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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 30 2012 14:07 GMT
#1261
Who would you have lynched?

Also if you explained it to MZ and he believes you I'm satisfied. I think he's probably town.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 14:08 GMT
#1262
On May 30 2012 22:45 supersoft wrote:
okay how many people took bullets?

MZ took a hit
wherebugsgo took a hit

both of them were saved. Forumite took a hit aswell. Vigs who shot one of them must claim now.

Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote:
Hey guys... I wasn't shot... But strongandbig fell into my trap cause he knew this (Aka his team didn't shoot me)... If the trap failed it would have made scum believe there was a vig shot already used or an sk or something (Aka giving them fake game info) so it seemed like a win-win


this is so strange. Might be scum panicking after he saw that no townplayer died.

I didn't even wait for WBG to claim his hit, how is that panicking... Did you read the post in context to the entire thread or just in my filter or quoted somewhere?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 30 2012 14:09 GMT
#1263
Just saw mattchew's post.

are roles in the OP alignment confirmed like matthew says? The OP says we can have variants of some roles, does that include variant alignment or only variant abilities?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 14:09 GMT
#1264
On May 30 2012 23:07 strongandbig wrote:
Who would you have lynched?

Also if you explained it to MZ and he believes you I'm satisfied. I think he's probably town.

If you think MZ is town then that has to confirm Toad as town being that scum don't have a mason, its a green role
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 30 2012 14:10 GMT
#1265
Cause unless we hear otherwise, I'm assuming we could have variant alignment as well as variant abilities.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 14:13 GMT
#1266
On May 30 2012 23:10 strongandbig wrote:
Cause unless we hear otherwise, I'm assuming we could have variant alignment as well as variant abilities.

I doubt that's possible lol. I read it as "variant of the roles".
As you can see the roles have a very poor description and as I already told you I am the most awesome mason of them all.
I'd say if we have a 2nd mason that guy is another kind of mason.

Something like that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 14:14 GMT
#1267
I mean, the roles are colored
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 14:35 GMT
#1268
Oh someone asked: As already pointed out like 10 times I would have lynched kita or VE. VE only if I felt particularly bold because he's giving me a townread.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 14:35 GMT
#1269
On May 30 2012 23:35 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh someone asked: As already pointed out like 10 times I would have lynched kita or VE. VE only if I felt particularly bold because he's giving me a townVIBE

EBWOP
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
May 30 2012 14:42 GMT
#1270
On May 30 2012 23:08 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 22:45 supersoft wrote:
okay how many people took bullets?

MZ took a hit
wherebugsgo took a hit

both of them were saved. Forumite took a hit aswell. Vigs who shot one of them must claim now.

On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote:
Hey guys... I wasn't shot... But strongandbig fell into my trap cause he knew this (Aka his team didn't shoot me)... If the trap failed it would have made scum believe there was a vig shot already used or an sk or something (Aka giving them fake game info) so it seemed like a win-win


this is so strange. Might be scum panicking after he saw that no townplayer died.

I didn't even wait for WBG to claim his hit, how is that panicking... Did you read the post in context to the entire thread or just in my filter or quoted somewhere?


fuck you okay? I hate to deal with idiots like you. Of course i read that shit in the context. Noone claimes so far. You claimed before any PMs went out that told people they were hit. Scumteam know who they hit. obviously they dont have to wait for claims to know who was hit. WTF dude.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
May 30 2012 14:45 GMT
#1271
On May 30 2012 23:42 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 23:08 Mattchew wrote:
On May 30 2012 22:45 supersoft wrote:
okay how many people took bullets?

MZ took a hit
wherebugsgo took a hit

both of them were saved. Forumite took a hit aswell. Vigs who shot one of them must claim now.

On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote:
Hey guys... I wasn't shot... But strongandbig fell into my trap cause he knew this (Aka his team didn't shoot me)... If the trap failed it would have made scum believe there was a vig shot already used or an sk or something (Aka giving them fake game info) so it seemed like a win-win


this is so strange. Might be scum panicking after he saw that no townplayer died.

I didn't even wait for WBG to claim his hit, how is that panicking... Did you read the post in context to the entire thread or just in my filter or quoted somewhere?


You're so smart. Yes, i read that genius post of you in the context. Noone had claimed so far. In fact, you claimed before any PMs went out that told people they were hit. My stupid assumption is based on the fact that the Scumteam knows who they hit. So obviously they dont have to wait for claims to know who was hit.


EDWOP >:-(
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 14:47 GMT
#1272
Supersoft, what do you think about lynching VE?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 30 2012 14:52 GMT
#1273
Toad, I tried to go back to see your reasoning for a kita lynch but couldn't find anything. Could you please explain?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
May 30 2012 14:54 GMT
#1274
is probably not going to happen today. He's one of the people i have to take a more careful look on, same as kita.
I want wiggles or zealos. But I haven't connected the dots yet. I need some free time to sit down and work on my list.
I really have a hard time to analyze the people with that huge novelstyle posts. Most of it is usually completely useless blabla.
Almost never is anything valuable in it.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 14:59 GMT
#1275
On May 30 2012 23:52 Ange777 wrote:
Toad, I tried to go back to see your reasoning for a kita lynch but couldn't find anything. Could you please explain?

meta reasons. Those are hard to explain so I don't even try to.

I don't think we should lynch wiggles although he is a plain null for me.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 15:04 GMT
#1276
not to mention that I totally agree with Kenpachi.
I think vets are more likely to get the 3rd party roles and frankly foru proves me right.

Those roles are pretty hard to play because you're on your own and they're special as in not how you should normally play.
I doubt Greymist would give the SK, lyncher or assassin to a guy within his first 5 games or something like that. That would be a deathsentence.

Sooooo I'd say the chance to hit mafia / 3rd party within vets is increased and we have good targets in there.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
May 30 2012 15:06 GMT
#1277
Technically it has decreased since the game start due to the foru flip
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 15:11 GMT
#1278
There's still "bound" to be a SK, a lyncher and about 1 mafia within something like:

Kenpachi
kitaman27
Mr. Wiggles
Supersoft
+2 something like 2 semi-vets
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 15:12 GMT
#1279
oh and I missed VE
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 30 2012 15:12 GMT
#1280
Alright. So yesterday I just randomly posted a poorly-organized mess of thoughts on Forumite, because I found him scummy. Today, I wanted to throw out a (hopefully) slightly-less-poorly-organized mess of thoughts on Toadesstern! Please, everyone put on your tinfoil hats.

D1 there were suspicions that Toad might be a lyncher, based upon his mayoral campaign and his odd claim. To the extent that being a lyncher made sense, it was because it looked like Toad's claim was aimed at getting some sort of power early and being able to achieve a win condition quickly.

If we extend that train of thought, we ought to be thinking of alternate win conditions, or maybe the potential for a variant on a power - perhaps he has to do something or mason with someone in order to activate an ability? While lyncher/assassin have targets in order to achieve a win condition, it's not out of the question that some particular role could need to meet a condition (perhaps mason a specific character?) in order to activate an ability.

With that in mind, here are some ramblings!

The band-aid.


Toad made two mentions of a band-aid in his D1 posts. + Show Spoiler +
On May 28 2012 05:28 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 05:21 MajuGarzett wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:13 Toadesstern wrote:
and for the first update (although I'm only on page now and I'm trippleposting): ET seems like a decent lynch right now, but nowhere clear on that one yet.

What suspicions do you have about ET?

mostly the fact that he's posting super manipulative while talking about stuff that is easy to say as mafia as well, which is not an alignment tell at all but it looks like contributing.
He's not making a lot of sense when talking, contradicts himself a little every now an then (or than idk, german lol) while quoting nice posts to completly ignore the "contribution" out of the post and just talk about the 2 lines that are utterly useless which again looks like contribution but really isn't.

But I'm only on page 15 so far and apparently typing with a band-aid on your finger is really hard to do, so I'm having typos all the time when I try to reach for the right side of my keyboard...
On May 28 2012 06:48 Toadesstern wrote:
EBWOP A few typos in there and wrong words. Just pronounce the words and you get the meaning :p
"by" = "buy" and stuff like that lol

It's getting late and the band-aid really make typing really hard which frustrates a lot and therefore I don't doublecheck stuff because it already takes ages to post something like that.


Although we've got
On May 23 2012 07:23 GreYMisT wrote:
You don't need to know about Invader Zim in order to play this game, This is just for the flavor.

that doesn't mean that knowledge of Invader Zim can't be used to hint at things/breadcrumb/etc. The band-aid comments struck me as odd. Is there an Invader Zim character with a band-aid? Yup. Sure is. http://zim.wikia.com/wiki/Invader_Spleen. You know, like, the one on the list of possible character names.

Did anyone else notice the band-aid comments as odd? Does this make sense? Sure, a band-aid on the head =/= band-aid on the finger, but Toad's comment would look incredibly suspicious if he kept referencing a band-aid on his head.


The Second Mason (on the grassy knoll)


Toad also keeps mentioning another Mason
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 29 2012 02:18 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 01:40 papapanda wrote:
Regarding Toad(once again):
For everyone: What is the best method now to pick the next mason? I am thinking letting Toad play out his cards by himself might be the next best option, as he seem to have some withheld information. The other choice is for the town to decide someone for him to invite, but this increases some randomness and can be potentially affect by mafia. Toad, thought?


I will not listen to anyone suggesting a target becaue if I do mafia justs shoots him => I can not confirm my mason role and I am in trouble. I'm thinking of rnd-ing it.
Also there's another mason in this game and he needs to shut the fuck up.

On May 30 2012 23:13 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 23:10 strongandbig wrote:
Cause unless we hear otherwise, I'm assuming we could have variant alignment as well as variant abilities.

I doubt that's possible lol. I read it as "variant of the roles".
As you can see the roles have a very poor description and as I already told you I am the most awesome mason of them all.
I'd say if we have a 2nd mason that guy is another kind of mason.

Something like that.

At one point there IS another mason. Next it's IF there's another mason. Right before the first mention of the second mason, papapanda had posted + Show Spoiler +
On May 29 2012 01:40 papapanda wrote:
I am not sure why we are not using Toad's claim to put him in VP's spot, as if he is the mafia, we could've prove it by day 2. And like I said, during day2, the pardon is basically useless as it cannot be used to pardon himself. Plus the pardon in any other fraction's hands would not be as devastating, even the lyncher.

But by the looks of it, this is not going to happen, so...
Of the leading two presidential candidates, I think MrWiggles have a stronger platform as of now; He clearly stated his lynch candidates.
EchelonTee, can you state a few of your potential lynch target as well?
I know you said that you will base your lynch on what the majority of town says, and that is great; but I feel like that is almost like putting off the blame in case of a mislynch. Imo it will greatly boost you town-credibility if you can pump out a few of your own reads.
Anyhow I will decide who to vote based on your response.

Regarding Toad(once again):
For everyone: What is the best method now to pick the next mason? I am thinking letting Toad play out his cards by himself might be the next best option, as he seem to have some withheld information. The other choice is for the town to decide someone for him to invite, but this increases some randomness and can be potentially affect by mafia. Toad, thought?


Toad's shut the fuck up comment seemed out of place, and was posted shortly after papapanda's question. Potentially talking to papapanda? We're all certain Toad has been withholding information, but for most of us we seem to want to know what magical powers he has or why he isn't roleblockable. papapanda notes only that he has "withheld information," which if you want to get really tinfoil-hattish could be some kind of tell? (Note: I don't feel strongly about that, the papapanda bit is purely grasping at straws. But I want to throw it out here to see if anyone else had similar thoughts).


Da balls


After sending out his PM, Toad was seriously focused on some swollen balls.+ Show Spoiler +
BH should wake with a swallen ball.

that's me masoning you. I kick the guy in the balls who I want to talk with. You should have a PM
So I figured I masoned BH and that's why I posted BH has a swollen ball.
Now I got a PM that MZ is my mason So I kicked him in the balls

That also struck me as odd, but oh well. I couldn't find anything in particular from the show about ball-kickers or ball-kickees. At one point Dib kicks Zim's "squeedly spooch." Which appears more stomach-y than balls. I'm adding this because I found the constant references to be odd, perhaps they're flavor, but he was really, really driving home the ball-kicking.



So for anyone who read that, pull your tinfoil hat down low.
  • Does the band-aid mention look like a hint at a role? If so, he's part of the invader team. That leaves us with either: (1) him looking to find another particular invader, perhaps multiple win conditions within the invader team (Were there multiple invader factions in the show?) or (2) perhaps the invader team starting split up (a la a splinter cell) and attempting to find each other? (2) seems unlikely considering this is a normal game. (1) also seems unlikely considering this is a normal game.
  • Does the second mason bit give anyone thoughts? Perhaps a second player that Toad has to find is also a mason, and when they mason together...they summon Captain Planet?
  • Is Toad's meta particularly testicle-centric?
  • Do you find this all ridiculous given that MZ has stated that Toad is, in fact, a mason?
  • IF you're willing to accept that Toad may have some sort of weird variant role, do these posts concerning variant roles/third party roles feel odd at all?+ Show Spoiler +
    On May 30 2012 23:13 Toadesstern wrote:
    Show nested quote +
    On May 30 2012 23:10 strongandbig wrote:
    Cause unless we hear otherwise, I'm assuming we could have variant alignment as well as variant abilities.

    I doubt that's possible lol. I read it as "variant of the roles".
    As you can see the roles have a very poor description and as I already told you I am the most awesome mason of them all.
    I'd say if we have a 2nd mason that guy is another kind of mason.

    Something like that.

    On May 31 2012 00:04 Toadesstern wrote:
    not to mention that I totally agree with Kenpachi.
    I think vets are more likely to get the 3rd party roles and frankly foru proves me right.

    Those roles are pretty hard to play because you're on your own and they're special as in not how you should normally play.
    I doubt Greymist would give the SK, lyncher or assassin to a guy within his first 5 games or something like that. That would be a deathsentence.

    Sooooo I'd say the chance to hit mafia / 3rd party within vets is increased and we have good targets in there.



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