EPTOn February 24 2012 08:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
herp herp herp herp herp?
herp herp herp herp herp?
You're scum. I'm responding to your case before DocH's. I can't WAIT. It's SOOOO BAD BRO.
I'm actually giddy. ^^
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
You're scum. I'm responding to your case before DocH's. I can't WAIT. It's SOOOO BAD BRO. I'm actually giddy. ^^ | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On February 24 2012 08:56 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh, I believe it - your buddy was actually in danger of dying yesterday, you had to do something right?. XD Who was my vote on at the end of the day | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 24 2012 08:59 Blazinghand wrote: Who was my vote on at the end of the day The guy who didn't die. So shut the fuck up about it. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:00 VisceraEyes wrote: The guy who didn't die. So shut the fuck up about it. well then I didn't really "save my buddy" unless I was saving him by voting for him right | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 24 2012 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote: I think Blazinghand is scum and his vote on BloodyC0bbler serves as a.....fuck, I don't know, like an ANTI-lightning rod. I think it serves to remove credibility from the wagon by his sheer presence, repulsing votes. I think this was planned. Any other dumb questions before I respond to a case brought against me? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Why are you playing like a retard? I know you're better than this Blaze. I played with you as town before, I know you're capable of more. I know you're fucking scum Blaze, why are you pushing me? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On February 24 2012 08:56 VisceraEyes wrote: I love playing with you in games Jackal. You're so fun. Would you like, do me a solid and clarify your read on syllogism for me? I've had him at a town read, but threatening to quit trying looks really bad to me no matter how you slice it. I think you said you want to lynch him right? That still the case? I have a hard time reading people that call me scum continuously. Syllo says I'm playing the way I always play but I need to be lynched. Kita says if he dies I'm scum. Wtf is up with that shit Kita? Syllo has given me the heebie geebies this entire game. Even before he started calling me scum. He's not playing like the Syllo I'm used to. Townie Syllo makes cases. This Syllo is just oozing bs. Kita is not anywhere as active as I'm used to seeing him. That bugs me too. Syllo suggested town made saves or vets were hit. I'm assuming scum have more than 1 KP. I have never seen a game here where scum failed on night one. I think the scum team is mostly inactive. That would be BC, RoL and Kita right off the top of my head. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote: I responded to your question with the quote, and asked you a question. Why are you playing like a retard? I know you're better than this Blaze. I played with you as town before, I know you're capable of more. I know you're fucking scum Blaze, why are you pushing me? Wat where am I pushing you >.> I'm pretty sure you're pushing me and I'm pushing BC lol | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:07 Jackal58 wrote: I have a hard time reading people that call me scum continuously. Syllo says I'm playing the way I always play but I need to be lynched. Kita says if he dies I'm scum. Wtf is up with that shit Kita? Syllo has given me the heebie geebies this entire game. Even before he started calling me scum. He's not playing like the Syllo I'm used to. Townie Syllo makes cases. This Syllo is just oozing bs. Kita is not anywhere as active as I'm used to seeing him. That bugs me too. Syllo suggested town made saves or vets were hit. I'm assuming scum have more than 1 KP. I have never seen a game here where scum failed on night one. I think the scum team is mostly inactive. That would be BC, RoL and Kita right off the top of my head. Well, kita at least promised reasoning later (we'll see). Syllo was one of the only people besides myself actually trying to get BC lynched yesterday...are you of the opinion that one veteran scum is bussing another veteran scum? Do you think that's viable? | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
I think you're somewhat right on how scum hasn't been very active so far. I like RebirthOfLeGenD for now. ##Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
For starters lets look at this post that I just read after catching up on the thread. I will move on to more stuff after it but I feel it should be addressed just due to the sheer level of "wtf" in it. On February 24 2012 08:17 Blazinghand wrote: Alright guys I think we should lynch BC today. Here's the case, which others have made, and which is only stronger over a day later with him not having contributed substantially in the meantime: So here's my case for BC BC opens up like this: + Show Spoiler + On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane. Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles. Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned. as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row. On February 21 2012 11:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote: and yet hes better than you in near every way. What does that say about you? On February 21 2012 11:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I was more referencing the fact your behaving worse than he normally does (he is better than you). As you are being a total douche canoe yet don't carry the level of skill or better than him I was referencing that you were deserving of a far lower and baser title. I am free to let others pick for you as I simply switch to different and more entertaining terms. Now, shall we play instead of focusing on how fun it is that you play in the shallow end of the sandbox all alone. This is BC being mad, unhelpful, and criticising the discussion without legitimately helping or doing anything. This isn't very BC-like and isn't really helping the town at all. Then he's actually kinda noncomittal on redFF: + Show Spoiler + On February 21 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Honestly I think he may be suffering from something like a bat to the back of the head. That or a level of arrogance unseen since showtime. As it stands now short of recommending a terrible idea and being a retarded troll (which is a smiteworthy offense if he keeps it up) I see him more as someone to mock / ignore than take seriously. I know I am moderately guilty of this via my last few posts, however anyone continuing the trend of useless discussion / just trading insults with redff are most likely not playing with town interests in heart. There are a few players already guilty of this obviously. I am currently more intrigued at the people who have let policy discussion run so damn rampant for even this short a duration of a game who (in my mind) should know better. This is actually a worthless post. "He's being bad, mocking poeple, but so am I, there are a few players like this, oh hey look a policy discussion" On February 21 2012 12:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Trolls aren't always flaming asshats. I find that the way you continued talking about policy lynching troll like. The continuing of posts between you and wbg (screams troll from both of you) is bad. I am moderately guilty as well, but as someone who has played with ace for years and as he is not in this game it is moderately disrespectful to trash him. You also said things I viewed as bad  Pushing what I will view as bad agendas or bad forms of play is something I near always comment on. The kettle and the pot calling each other black This is actually semi reasonable but it's an important thing to note to contrast with his next post: Now let's take a look at where we are so far 1) BC hasn't analyzed dick all game 2) redFF claims tracker 3) this causes BC to say "well before the claim he seemed iffy, but claiming tracker means he could be a scum-aligned tracker? maybe there are multiple trackers!" This is possibly the worst reason to get on the redFF wagon I could think of. He then continues to defend himself not with reason but with rage and incoherences, since there's no real reason for his defense. He claims that there's nothing you can really do day 1 in a closed setup, and generally makes excuses. As he avoids the noose, and here's what he promises: And yet here we are, over a day later. Was BC so sure he wouldn't die overnight? Will we see anything at all useful from him today? I don't think there's anything valuable coming out of BC because he's trying to be unvaluable. His attacks were shoddy, his vote on redFF was antireasoned (he provided a reason that was literally bad), and his defense was empty and hollow. And here we are, greeted by crushing silence from him. What's the deal, BC? ##Vote: BloodyC0bbler Now, let me begin with. He starts that analysis with the words "here is the case which others have made." This means he is attempting to once again push a lynch on me. This is more or less moot for the reasons I am commenting however. He is actively pushing a lynch in which the case is not his own. In this regards it is an obvious showing early on to dodge responsibility for said lynch. He then to continue a "case" he begins to rather analyze posts he insteads decides to summarize a game day as if its a valid reasons at analysis. He attempts to misconstrue a post as well where I state I will be active today (as this is day 2) by trying to paint suspicion that I was not around during the night. Given that the read on me is not his own, nor that he is attempting to offer solid reasons to me screams fishy as hell. Pushing a lynch that had garnered alot of attention the day before where not always a bad thing is incredibly fishy coming from a player who could not make up their mind, nor had a good reason to hopping onto it to begin with. However lets move onto some of my reads instead of people I have on my watch list. Risk.nuke This guy is someone who has done nothing to help the town while coming out with stellar posts like On February 23 2012 06:46 risk.nuke wrote: Yeah I don't want to lynch redFF, just got home. So I threw my vote on BC because I like syllo. On February 23 2012 06:54 risk.nuke wrote: God dammit don't lynch a person who claimed tracker day 1. If you have ANY brains. I will link his filter as well for people to continue reading for them selves. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313426&user=76576 Now, why do I mention risk nuke? Simple. The two posts I quoted imo show a high level of anti town sentiment via play. Why you ask? Town has no reason to not spend some time figuring out the main points of a case. Voting once perhaps but given that he was posting at various points throughout the day he would have known the arguments against myself and redff to be able to give an actual opinion on which he felt should be lynched. Actively admitting to sheeping a player without actually justifying a vote is very scumlike in my eyes. Following it up with the "don't lynch someone who claimed tracker day 1" is also very very suspect to me as well. I say this because by allowing someone to claim a role day 1 that is not confirmable via action day 1 only opens them up to potential role tampering. You could get roleblocked, your target always seems to die, your checks mysteriously are wrong, etc.. In these cases said player would ultimately die to town regardless of alignment. It also opens a level of credibility the player does not deserve. People instantly see a role that is normally a pro town role and instantly assume that player is town. If the claim is fake, or the role is in mafia hands this leads to a player being "confirmed" when they in fact are not. Obviously a player could be the role they claimed, but given that you will never be able to confirm their role / alignment without outing another role or killing said player it is never ideal to let them stay alive. Both of the posts I mentioned are extremely suspect in my eyes for reasons I posted, he also has alot of what I would deem fluff posts which are not really helpful in any way. As of now I will say most likely scum and will cement my read as he continues to post. Lets now move onto RoL. My read on RoL is one that is almost solely around meta. His filter is located http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313426&user=41447 My personal experience with a scum RoL is that of a lazy inactive RoL. I think anyone could go back and read a game like plexa's summer mafia (he was mafia) and flamewheels mafia 42(i believe this was the weird mason mechanic game) and compare the difference of a mafia RoL to a town RoL. You could also look at responsibility mafia where he was town as well. RoL as town is normally very active however he is not this game. IF he continues this trend I will heavily push his lynch. I am willing to see how he performs today to determine if he is infact scum. I have a heavy leaning at this moment in time that he is scum based on his general level of inactivity and on the basis that out of all his posts with no commitment to any opinion(except a roleclaim) to any stance while posting useless video or making posts like "hello all" His only real opinion was on why he believed redff had to go which was purely one based on the roleclaim and not based on anything else. Based on inactivity fitting his normal meta + his posts not being as indepth or trying to help the town move in a progression similar to such I believe he is scum. He could come in here and convince me otherwise, but as of now that is my opinion. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote: ##unvote bloodyc0bbler as happy as I am with this result? Whats the reason for this? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
die scum ##vote Blazinghand | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote: ##unvote bloodyc0bbler Well, that didn't take much. I appreciate the effort BC. If your quality of posting stays at least close to the quality of your last post, I can entertain the possibility of lynching others first. What are your thoughts on WBG BC? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:36 VisceraEyes wrote: Well, that didn't take much. I appreciate the effort BC. If your quality of posting stays at least close to the quality of your last post, I can entertain the possibility of lynching others first. What are your thoughts on WBG BC? at the moment an aggressive asshat who needs to shape up or ship out. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote: at the moment an aggressive asshat who needs to shape up or ship out. From what I gather he's always an aggressive asshat | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote: at the moment an aggressive asshat who needs to shape up or ship out. you don't think BH is weird? Or are you not sure if it's mafia-weird or wtf-weird? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote: at the moment an aggressive asshat who needs to shape up or ship out. By your estimation, how much "aggressive asshattery" is it going to take before he's no longer able to "shape up" enough and has to be "shipped out"? That's a really really wishywashy stance on someone who's active when you're largest gripe with RoL is his inactivity sir. | ||
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