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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:08 VisceraEyes wrote: So you agreed with the part about "bandwagons are 99% of the time townie lynches / bussing scum"? You agreed with the "all bandwagons are scum-influenced"? Come on Radfield. Dig deep bro. Of course not. The bandwagon part is silly, and also unimportant. If he was talking about Day 1 bandwagons, then yeah, they're probably scum influenced much of the time, but not really after that. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Why is that unimportant? He's literally saying 'you can't trust anyone pushing for a lynch because they're probably scum'. It's fear-mongering, and it's anti-town. How is that not important? And why would scum not try and influence the lynch on days after day 1? Is it not in their best interest to have townies lynched all game long? | ||
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ProfessorBadass
94 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:12 risk.nuke wrote: Your ignorence just makes you look scum. Tell me you can't think of a single reason in that scenario so palmar can lynch you. I wouldn't get lynched tomorrow. You make it sound like it's in stone but really it's just you three who are idiots or/and mafia. ViceraEye, after your performance today I can call you whatever I want. You should be happy I call you idiot and don't just ignore you. You're worthless and suspected. No I can't think of a single scenario why anyone would want to protect you especially when it is highly likely Arctocod was knocked out of office so he wouldn't get protection. Just looks like flailing scum trying to exert influence in any way he can. Keep digging your own grave buddy. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:23 ProfessorBadass wrote: You're worthless and suspected. No I can't think of a single scenario why anyone would want to protect you especially when it is highly likely Arctocod was knocked out of office so he wouldn't get protection. Just looks like flailing scum trying to exert influence in any way he can. Keep digging your own grave buddy. Maybe you can answer this: why would scum knock out Palmogism rather than Rad, who was leading for Mayor, and therefor had more town-cred (or whatever gets you elected in these things) than Palmogism? Why not knock out the Mayor if they're looking for someone 'dangerous' to them to 'remove protections' from? | ||
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ProfessorBadass
94 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Maybe you can answer this: why would scum knock out Palmogism rather than Rad, who was leading for Mayor, and therefor had more town-cred (or whatever gets you elected in these things) than Palmogism? Why not knock out the Mayor if they're looking for someone 'dangerous' to them to 'remove protections' from? Why would I know that? Maybe they thought two good players > 1. Maybe they think Palmar/syllo are better players than Radfield. I would argue against your Mayor point too, I preferred to put Palmar/syllo as Pardoner over Mayor because I feared Radfield's scum play a lot more. Where are you going with these questions? | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Maybe you can answer this: why would scum knock out Palmogism rather than Rad, who was leading for Mayor, and therefor had more town-cred (or whatever gets you elected in these things) than Palmogism? Why not knock out the Mayor if they're looking for someone 'dangerous' to them to 'remove protections' from? This seems a bit WIFOM to me: because no one knows except for the mafia. Rad could be scum, they may have wanted to target Arc because they were asleep, they wanted pardoner and not mayor, etc etc etc. This is an impossilbe question to answer. | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:11 GreYMisT wrote: From phone: there are a lot more people in this game who are making more sense than you atm risk. Why ask for medic protection? Especially when you have contributed nothing to the game so far. Maybe he is trying to pull medic protection off of someone that would be more heavily influencing in the game? "Protect me, protect me!" ***mafia hit more useful player***. Maybe. + Show Spoiler + On December 15 2011 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote: Arcto made it pretty clear that he didn't know who it was from - asking everyone to 'pretend to know what he's talking about' so he could determine who sent it. Okay, I see what's happening now. Might as well address this right now, before someone starts a train on me. Since GiygaS already stated that it was him, I felt that trying to get Arcto the proper information at that time would have been a fairly important result of whatever was on his mind. Because of this, I blatantly lied in the post (totally against my earlier post) of Lynch all Liars (don't want to get back into it) to confuse the mafia up a bit. Yeah, I backtracked myself. I think the positives would have outweighed the benefits. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Maybe you can answer this: why would scum knock out Palmogism rather than Rad, who was leading for Mayor, and therefor had more town-cred (or whatever gets you elected in these things) than Palmogism? Why not knock out the Mayor if they're looking for someone 'dangerous' to them to 'remove protections' from? Radfield could be mafia. Just saying. He played a terrible towngame last night, and if both arctocod and radfield were town why did mafia choose arctocod and not radfield who at the time looked more town then arcto. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:30 ProfessorBadass wrote: Why would I know that? Maybe they thought two good players > 1. Maybe they think Palmar/syllo are better players than Radfield. I would argue against your Mayor point too, I preferred to put Palmar/syllo as Pardoner over Mayor because I feared Radfield's scum play a lot more. Where are you going with these questions? I didn't say you would 'know' that, I was asking if you could think of any scum motivations for it. I haven't played ANY election games, so I'm struggling with the nuances of the setup. And I'm not going anywhere, I'm just trying to make sense of the recent events. | ||
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ProfessorBadass
94 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:33 risk.nuke wrote: Radfield could be mafia. Just saying. He played a terrible towngame last night, and if both arctocod and radfield were town why did mafia choose arctocod and not radfield who at the time looked more town then arcto. lol what? Radfield's play last night was disagreeing with Nisani and MrZentor lynches (something you agreed with him on as well). He agreed on the Spaackles case which I felt was the best (duh, I posted it). So to play less bad he should've made random statements about GreyMist saying he had a gut feeling he was scum right? Your posts get more and more ridiculous. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:36 ProfessorBadass wrote: lol what? Radfield's play last night was disagreeing with Nisani and MrZentor lynches (something you agreed with him on as well). He agreed on the Spaackles case which I felt was the best (duh, I posted it). So to play less bad he should've made random statements about GreyMist saying he had a gut feeling he was scum right? Your posts get more and more ridiculous. Radfields play last night, was not doing a shit or comment on anything significant untill the last minute where he decided the lynch. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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MarserBlood
Netherlands28 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:38 risk.nuke wrote: Radfields play last night, was not doing a shit or comment on anything significant untill the last minute where he decided the lynch. I think that is not true, i skimmed trough radfields posts and this are the things he said after the whole arctocodthing: - One post he said that proffesorbadass should be pardoner and that we shouldnt lynch zentor because he softclaimed blue. - one post that we should discuss who to lynch -further posts concerning who to lynch -finally posting we should lynch spaackle. So he was active and trying to create a good hunch for a lynch, which is pretty significant. I think its rather good to lynch the last second, because that way you have the most information, especially when time runs that thin. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:53 bumatlarge wrote: What was the arcotod withdrawal about? And is the night not over? Eiii was just killed by a instant vig or something? He was apparently 'force withdrawn' or something...yes, night ends in like 2 or 3 hours (I can never figure out exactly when this shit happens XD) and yes, Eiii just died to a day-vig controlled by Palmogism supplied by GiygaS. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:53 bumatlarge wrote: What was the arcotod withdrawal about? And is the night not over? Eiii was just killed by a instant vig or something? We belive scum used a special abillity to force Arctocod to withdraw. As of now it is not clear wether the abillity was to create a fake post, Withdraw the candidate or just nullify all votes. The night is not over. Giygas had some mailman abillitys that he used to privately tell Arctocod that he could kill a person. Arctocod then told Giygas to send the letter-bomb (which if opened kills the reciever) to eiii. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:38 risk.nuke wrote: Radfields play last night, was not doing a shit or comment on anything significant untill the last minute where he decided the lynch. Thanks dude. I got on when I could and I did what I could. I'm not a superhero. I don't magically make good Day 1 lynches appear. On December 15 2011 10:16 VisceraEyes wrote: But you said you agreed with it completely, man. This is what I'm talking about when I say you're being the most suspicious of the vets (although Palmogism is creeping up there)...because you're speaking in half-truths. Why is that unimportant? He's literally saying 'you can't trust anyone pushing for a lynch because they're probably scum'. It's fear-mongering, and it's anti-town. How is that not important? And why would scum not try and influence the lynch on days after day 1? Is it not in their best interest to have townies lynched all game long? I am going to write this as if you are town, if you are mafia feel free to ignore. The reason some people don't take you seriously is because of comments like this. You are honing in on my use of 1 word, "completely", and ignoring whats going on around it. You're scum finding metrics are off because you hone in on every little thing. It's like you're going out of your way to be confrontational with every single post. You're not trying to get reads, you're just trying to push push push. I mean, you're not even talking about anything here.... /end lecture It was unimportant because it was irrelevant, and an exaggeration. When I said I 'completely' agreed with that post, I didn't even know the bandwagon part was there. Why? Because I skim read that part and promptly ignored it. Just like you should have. His post was about how Nisani and Zentor were easy places for mafia to hide, and that people sticking their votes on were furthering mafia agenda. I don't disagree, as both were very likely to flip green at that stage. The rest was him making an incorrect exaggeration about bandwagons... Obviously scum try to influence bandwagons on all days, but it's on Day 1 where they are most effective at guiding the lynch. After that I would say most bandwagons are driven by town play. Happy we cleared that up? | ||
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MarserBlood
Netherlands28 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:53 bumatlarge wrote: What was the arcotod withdrawal about? And is the night not over? Eiii was just killed by a instant vig or something? Radfield and arcotod were running for mayor and pardoner respectively, some hours before the deadline arcotod withdrew is candidacy so there was no-one running for pardoner. That withdrawal was very likely a scumaction to prevent him from getting that role. The night is over in 1 hour, and yes i believe eii was just killed by a role, presumably from giyas. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:58 risk.nuke wrote: We belive scum used a special abillity to force Arctocod to withdraw. As of now it is not clear wether the abillity was to create a fake post, Withdraw the candidate or just nullify all votes. The night is not over. Giygas had some mailman abillitys that he used to privately tell Arctocod that he could kill a person. Arctocod then told Giygas to send the letter-bomb (which if opened kills the reciever) to eiii. Actually it's clear at this point that Arctocod WAS withdrawn from the election, as all votes cast for them were nullified by the host. | ||
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