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Foolishness
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 14 2011 12:14 Protactinium wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
coagulation is not a power player I can't see any mafia faking a DT claim to save a lynch on coagulation. that's pretty desperate play especially considering how much dissent there already is to the lynch:
and the fact that mafia has no reason to try to get protactinium lynched/killed if they believe he is the assassin (unlike the reasons they would have to keep him out of office) Incorrect. Coagulation is a key player for the mafia. It's not that he's a good player, it's that mafia have already committed to saving him. Look back at the thread. Ever since my Coagulation accusation, mafia have been trying to subtly redirect the lynch. Notice how people are "not convinced" that Coagulation is mafia, try to suggest that we let me die tonight to "prove" that Coagulation is innocent, and try to suggest other targets. Yet notice the divergence in the voting thread. The voting is overwhelmingly in favor of lynching Coagulation, yet the debate in the thread diverges sharply. This is not an accident. Notice how nobody was doing any real analysis before I popped up and accused Coagulation. Mafia felt no need to fear when they thought I was as good as dead. But when I post a strong analysis, they reacted. They reacted not by refuting my points, but by flooding the thread with alternative accusations trying to derail the lynch. Why? They don't know who to push. They know the Coagulation analysis is a strong one, so they need to offer a target that town will readily buy. They're trying to test the waters and see what lynch works. Obviously, Coagulation is Mafia. If he were anything but, Mafia would be content to let him die and would have never felt the need to defend him in the first place. It is certain that mafia defended him originally, as shown by the floods of alternative target suggestions. Your so-called "analyst" Pardoner doesn't do anything but fling mud at me for the better part of a day. Yet when I return and start decimating his attempt to derail the lynch, he panics and decides to fake claim DT in a desperate attempt to make the town back out. Oh, and not to mention he does a bogus ultimatum in which he makes a shoddy attempt to discredit my DT claim. GMarshal's DT claim as Mafia makes total sense. He can't be rolechecked, and given the situation the mafia is in, he needs to do something to stop the Coagulation lynch. Furthermore, he knows who the mafia are, so it isn't that difficult to solidify his position later on in the game. Just look back at GMarshal's behavior. Its clearly scumlike. He was elected on a platform of being a "good analyzer", but he has done nothing but fling mud, spread doubt, and make a few half hearted attempts at analysis. GMarshal has something to hide, since he is obviously mafia. Mafia have every reason to save Coagulation now because they've already committed to the lynch. Too many people are coming out accusing people of being mafia. Mafia felt pressured, and were forced to make a big move. Mafia got overconfident and thought they could discredit me because I switched claims. Unfortunately for them it failed.
Jeez Ver at least be on AIM while you're posting so I can talk to you...
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On April 14 2011 11:14 Coagulation wrote:
Hey flamewheel why you such a fucking lier?
Also, consider this your last warning. Any more personal attacks like this will result in modkill.
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On April 14 2011 12:23 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:28 chaoser wrote:
BrownBear Does DT checks give back alignment or roles? Role, from which alignment can be inferred.
Well that's it then.
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On April 14 2011 12:16 GMarshal wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 14 2011 12:14 Protactinium wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
coagulation is not a power player I can't see any mafia faking a DT claim to save a lynch on coagulation. that's pretty desperate play especially considering how much dissent there already is to the lynch:
and the fact that mafia has no reason to try to get protactinium lynched/killed if they believe he is the assassin (unlike the reasons they would have to keep him out of office) Incorrect. Coagulation is a key player for the mafia. It's not that he's a good player, it's that mafia have already committed to saving him. Look back at the thread. Ever since my Coagulation accusation, mafia have been trying to subtly redirect the lynch. Notice how people are "not convinced" that Coagulation is mafia, try to suggest that we let me die tonight to "prove" that Coagulation is innocent, and try to suggest other targets. Yet notice the divergence in the voting thread. The voting is overwhelmingly in favor of lynching Coagulation, yet the debate in the thread diverges sharply. This is not an accident. Notice how nobody was doing any real analysis before I popped up and accused Coagulation. Mafia felt no need to fear when they thought I was as good as dead. But when I post a strong analysis, they reacted. They reacted not by refuting my points, but by flooding the thread with alternative accusations trying to derail the lynch. Why? They don't know who to push. They know the Coagulation analysis is a strong one, so they need to offer a target that town will readily buy. They're trying to test the waters and see what lynch works. Obviously, Coagulation is Mafia. If he were anything but, Mafia would be content to let him die and would have never felt the need to defend him in the first place. It is certain that mafia defended him originally, as shown by the floods of alternative target suggestions. Your so-called "analyst" Pardoner doesn't do anything but fling mud at me for the better part of a day. Yet when I return and start decimating his attempt to derail the lynch, he panics and decides to fake claim DT in a desperate attempt to make the town back out. Oh, and not to mention he does a bogus ultimatum in which he makes a shoddy attempt to discredit my DT claim. GMarshal's DT claim as Mafia makes total sense. He can't be rolechecked, and given the situation the mafia is in, he needs to do something to stop the Coagulation lynch. Furthermore, he knows who the mafia are, so it isn't that difficult to solidify his position later on in the game. Just look back at GMarshal's behavior. Its clearly scumlike. He was elected on a platform of being a "good analyzer", but he has done nothing but fling mud, spread doubt, and make a few half hearted attempts at analysis. GMarshal has something to hide, since he is obviously mafia. Mafia have every reason to save Coagulation now because they've already committed to the lynch. Too many people are coming out accusing people of being mafia. Mafia felt pressured, and were forced to make a big move. Mafia got overconfident and thought they could discredit me because I switched claims. Unfortunately for them it failed. ^__^
If you're going to ignore him, just ignore him. Being glib is just spiteful and doesn't do anything helpful.
Prot, you actually haven't given a convincing reason why we can't just let Coag get handled in the night and either pop up blue or red. It's fairly unlikely at this point you're going to be able to convince everyone that just all of this fell into place by your masterful planning.
It's probably best to use the day to deal with a different target.
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On April 14 2011 12:23 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:28 chaoser wrote:
BrownBear Does DT checks give back alignment or roles? Role, from which alignment can be inferred.
Boom. Why would protact not include a role in his original dt claim and coag FOS. Protact is obv lying and trying to find a way to get protected. WHY DOES ANYONE BELIEVE IN THE SLIGHTEST WHAT HE IS FUCKING SAYING. HEY IM ASSASSIN, VOTE ME FOR MAYOR!!! HEY I DIDNT GET BODYGUARDS BUT NOW EVERYONE KNOWS I AM ASSASSIN. GUESS WUT??? I WAS FUCKING WITH YOU GUYS IM ACTUALLY DT AND MY BIGGEST CRITIC IS MAFIA :D:D:D. I COULD HAVE JUST NOT CLAIMED ANYTHING AND BEEN VOTED IN TO OFFICE AS TOWN BUT naww. What the fuck. read that and tell me it makes sense. you can't
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So we lynch someone scummy, if prot flips DT we can deal with GM/Coag then.
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On April 14 2011 12:29 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 12:23 BrownBear wrote:On April 14 2011 11:28 chaoser wrote:
BrownBear Does DT checks give back alignment or roles? Role, from which alignment can be inferred. Boom. Why would protact not include a role in his original dt claim and coag FOS. Protact is obv lying and trying to find a way to get protected. WHY DOES ANYONE BELIEVE IN THE SLIGHTEST WHAT HE IS FUCKING SAYING. HEY IM ASSASSIN, VOTE ME FOR MAYOR!!! HEY I DIDNT GET BODYGUARDS BUT NOW EVERYONE KNOWS I AM ASSASSIN. GUESS WUT??? I WAS FUCKING WITH YOU GUYS IM ACTUALLY DT AND MY BIGGEST CRITIC IS MAFIA :D:D:D. I COULD HAVE JUST NOT CLAIMED ANYTHING AND BEEN VOTED IN TO OFFICE AS TOWN BUT naww. What the fuck. read that and tell me it makes sense. you can't
It's against the rules to log onto someone else's account, Coagulation.
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On April 14 2011 12:32 chaoser wrote:
So we lynch someone scummy, if prot flips DT we can deal with GM/Coag then.
Yup, should have been what we were doing before GM totally shut down prot completely.
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On April 14 2011 12:24 Foolishness wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 14 2011 12:14 Protactinium wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
coagulation is not a power player I can't see any mafia faking a DT claim to save a lynch on coagulation. that's pretty desperate play especially considering how much dissent there already is to the lynch:
and the fact that mafia has no reason to try to get protactinium lynched/killed if they believe he is the assassin (unlike the reasons they would have to keep him out of office) Incorrect. Coagulation is a key player for the mafia. It's not that he's a good player, it's that mafia have already committed to saving him. Look back at the thread. Ever since my Coagulation accusation, mafia have been trying to subtly redirect the lynch. Notice how people are "not convinced" that Coagulation is mafia, try to suggest that we let me die tonight to "prove" that Coagulation is innocent, and try to suggest other targets. Yet notice the divergence in the voting thread. The voting is overwhelmingly in favor of lynching Coagulation, yet the debate in the thread diverges sharply. This is not an accident. Notice how nobody was doing any real analysis before I popped up and accused Coagulation. Mafia felt no need to fear when they thought I was as good as dead. But when I post a strong analysis, they reacted. They reacted not by refuting my points, but by flooding the thread with alternative accusations trying to derail the lynch. Why? They don't know who to push. They know the Coagulation analysis is a strong one, so they need to offer a target that town will readily buy. They're trying to test the waters and see what lynch works. Obviously, Coagulation is Mafia. If he were anything but, Mafia would be content to let him die and would have never felt the need to defend him in the first place. It is certain that mafia defended him originally, as shown by the floods of alternative target suggestions. Your so-called "analyst" Pardoner doesn't do anything but fling mud at me for the better part of a day. Yet when I return and start decimating his attempt to derail the lynch, he panics and decides to fake claim DT in a desperate attempt to make the town back out. Oh, and not to mention he does a bogus ultimatum in which he makes a shoddy attempt to discredit my DT claim. GMarshal's DT claim as Mafia makes total sense. He can't be rolechecked, and given the situation the mafia is in, he needs to do something to stop the Coagulation lynch. Furthermore, he knows who the mafia are, so it isn't that difficult to solidify his position later on in the game. Just look back at GMarshal's behavior. Its clearly scumlike. He was elected on a platform of being a "good analyzer", but he has done nothing but fling mud, spread doubt, and make a few half hearted attempts at analysis. GMarshal has something to hide, since he is obviously mafia. Mafia have every reason to save Coagulation now because they've already committed to the lynch. Too many people are coming out accusing people of being mafia. Mafia felt pressured, and were forced to make a big move. Mafia got overconfident and thought they could discredit me because I switched claims. Unfortunately for them it failed. Jeez Ver at least be on AIM while you're posting so I can talk to you...
Incog tbh
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 14 2011 12:22 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 12:01 kitaman27 wrote:Another person I think we should look at: MetalFace
I played with this guy as scum and he was a horrible, horrible lurker. Here are some gems so far: On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
Ideally we want a townie as mayor. Worst case scenario is mafia get mayor. I'd say a third party getting mayor falls in between these two. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing who is who. On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
Pretty much, the big power of the mayor is the first day lynch and the subsequent triple vote count. On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
Also, remember that an assassin mayor is not ideal; a townie mayor is. From his previous game, I think this post speaks a lot to his approach as scum. On October 22 2010 23:08 MetalFace wrote:
This is my first time playing and I didn't want to screw myself over by saying something dumb OMG YES, he has 3 posts in this thread and his signup. Let's look at them. Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 11:23 redFF wrote:On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:This thread blew up way too fast. So much spam to sift through...  Anyways, I think it's important to look at how people have reacted to the Protactinium Campaign. Ideally we want a townie as mayor. Worst case scenario is mafia get mayor. I'd say a third party getting mayor falls in between these two. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing who is who. So, for a second, let's just assume he is, in fact, an assassin. People who want him in think that he would benefit their faction more than the opposing. So let's see how an assassin mayor would actually affect the game. Pretty much, the big power of the mayor is the first day lynch and the subsequent triple vote count. Who, then, is he likely to kill? His kill priorities, as I see it, are as follows: A) Other assassins B) Mafia C) Townies Why? Well, A is obvious. He wants to win, and needs to kill the other assassins. B and C, though, are tricky. The mayor can only die in one of 2 ways: the bodyguards are eliminated and then the mayor is vulnerable to night attacks, OR, the mayor is lynched. The bodyguards will presumably remain anonymous, so that Protactinium can protect himself. Therefore, it is unlikely they will be quickly expended.* Protactinium's biggest concern, then, is the town lynching him. Townies hold a majority vote, and if Protactinium doesn't act in a clearly pro-town way, then he will be lynched. Essentially, if he doesn't act pro-town he will lose. Thus, an assassin mayor would benefit the town and hurt the mafia, and would be supported by townies and attacked by scum in the election. *A situation may occur where assassins may try to kill off the bodyguards in an attempt to make Protactinium vulnerable. This is in my mind unlikely, because an assassin would have to waste kills. To be honest though, I am not entirely sure how this would affect the game as a whole. It is for this reason that I am still thinking about who to vote for. Also, remember that an assassin mayor is not ideal; a townie mayor is. Hopefully a townie can sweet talk the rest of us to voting him in, but with all the idiotic spamming and name calling going on, it's awful tough to trust anyone right now. I gotta think about this more... This is your first post in this thread. You state the obvious, use a lot of filler sentences, and repeat pretty much exactly what other people have said e.g. you talk about how if protact were mayor he would be in a LYLO situation, something you would know has been already discussed if you actually read the thread. So assuming you have read the thread you seem to be posting without contributing. I actually responded to it already when it was posted, now that it is relevant again i can bring attention to it. There is no fucking direction or contribution to this opening post. Now let's look at every other post he made in this thread... Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 12:15 MetalFace wrote:On April 11 2011 11:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Posts like the ones MetalHead just made are pretty scummy imo, you have to look past the "wordswordswordswordswords" and think about what the direction of their post is. His post had no direction other than to appear contributive. That's not good. My direction was the implication that people who attacked Protactinium's campaign have scummy motives. Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 23:38 MetalFace wrote:
After sleeping with it, I'm voting for Protactinium. Pretty much for the reasons I said before. Plus, my gut is telling me not to trust anyone else.
##Vote: Protactinium He says that his direction was that people who attacked protact's campaign had scummy motives. Who had said the exact same thing? Protact had, he is simply mimicking what protact had already wrote. Kita actually summed it up quite nicely with those quotes of him stating the obvious. He hasn't posted since that vote for protact. No reaction to the assassin he voted for mayor claiming dt. Lurking bigtime because he is afraid of someone reading him as scum? Already happened bro, gotta come out and post now.
Hey, cool. Sorry I don't post a ton. Don't have access to a computer at all times of the day and this thread fills up faster than you'd think 
And if you're upset that I haven't come in yet with some groundbreaking analysis or huge lead, well, you who played with me last time can attest that I'm actually just not that great at the game. And, unfortunately, as I think of things, people seem to have posted it before I get the chance.
Anywho, I think Prot is full of crap. Someone else mentioned it but I think it's true that he is actually just an assassin who is upset he didn't get immunity from becoming mayor, so now he needs a new lie to keep himself alive. I think Lynch All Liars should be applied here and we should just out him now, but apparently other people think differently. There's a lot of pointless arguing right now. Just kill Prot.
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On April 14 2011 12:49 MetalFace wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 14 2011 12:22 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 12:01 kitaman27 wrote:Another person I think we should look at: MetalFace
I played with this guy as scum and he was a horrible, horrible lurker. Here are some gems so far: On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
Ideally we want a townie as mayor. Worst case scenario is mafia get mayor. I'd say a third party getting mayor falls in between these two. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing who is who. On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
Pretty much, the big power of the mayor is the first day lynch and the subsequent triple vote count. On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:
Also, remember that an assassin mayor is not ideal; a townie mayor is. From his previous game, I think this post speaks a lot to his approach as scum. On October 22 2010 23:08 MetalFace wrote:
This is my first time playing and I didn't want to screw myself over by saying something dumb OMG YES, he has 3 posts in this thread and his signup. Let's look at them. Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 11:23 redFF wrote:On April 11 2011 11:15 MetalFace wrote:This thread blew up way too fast. So much spam to sift through... Anyways, I think it's important to look at how people have reacted to the Protactinium Campaign. Ideally we want a townie as mayor. Worst case scenario is mafia get mayor. I'd say a third party getting mayor falls in between these two. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing who is who. So, for a second, let's just assume he is, in fact, an assassin. People who want him in think that he would benefit their faction more than the opposing. So let's see how an assassin mayor would actually affect the game. Pretty much, the big power of the mayor is the first day lynch and the subsequent triple vote count. Who, then, is he likely to kill? His kill priorities, as I see it, are as follows: A) Other assassins B) Mafia C) Townies Why? Well, A is obvious. He wants to win, and needs to kill the other assassins. B and C, though, are tricky. The mayor can only die in one of 2 ways: the bodyguards are eliminated and then the mayor is vulnerable to night attacks, OR, the mayor is lynched. The bodyguards will presumably remain anonymous, so that Protactinium can protect himself. Therefore, it is unlikely they will be quickly expended.* Protactinium's biggest concern, then, is the town lynching him. Townies hold a majority vote, and if Protactinium doesn't act in a clearly pro-town way, then he will be lynched. Essentially, if he doesn't act pro-town he will lose. Thus, an assassin mayor would benefit the town and hurt the mafia, and would be supported by townies and attacked by scum in the election. *A situation may occur where assassins may try to kill off the bodyguards in an attempt to make Protactinium vulnerable. This is in my mind unlikely, because an assassin would have to waste kills. To be honest though, I am not entirely sure how this would affect the game as a whole. It is for this reason that I am still thinking about who to vote for. Also, remember that an assassin mayor is not ideal; a townie mayor is. Hopefully a townie can sweet talk the rest of us to voting him in, but with all the idiotic spamming and name calling going on, it's awful tough to trust anyone right now. I gotta think about this more... This is your first post in this thread. You state the obvious, use a lot of filler sentences, and repeat pretty much exactly what other people have said e.g. you talk about how if protact were mayor he would be in a LYLO situation, something you would know has been already discussed if you actually read the thread. So assuming you have read the thread you seem to be posting without contributing. I actually responded to it already when it was posted, now that it is relevant again i can bring attention to it. There is no fucking direction or contribution to this opening post. Now let's look at every other post he made in this thread... Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 12:15 MetalFace wrote:On April 11 2011 11:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Posts like the ones MetalHead just made are pretty scummy imo, you have to look past the "wordswordswordswordswords" and think about what the direction of their post is. His post had no direction other than to appear contributive. That's not good. My direction was the implication that people who attacked Protactinium's campaign have scummy motives. Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 23:38 MetalFace wrote:
After sleeping with it, I'm voting for Protactinium. Pretty much for the reasons I said before. Plus, my gut is telling me not to trust anyone else.
##Vote: Protactinium He says that his direction was that people who attacked protact's campaign had scummy motives. Who had said the exact same thing? Protact had, he is simply mimicking what protact had already wrote. Kita actually summed it up quite nicely with those quotes of him stating the obvious. He hasn't posted since that vote for protact. No reaction to the assassin he voted for mayor claiming dt. Lurking bigtime because he is afraid of someone reading him as scum? Already happened bro, gotta come out and post now. Hey, cool. Sorry I don't post a ton. Don't have access to a computer at all times of the day and this thread fills up faster than you'd think And if you're upset that I haven't come in yet with some groundbreaking analysis or huge lead, well, you who played with me last time can attest that I'm actually just not that great at the game. And, unfortunately, as I think of things, people seem to have posted it before I get the chance. Anywho, I think Prot is full of crap. Someone else mentioned it but I think it's true that he is actually just an assassin who is upset he didn't get immunity from becoming mayor, so now he needs a new lie to keep himself alive. I think Lynch All Liars should be applied here and we should just out him now, but apparently other people think differently. There's a lot of pointless arguing right now. Just kill Prot.
Hot damn you showed up fast
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Yeah, late night's good for me. Yay college?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On April 14 2011 12:54 MetalFace wrote:
Yeah, late night's good for me. Yay college?
You think prot is an assassin, yet you want to lynch him. Could you explain why you think that benefits the town?
Also, could you please provide at least one other person you would like to see dead, with reasoning?
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On April 14 2011 11:55 GMarshal wrote:
In my mind the point raised against coag was "prot is a DT, he got back a check saying he is red, lynch coag!" As to his analysis I have no real reply because I can't read coag at all, I read his posts and wonder if he is drunk, and then move on with my life. I simply think that that analysis is going to be biased anyway because this is prots last night on earth.
Here's the cop out. The truth is, he doesn't respond to the analysis because he can't. He knows Coagulation is mafia. If you take a step back and think about motive, GMarshal has been way more shady than I have. I have been completely transparent and have been completely honest with you and have revealed all my plans to you. On the other hand, GMarshal has nothing to show for his empty words.
Think about GMarshal's overall profile. What is he trying to do? From day 1, notice how he does not express support for any candidate other than himself. Why? It seems that every other candidate was expressing who they wanted in office and why. It is extremely important for town to pick good elected officials. Yet GMarshal did nothing of the sort, and didn't say who he wanted to win election, besides himself. Yet he had no trouble in saying who he thought shouldn't be elected. It's obvious he has an agenda here. He doesn't care who gets in, as long as he is one of the winners. Look at the suspicious votes GMarshal gets. There are countless lurkers and inactives who vote GMarshal without explaining why. And as you recall, GMarshal was the first one out the gate, and managed to obtain a sizable lead early on in the race, while everyone else was stuck at less than 4 votes. At one point in time, GMarshal's 11 votes outnumbered all the other candidates combined. This is not a coincidence. As I've said before, mafia candidates are never uncompetitive in a mayoral election. Having the 20% of the total voting power, mafia always tend to get an early lead and maintain it. Why is this? Because of town tendencies to bandwagon, it is very advantageous to get an early lead, as you are likely to attract votes of newer/inexperienced/uninterested townies who feel safe voting for a big name player who leads the vote count. GMarshal's early lead suggests mafia interference. But that's not all. Look at the thread activity during day 1. There are plenty of people who are unsure of electing DH or me on day 1, but almost all GMarshal's voters are unmoving. There was plenty of room to sway votes among the DH/Protact crowd, but GMarshal's voters were alarmingly loyal.
Look at how GMarshal has acted during day 1. He mentions lynching inactives, is strongly opposed to me, yet ignores my accusation that he is black. After that accusation, he plays a little act and calms down a little, and even begins to waver. Yet a few posts later he's back to attacking me full on. He shares much the same profile as Coagulation. When I have no chance of winning, he doesn't say much. But when I suddenly get 3 votes, he starts spamming the thread along with Coagulation to try to stop my election. That's not all. Look at how he handles the lynch. He knows that he is leading for mayor, yet he is very vague when discussing who he is going to lynch. Although he suggests a few inactive/lurking targets, he never settles on one. He makes a half assed analysis on Mr. Wiggles, in which he cannot draw any conclusions. He never really takes the initiative to point out scum. Compare this to his town play, where he isn't afraid to smack down his vote and express a solid opinion.
Now on to day 2. GMarshal has done nothing productive for the town. He claims he is a good analyst, but it doesn't show. All he does is throw doubt and confusion, and opposes the Coagulation lynch strongly. I've already pointed out why this is a pro-mafia move. His first 10 or so posts on day 2 are aimed at shooting down the lynch. How? He does it by attacking my character. It's not hard to see how my analysis makes sense and is infinitely superior to others people have put out. Yet GMarshal can't be bothered to be any more pro town than shooting down the lynch. Put yourselves in a townie's shoes for a moment. Suppose you didn't believe my analysis, and there are already 10 votes on the suspect. As a townie, and especially a town elected official, you have to work quickly. You need to pick out a strong mafia target and push him hard. You can't just sit around, fling mud at the current lynch, and not push the town in the right direction. All of a sudden, GMarshal posts a huge DH accusation. Pro-town, right? Wrong. If you read the accusation, it's hillariously half-assed. It includes mockery and caricatures to make DH seem ridiculous and anti-town. DH's play is generally abrasive, yes. But in this game, it is clearly not anti-town. Notice how since from day 1, he's been calling out suspects, and isn't afraid to look like the bad guy. DH is too aggressive and bold to be mafia. Compare this to his mafia play in XVI, and you'll notice a huge difference. DH is much more diplomatic and wishy washy about his reads when he is mafia. Anyway, the important point is how GMarshal reacts after this "analysis". He continues to mess around, posting aimlessly, and posts nothing of value to the town. He doesn't even bother pushing his lynch target. This should ring red bells in everyone's head. A townie would be pushing for their lynch with all conviction. Yet what as GMarshal been doing? He posts his analysis, and doesn't mention it until a bit later where he asks DH to respond. Now just think about it. If you're town and have an accusation to make, you don't just post it and then just ignore it. You use whatever method you have to force people to focus on your analysis and push your agenda. GMarshal does nothing of that sort. He isn't serious about lynching DH, he is just trying to appear like he's helping town.
It's actually been obvious that GMarshal was mafia ever since day 1. I was hoping to avoid pointing out GMarshal as scum in the thread, because if he knew that we caught him, that he would just pardon Coagulation and gain delay us for a day. But alas, he was too aggressive to ignore. Everyone switch your votes to GMarshal, otherwise he will pardon Coagulation and this lynch is going to be wasted.
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I forgot I was going to do this at the beginning of the day. >.<
Also sticking a vote on GMarshal, so he can be considered a "lynch target", and so if he inexplicably pardons we can carry on his lynch. I'm probably going to continue doing this each day, and if I die, suggest someone else does too. He needs at least one vote on him so he can be considered a "target" in case of random pardons.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On April 14 2011 13:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I forgot I was going to do this at the beginning of the day. >.<
Also sticking a vote on GMarshal, so he can be considered a "lynch target", and so if he inexplicably pardons we can carry on his lynch. I'm probably going to continue doing this each day, and if I die, suggest someone else does too. He needs at least one vote on him so he can be considered a "target" in case of random pardons.
Wait, what?
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuck
I miss a DAY and 25 pages fly by
brb reading up
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United States22154 Posts
On April 14 2011 13:04 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 13:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I forgot I was going to do this at the beginning of the day. >.<
Also sticking a vote on GMarshal, so he can be considered a "lynch target", and so if he inexplicably pardons we can carry on his lynch. I'm probably going to continue doing this each day, and if I die, suggest someone else does too. He needs at least one vote on him so he can be considered a "target" in case of random pardons. Wait, what?
I think it only works that way if I'm the vote leader wiggles. Either way if you guys want to put a vote on me to feel safe, then I am perfectly ok with that, but I will not be using the pardon, ever, for any reason.
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yeah that's kinda dumb wiggles. What does that accomplish besides leaving no voting trail?
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