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Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
August 23 2011 16:29 GMT
#61
Nonononono please don't actually vote Palmar for that I've seen way too many people get lynched for one-off supposed "scumslips" that ended up being town, on the other hand

##Vote: Jackal58

OMGUS
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
August 23 2011 16:30 GMT
#62
Oh whoops I didn't refresh the thread and see Jackal's most recent post

##Unvote
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
August 23 2011 16:49 GMT
#63
We have no investigative roles, the way I see it our best chance is to vote for people from the get-go
That said

##Vote: Navillus

Because he was the first person to talk about being a townie.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
August 23 2011 16:52 GMT
#64
Wait, on second thought I'm going to

##Unvote

##Vote: Navillus

If he feels the need to convince Jackal he's a townie, I think it's more likely that he's not actually a townie.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
August 23 2011 16:52 GMT
#65
DERP

##Unvote

##Vote: Palmar

Didn't edit the name when I copy pasta'd it.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 23 2011 17:27 GMT
#66
I never believe Palmar is a townie. At least not on day 1 or 2. Unless he starts quoting Shakespeare.
So ya Palmar made a joke at my expense. I wouldn't use that as a basis to get him killed. At least not yet anyways.
Life can only kill you once.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 23 2011 17:42 GMT
#67
Soo you have the means to get him killed? interesting...
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 23 2011 17:44 GMT
#68
Lynched ya maroon.
Life can only kill you once.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 23 2011 17:51 GMT
#69
##Vote: Eiii Where you at?


Killing Eldricht would be nice to get rid of the third party, but it's not the biggest priority for town on Day 1, because it takes him a while to achieve his win condition. (Like at least 7 nights if greens aren't killed/lynched, unrealistic, I know, but just an example) As well, we have the psychologist who can cure insanity.

So, to talk about the set-up a little, do people think it would be a good idea for the psychologist to claim his target at the end of night 1? It makes the psychologist claim early, but that way if he dies, then we have probably found the Eldricht Horror. The only way this wouldn't be the case, would be if mafia shot him, but then he could just claim earlier. (Because mafia don't really want to shoot him right away without reason, as he keeps them from losing the game to insanity as well)

There's both Pro's and Con's to this, and it depends on the relative threat that we perceive the Eldricht Horror as.

Pros:

-Lets us catch the Eldricht Horror more easily, knowing as soon as the Psychologist dies.
-Let's us coordinate the Psychologist a little (don't know if this is necessary)

Cons:

-Mafia know not to shoot the Psychologist, reducing the pool of townies (1 person so not that terrible)
-Mafia can screw with town by killing the Psychologist and trying for a mislynch on his target.

Personally, I don't really think it's worth it after actually writing out the Pros and Cons, but I don't think I'm going to delete this post because I spent like 5 minutes writing it, and it provides a good start for actual discussion. In my opinion, a better option is actually having the psychologist bread-crumb his visits, so that way, if he ever dies and flips, then we have a list of players cleared of being the Eldricht Horror, and we have a possible target for who the Third Party actually is.

Discuss!
you gotta dance
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 23 2011 17:57 GMT
#70
Thing is , how easy is it for ANYONE to claim psychologist and be untouched unlessthe true psychologist comes forward and then stuff will just get messy?
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
August 23 2011 17:58 GMT
#71
Is there a mayoral campaign?
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 18:19:17
August 23 2011 18:01 GMT
#72
On August 24 2011 02:58 tnkted wrote:
Is there a mayoral campaign?

Nope.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 23 2011 18:04 GMT
#73
On August 24 2011 02:57 Erandorr wrote:
Thing is , how easy is it for ANYONE to claim psychologist and be untouched unlessthe true psychologist comes forward and then stuff will just get messy?


Then we have a confirmed scum, and a 1-1 trade with mafia, which benefits town. (No way eldricht would be that stupid).

Also, looking at the OP again, I think that our Doctors should also breadcrumb their visits, because insanity is revealed on flip as well, and along with the psychologist, we can cross-reference to find the eldricht horror.

As well, all townies should maybe put fake breadcrumbs into their posts, because that way mafia can't blue-snipe by finding all the breadcrumbs. Then, we just ignore any crumbs, until that person flips or claims.

you gotta dance
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 23 2011 18:06 GMT
#74
Oh btw Wiggles I just reread the OP and whoever is Psy. should not claim . You didnt think it through. Psy claims -> Aldrich visits FIRST -> psy dies -> the end and aldrich will have his way.

Am I correct with the rule part?

Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 23 2011 18:08 GMT
#75
On August 24 2011 03:06 Erandorr wrote:
Oh btw Wiggles I just reread the OP and whoever is Psy. should not claim . You didnt think it through. Psy claims -> Aldrich visits FIRST -> psy dies -> the end and aldrich will have his way.

Am I correct with the rule part?



Oh, missed that too. Doesn't matter though, because I realized him claiming is a bad idea anyways. :p
you gotta dance
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
August 23 2011 18:10 GMT
#76
On August 24 2011 02:57 Erandorr wrote:
Thing is , how easy is it for ANYONE to claim psychologist and be untouched unlessthe true psychologist comes forward and then stuff will just get messy?


There are lots of gambits that scum can play by claiming psych, or killing the psych, etc. I don't think psych should claim at all until late game, and if he's killed we need to be very careful with our vigs and medics.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
August 23 2011 18:15 GMT
#77
Wait a minute.

how does insanity effect mafia? Do their kills fail or something?
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 18:40:19
August 23 2011 18:18 GMT
#78
@Erandorr
Am I correct with the rule part?

Your statement is correct.

@tnkted
how does insanity effect mafia? Do their kills fail or something?

Insanity will not have negative effect on mafia (check OP for extra info), except that when insane mafia targets Eldritch Abomination their hit will fail (check EA role PM to see what happens when sane mafia targets EA for NK).
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
August 23 2011 18:21 GMT
#79
What if we just have everyone claim they checked someone everyday
so that way the psych doesn't have to claim but when he dies we can go back and see who he has checked.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
August 23 2011 18:29 GMT
#80
There is no reason to claim psychologist, we need him to cure doc if doc goes mad, but the horror will obviously go straight for him post-claim, cause a suicide and that's the end of the eldritch's problems
And the doc can't reveal because the mafia will target him

Wait, didn't someone say something about the doc debuff being cancelled because of the extra mafia? Or was that not official? And while I'm talking about a docs powers, doc cant heal the psychologist from suicide can he?

as far as I can tell, this is a game of all claiming townie and praying the lynches work in our favour
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
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