this post was a night-time accusation so it didn't draw much attention (if it had I suspect ET would be alive right now) which meant that if say, he had been correct and accused scum they would feel okay shooting him for it as no one really noticed the accusation. Yeah his post didn't draw much attention. Could've been because it was a night post. Could've been because I wasted no time ripping it apart for the pile of bullshit it was. Another instance of me "not responding" to other players, I guess. So yeah, after such an exchange, I felt so pressured that I directed my scumbuddies to shoot the guy in the night, hoping that somehow no one would notice the accusation (I mean, it's not like there's a permanent record of who says what, right?) and I could ride off into the sunset with a piña colada and no one would be none the wiser. I mean look at why ET was killed, Yes, let's. he seemed town and was playing well as far as I can tell and those very probably contributed to his death Two posts. One where he called out acrofales, which was good, and one where he accused me, which wasn't so much. And then he voted Jeb. He wasn't killed because he was a good townie. but vets are viewed very highly in these games, so much that it's surprising that both of them are alive even by day two, it's strange that the scum didn't shoot one of the two people who as scumhunters would presumably be their biggest threats, It's so sad, because you start out with a good train of thought. Let's cut off your inane conclusion and just ponder the bolded part for a while. This makes it clear to me that at least one of them is scum. Mafia up against two veteran townies would definitely have killed one of them. In a balanced situation, then they have to choose. They could go for the vet, but VE claimed town and he also said he didn't expect to live through the night, a not so subtle Medic call. So they can risk wasting a night kill to try and hit a vet, or they can go for an unexpected target and hope they hit a special role. Of course, if both the vets are mafia then it's a no-brainer. and one thing that could very much have influenced this choice is if someone else who was playing well also hit on a scum with a good case. Bolded the funny parts. Thus - ##Vote Acid~ QED This piece of fiction fails to present us with a compelling main character, the story structure is incoherent and full of plot holes, and the anticlimactic finale doesn't deliver on what seemed at first glance to be a promising premise. D- | ||
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