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On May 25 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Katina HARD PUSHED N_T yesterday alongside me in the wee hours of day. Did you ignore this completely Marvel? I mean, you're asking me why I don't see how little content she has, I ask you why you're ignoring what content she does have.
I am not ignoring the content she has. I am asking about these specific comments. She points out Nova spams, to what end? When wbg pulls her up on it, she says "yea, i know it doesn't mean anything." Then why did she make the comment, to what purpose?
I'm going to have to go back over the thread to see at what time she was pushing for an N_T lynch.
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Zelblade Filter
Lurking below the current, she thirsts until others come to drink.
On May 23 2012 21:10 zelblade wrote:
will probably present my thoughts tomorrow. A chain of lies as strong as steel.
On May 22 2012 23:51 zelblade wrote:
Whilst sheeping isnt neccessarily a scumtell, I dont like how jumpy his vote has been, going from person to person
On May 23 2012 00:00 zelblade wrote:
Apparently I screwed up that quote tag -_-
Eh I just realised its pluarity lynch lol. I am considering if I should dump my vote on zealos and see if it gains any traction or onto one of the three leading candidates. Kind of a hard decision since I wouldnt mind all of them dying.
Mattchew is still being a pain in the ass, though his posts are starting to get understandable, and he actually has more content than say, mouldy jeb. Probably not the best lynch today, think hes town.
I still think nova is scummy. But mouldy more so. Agree with marv's case generally.
##vote: Mouldy Jeb
"I'd be happy to stop contradicting you, Urza, just as soon as you start being right." —Bo Levar, planeswalker
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On May 25 2012 02:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
I need someone to come in here and tell me why they think WBG is town please! Anyone, don't be afraid! Just come in here and say with clear reasoning why they think WBG is town!
I can't tell you that wbg is town, but I also can't tell you that wbg is scum.
My issue with much of your case on wbg is that you are making a narrative out of his posts that doesn't actually have to be the case.
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Scum tend to be more active at the start of the game and taper off later.
Based on that alone I think there are at least two viable targets, but neither of them has received much attention. I'm gonna sleep on it for a bit and then if this Zealos thing doesn't take off I'll make a stronger case.
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For the record Bugs, you play every single game like a fucking asshole where I'm concerned. Every. Single. One. So you'll forgive me for thinking that you're "intentionally trying to aggravate me" every game, when you can't civilly play a game with me ever.
I respect your skill more than you know, but it's gotten to the point where I literally can't stand playing with you. You treat me like some kind of raw newb every single game, and it's old now.
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marvel, here's what I want you to do. I asked you a question in my case against Bugs. I've tried to answer all of your questions, and you, like EVERYONE ELSE in town besides Navillus, has ignored the question I posed in my case. Because of this, I'm certain no one has even read my case (aside from Navillus).
Go read my fucking case marvel, I'm literally not even going to respond to you until you answer the question I posed of town.
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I'm pretty sure no matter what I do you call me scum. If I vote with you, scum. If I vote against you, scum. If I'm afk and can't answer something, scum. If you ask me something I'm asking a potential scum (and therefore answering it would defeat the purpose of me asking that guy) and I don't answer, scum.
You've called me scum in every single game we've played for the past five games pretty much indiscriminately and you wonder why after a certain point I ignore you?
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On May 25 2012 02:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
For the record Bugs, you play every single game like a fucking asshole where I'm concerned. Every. Single. One. So you'll forgive me for thinking that you're "intentionally trying to aggravate me" every game, when you can't civilly play a game with me ever.
I respect your skill more than you know, but it's gotten to the point where I literally can't stand playing with you. You treat me like some kind of raw newb every single game, and it's old now.
"Your presumption is your downfall."
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"indiscriminately"....because you know, I never provide reasoning for my thoughts...and lest we forget that you WERE scum or I was scum in maybe half of those games...I mean, go ahead and excuse you treating me like shit all you want. The fact of the matter is that you treat me like shit and make games not enjoyable. Your problem with towns these days is that none of them try or read the thread - yet I'm someone who ALWAYS tries and reads the thread TO A FAULT. Yet, you claim you don't like playing with me because of "how I am".
Fuck that, you're just being manipulative. I'm being honest. That's why I know that you're scum...because I'm trying to have a serious conversation here and you're still trying to turn it around on me to discredit anything I say in this game. You're posting with a purpose, pushing an agenda...the more you post, the clearer that becomes to me.
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Man I'm not going to argue about this, I don't even know why I stopped ignoring you. If you want me to die so badly then continue to do what you're doing and I'll ensure that I die so that at least at that point people will listen to what I have to say, when I'm confirmed.
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That's right, lose an arguement, go AFK. That sounds about right.
Pathetic.
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On May 25 2012 02:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
because I'm trying to have a serious conversation here and you're still trying to turn it around on me to discredit anything I say in this game. You're posting with a purpose, pushing an agenda...the more you post, the clearer that becomes to me. On May 25 2012 02:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
For the record Bugs, you play every single game like a fucking asshole where I'm concerned. Every. Single. One.
it's gotten to the point where I literally can't stand playing with you.
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On May 25 2012 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
marvel, here's what I want you to do. I asked you a question in my case against Bugs. I've tried to answer all of your questions, and you, like EVERYONE ELSE in town besides Navillus, has ignored the question I posed in my case. Because of this, I'm certain no one has even read my case (aside from Navillus).
Go read my fucking case marvel, I'm literally not even going to respond to you until you answer the question I posed of town.
Alright alright, I did. I couldn't find a specific question you asked of town unless I missed it. What was it?
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Did Bugs satisfactorily answer the question I posed of him regarding Nova?
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On May 25 2012 02:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Did Bugs satisfactorily answer the question I posed of him regarding Nova?
Do you mean
"So why? Why would you say "by the time I asked Katina that I had already started to think Nova was town" when you never really "thought" he was scum to begin with?"
? That whole train of thought?
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On May 24 2012 15:17 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 14:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
Be prepared for VE to call you scum again, whether true or not :p
Since my original post got buried:
Acid, thoughts on Zealos and Tunkeg please, since you ignored talking about them earlier. Perhaps thoughts on froggy and VE as well. Call him scum again? I've explained, in detail, why I think you two are scum TOGETHER. Me calling him scum "again" doesn't prove anything about anyone except that I still believe what I said I believe before dawn. Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 16:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Bugs, I loathe to talk about my reads with you for balance reasons, but everyone else has forsaken us.
How confident are YOU that Nova is scum? I feel like he went limp kinda quick, but aside from that has at least quit posting scummily. Whether that's just because he's quit posting is obviously up for debate. Combined with the fact that he's got so many people going "Meta him bro" and the fact that he's all "Meta me bro" and it just looks really bad.
But something doesn't feel right - like, he seems like TOO easy a target, ya know? This was what I asked after bugs has been asking Katina if she's sure Nova is scum. Here is bugs' following post. Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 04:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sorry all, I became really sick overnight. Feeling quite a bit better now, though.
I'm fine with killing Katina, VE, and mold man, in that order.
Katina normally reads the thread and she usually has more than one read. She also at the very least explains herself to townies. It's clear that she's deliberately ignoring my questions, possibly because she doesn't actually believe in her "case" on Nova (i.e she is scum)
By the time I asked Katina the first time how sure she was of Nova being scum I had started to think he was town. Now, it is day 1, and I may be completely wrong about my assessment, but the way the bandwagons have gone today suggest either that both nova and mouldy are town or that one of them is scum. Based on the nova votes just now I'm inclined to think mouldy is scum.
Of course, we'll never know the truth unless they flip. As there's not much time left in the day I think we should kill mouldy.
If anyone else agrees with me that we should kill Katina or VE, let me know and perhaps we can get a vote switch going. I'll be around till deadline.
##unvote
##vote Mouldy Jeb
PS. Anyone notice that Katina says she hates people using the noob card, but hasn't really expressed suspicion of mouldy? (at least, from what I recall)
Now, I put it to town to decide. Did bugs satisfactorily answer the question that I very specifically and very directly asked bugs? I think not, myself. Bugs would have you believe that I'm "self-centered". Well, let me try again. Here's a question I posed of Bugs. Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
4/15 huh? 2 families of 2 I'm guessing? What do you think Bugs? Does bugs respond? YES HE DOES!!! Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 05:59 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 22 2012 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
4/15 huh? 2 families of 2 I'm guessing? What do you think Bugs? ?? I don't think that's balanced at all; normally a 16 player game has 4 mafia on one team. As this is a 15 player game I would expect that to be true as well. Wait a second...sokaywait....you are only responding to things that matter, right? Didn't you just write: Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 14:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
You say I'm ignoring you because you're either wholly self centered or scum. I address only what's necessary to address and nothing more, because information about reads in the hands of scum causes them to act differently.
Think about ET being shot, and reread some of the only posts made on him. Tunkeg made an ET accusation that was completely ignored. ET was relatively vocal, and from what I recall several people called him town.
Each time you've accused me of ignoring you both in this game and others there's two explanations: I'm afk when you are here or I've already addressed you and you simply don't find it satisfactory. My problem? Not really.
Anyway, if you want to work together then you might as well stop calling me scum, since I'm not. ...the bolded? So in what way does "2 families vs 1 family" balance related question NEED to be addressed? How is that going to help us find scum?
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Alright, got it, I'll collect my thoughts
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I don't have ONE post on Bugs marvel, to get the entirety of my case you have to read my filter marvel. I'm sorry if you don't want to do that, I understand if you're "pressed for time" or whatever, but the whole of my thoughts on Bugs is in my filter...it's not a case, but an ever evolving train of thought that keeps growing more and more certain.
Bugs is scum marvel, and if you don't know why I say so (obviously you don't since you think the whole of my case against bugs revolves around "a narrative that doesn't necessarily have to be the case") then you haven't read my filter, period.
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Why would it be necessary to address a question about nova when I don't include him in my "people I'm fine with killing" list and when I've pursued Katina for so long over whether she actually thinks Nova is scum?
Clearly if I call katina scum at that point it probably means I don't think nova is scum anymore. Or at the very least, that I think others are scummier.
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On May 25 2012 02:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't have ONE post on Bugs marvel, to get the entirety of my case you have to read my filter marvel. I'm sorry if you don't want to do that, I understand if you're "pressed for time" or whatever, but the whole of my thoughts on Bugs is in my filter...it's not a case, but an ever evolving train of thought that keeps growing more and more certain.
Hey now, the reason I didn't find your question easily was because I had to read the multitude of posts in your filter about him, don't get angry at me.
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